DieselGate
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If you can find me Reid’s email address and phone number I’ll give you $45k if my own money.
New member: Looking to get in contact with FCA - have iron clad evidence of dealer fraud
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If you can find me Reid’s email address and phone number I’ll give you $45k if my own money.
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DieselGate
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I don’t think you guys understand the goal of my post...
Many of you seem to think I’m looking to sue FCA, but that’s not the case. I know the dealerships are separately owned and operated entities.
But if the dealerships are fraudulently getting FCA to pay for warranty repairs then I think that is something FCA would want to be made aware of.
The only person that could audit the dealerships books to determine how much money they “stole” from
FCA....is FCA themselves — that’s why I want them to get involved.
And I want to work WITH FCA to ensure that this dealership faces the most severe consequences — being forced to pay back FCA all of the money they received from fraudulent claims, etc; Being stripped of their franchise rights (no longer allowed to sell FCA vehicles, etc)
And maybe FCA could consider putting more safeguards in place that protect both FCA and the end consumer — and doesn’t make it so easy for dealerships to commit this type of fraud with little fear of any consequence.
Sure, 45 or 50k would be nice for ME — but that does nothing to help the single mom that brings her minivan in with a broken sensor, but gets handed a $5k bill for a new engine, or the elderly gentleman who purchases a brand new truck, then 3 months later is squeezed for another $2k because his repairs are “not covered under warranty”.
Do you guys feel me?
Many of you seem to think I’m looking to sue FCA, but that’s not the case. I know the dealerships are separately owned and operated entities.
But if the dealerships are fraudulently getting FCA to pay for warranty repairs then I think that is something FCA would want to be made aware of.
The only person that could audit the dealerships books to determine how much money they “stole” from
FCA....is FCA themselves — that’s why I want them to get involved.
And I want to work WITH FCA to ensure that this dealership faces the most severe consequences — being forced to pay back FCA all of the money they received from fraudulent claims, etc; Being stripped of their franchise rights (no longer allowed to sell FCA vehicles, etc)
And maybe FCA could consider putting more safeguards in place that protect both FCA and the end consumer — and doesn’t make it so easy for dealerships to commit this type of fraud with little fear of any consequence.
Sure, 45 or 50k would be nice for ME — but that does nothing to help the single mom that brings her minivan in with a broken sensor, but gets handed a $5k bill for a new engine, or the elderly gentleman who purchases a brand new truck, then 3 months later is squeezed for another $2k because his repairs are “not covered under warranty”.
Do you guys feel me?
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That's the ceo. 45k can be sent anytime. I'll send over my paypal
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Btw, not sure why yall are talking about reid being the ceo.. hes head of u.s sales. Go go the boss hoss
I'll stand corrected. This company is structured fairly odd. Manley is ceo of FCA. Reid is ceo of FCA Canada, head of us sales, and president. If that makes sense to anyone...
My advice is send an email to them if your so inclined. I dont see any phone numbers for the ceo. Best bet is send an email
We get your intention. I wouldn't even know where to start on this. Your AG, FCA corporate. I would put money on your AG. Why, possible criminal investigation. Who knows who might of been scammed this way. Even though we cant read all the emails. I for one dont understand how you caught them getting money FROM chrysler and you at the same time via email. If you want to enlarge the convos I could probably draw a conclusion.
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^^^^^Hmmmmm,,,,you do make a fair point. Most people will not go out of their way to take on an issue or subject like this, for the benefit of others. Most of us simply say, there is another dealership we need to stay away from, put it in gear and move on.
Let me look up what I have from my go around with them and I will send it to you. Good luck, but I do not think they will look into this like you believe they will or should.
Let me look up what I have from my go around with them and I will send it to you. Good luck, but I do not think they will look into this like you believe they will or should.
bellaireroad
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Sorry ...not feeling it... the whole thing smells funny... kinda like a big pile of BS
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Call the FBI...never mind. Call Trump. Lol
DieselGate
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What part sounds like BS? I’m not really seeking anything for myself, just trying to get FCA to realize the holes in their business model that allow dealers to basically do whatever they want, without having to fear any repercussions or intervention from FCA.
I’m just trying to protect other people going forward.
The part about there not actually being gasoline in my Diesel engine was already 100% proven — I’ve got a full admission of guilt in writing from them — someone from the dealership wouldn’t be offering me $45k if they weren’t guilty of something.
I’m not trying to BS anyone — you should take a look at my motivations here: I’m not financially motivated, my motivation is to: 1) Punish this dealership by putting them out of business 2) Ensure that it isn’t so easy for people to get scammed like this going forward.
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Well, we cant really see the whole part where you have any facts. Its blurred beyond being able to read. We've given you possible paths to take. Re-upload the parts that we cant see and we can guide you further. You keep saying FCA needs to get refunded back their money yet you never mention the people that may have been fleeced by this scam. If this is a corporate chain of dealerships, which most likely is, I'd go up that chain first and foremost. It could very well be this specific location .... or it could be all of them. Wont really know. Want to stir the **** pot? Contact your AG and let them know. Itll get to their corporate and Chrysler corporate real ******* fast.
Chrysler wont really care, its within their margin. They would of paid out anyhow because it was a warranty claim. They cant force a licensee to "hand over" the books to investigate. This is the job an your states AG. They have resources that can investigate in fraud.
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I understand dealerships are independently owned however the OP is alleging the dealer is scamming both the customer and FCA. Certainly FCA would want to know as this would violate their contract, as well as the law.
Another poster mentioned getting the state AG involved. Thinking more I believe that would be the best first step. I for one would like to see readable copies of the email traffic.
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Jerrybob
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Sounds like BS to me....I suggest you take the $45K immediately....if you are not interested in benefitting from the money personally....give it to a charity of your choice....you will be a hero. Find a new dealer to repair your truck....you can't save the world.
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You could always show up at the front door...
FCA US LLC
1000 Chrysler Dr, Auburn Hills, MI 48326
(248) 576-5741
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6XM2GvLcFy2GDeUh9
Is this dealership part of the Suburban Auto Group?
FCA US LLC
1000 Chrysler Dr, Auburn Hills, MI 48326
(248) 576-5741
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6XM2GvLcFy2GDeUh9
Is this dealership part of the Suburban Auto Group?
45k? Yeah, right! A fantasy
dhay13
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If FCA was concerned about shoddy dealers representing them they likely would have parted ways with my local one. Anyway, good luck and let us know how it turns out.
RamCares
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Hi DieselGate,
I am very troubled to hear your sentiments expressed here. Would you mind following up with us via private message at your earliest convenience to provide further details regarding your situation? We would greatly appreciate the opportunity to learn more to determine how to best assist you at this point.
Thank you in advance.
Mark
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It appears they attempted to defraud you out of $11,000. This is crime, theft by deception and and a felony given the amount. You should contact your local law enforcement agency to file a complaint. There will be no sweeping it under the rug if they find a crime has been committed.
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You'd be better off taking the 45k.
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Well...did you contact @RamCares like they requested and fill them in? Would like to know where this goes.
