4th gen ram hemi avoid?

OCDTech said:

Would they be able to tell if you installed one and took it off for work, wouldn't think it would leave a footprint.

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gofish101 said:

I don't believe they would know but I also take it there for oil changes and sometimes just drop by to ask a question. I like the idea of it being a factory thing like other manufacturers have.

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gofish101 said:

I don't believe they would know but I also take it there for oil changes and sometimes just drop by to ask a question. I like the idea of it being a factory thing like other manufacturers have.

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James OBrien said:

The best V-8 motor I thought I had owned previously was the Chevy 5.7 350 vortec in my 98 suburban. Smooth, easy to work on, reliable, and lasted well over 200k (still going after I sold it to my brother in law). The V8 Hemi is better in my opinion. Great horsepower and torque, smooth, great power curve, really good mileage/fuel efficiency for a big motor and when paired with the ZF8 tranny I really don't think there's a better combo especially since you can add 100 HP and still have a reliable engine. Yes, it has an Achilles heel with the single cam and relatively older pushrod design but man, it really is a great motor. If you get too worried about the cam/lifters, it's actually a VERY easy motor to work on also and over a weekend you can put in higher quality parts to make it more reliable. I have a ton of friends who have dealt with crappy Chevy/GM and Ford motors with (subjective opinion here) more key problems than the hemis. On the downside the Hemi is more expensive to buy parts for due to quantities, but heck, I still love the motor.

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indept said:

I wouldn't go as far as to call it VERY easy. The fact that you need to pull both heads adds a lot of work to replacing the cam / lifters for a pushrod engine.

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Floyd1979 said:

My 2009 hemi crewcab Rambox went till around 325,000 . The MDS went out so while in there they replaced the cam and lifters under warranty

sold the truck with 422,150
Original power train

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Floyd1979 said:

My 2009 hemi crewcab Rambox went till around 325,000 . The MDS went out so while in there they replaced the cam and lifters under warranty

sold the truck with 422,150
Original power train

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jmd4100 said:

The issue is you only hear posts about lifter failures because people only post things about lifter failures. No one wakes up in the morning and starts a post about how their truck doesnt have lifter failure. If you think about how many rams leave the assy line and compare that number to cam/lifter failures, it's a fraction smaller than anything. Yes it does happen but the likelihood of it occurring to your truck is minimal. I have an 07 with mds it has 138k miles and it goes in and out of 4 cylinders like it did when it was new and I have never had a failure. They're great engines. If you can buy one with about 60-70k miles and it doesnt tick, it most likely wont. The tick usually starts when it's relatively new


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OCDTech said:

I have come to realize, ( very paranoid as are you ) that the more research you do the more "bugs" you will find. I once researched manual tranny oil on the Subaru Forester forum for so long until i decided whatever is in my 100,000 mile tranny now, will just be fine forever.

Few topics i tend to avoid: oil filter, mpg, trans oil, mds. Now i say that with a little humor, i do of course look into those sometimes, but what i mean is you will run yourself into the ground to make a decision sometimes. So much back and forth, thats BS, no way i will get that mileage, used that super duper top teir oil, my motor blew up the next day, kind of talk.

In the end, make the best decision you can with some research and in the end it boils down to the odds of it happening to you. All vehicle manufacturers have turds, some more than others. One big one with engine oil i don't go by is the Oil change monitor, i like to change between 5 and 7K miles, Not saying there isnt oils that can't go that long, i just accept the money it costs to do it earlier. Why go up right to the line of when the oil loses its protection, just cut it a little sooner and i don't have to worry as much.

Like others have said, i see more easily as many rams in my town now than anything else. Which is a lot more than i used to, there climbing the ladder in popularity for a reason, if there were that many failures, you would probably hear a lot more about it than you do.

Thing about it is, by the time we realize how amazing some vehicles are, ( how long they last almost problem free) its too late, they all have a ton of miles on them.

If we knew how good the mid 80s Toyota 4x4 were most of us would have bought one of those,like them or not i would have. Or many years of the Chevys 90s to the 20010 or so, almost indestructible.

So, i've trained myself, not to stress so much, do the research you can, talk to others on here and i'm sure you will make a decision your eventually happy with.

PS, the Ram was the first vehicle i've ever bought purely on impulse, I did, NO research on it.

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huntergreen said:

Anengineer, if it helps, according to some on various forums, the lifter failure issue has been corrected for model year 2016 and up. No idea if this is true or not.

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Floyd1979 said:

My 2009 hemi crewcab Rambox went till around 325,000 . The MDS went out so while in there they replaced the cam and lifters under warranty

sold the truck with 422,150
Original power train

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AnEngineer said:

It takes me forever to find a newer vehicle. Every one I have owned I have been plagued by paranoia about there being a fatal flaw with the motor. When I bought my 3rd gen I scoured the internet for posts about the valve springs breaking on the early hemis and dropping the valve into the cylinder which mine has never done for the 5 years I have owned it. I'm just trying to get a feel for the risk or which particular years seemed to have a higher failure rate. It seems like 2011 was the worst year for some reason. I used to work in a repair shop so I am pretty mechanically inclined and can find problems on used vehicles, I'm just worried about something developing after I put 20k miles on it.

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OCDTech said:

I have come to realize, ( very paranoid as are you ) that the more research you do the more "bugs" you will find. I once researched manual tranny oil on the Subaru Forester forum for so long until i decided whatever is in my 100,000 mile tranny now, will just be fine forever.

Few topics i tend to avoid: oil filter, mpg, trans oil, mds. Now i say that with a little humor, i do of course look into those sometimes, but what i mean is you will run yourself into the ground to make a decision sometimes. So much back and forth, thats BS, no way i will get that mileage, used that super duper top teir oil, my motor blew up the next day, kind of talk.

In the end, make the best decision you can with some research and in the end it boils down to the odds of it happening to you. All vehicle manufacturers have turds, some more than others. One big one with engine oil i don't go by is the Oil change monitor, i like to change between 5 and 7K miles, Not saying there isnt oils that can't go that long, i just accept the money it costs to do it earlier. Why go up right to the line of when the oil loses its protection, just cut it a little sooner and i don't have to worry as much.

Like others have said, i see more easily as many rams in my town now than anything else. Which is a lot more than i used to, there climbing the ladder in popularity for a reason, if there were that many failures, you would probably hear a lot more about it than you do.

Thing about it is, by the time we realize how amazing some vehicles are, ( how long they last almost problem free) its too late, they all have a ton of miles on them.

If we knew how good the mid 80s Toyota 4x4 were most of us would have bought one of those,like them or not i would have. Or many years of the Chevys 90s to the 20010 or so, almost indestructible.

So, i've trained myself, not to stress so much, do the research you can, talk to others on here and i'm sure you will make a decision your eventually happy with.

PS, the Ram was the first vehicle i've ever bought purely on impulse, I did, NO research on it.

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