Which Bilstein 5100 Setting?

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manogmin

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I thought I read that that’s kind of misleading and more of a placebo to say it rides stiffer at any given setting........because once the weight of the truck is on the strut/spring that the “stiffness” remains constant regardless of 2.1 or 2.8 since the factory springs are linear?

That was a comment as to when I had the lower spring perch upside down. Linear or not, (which they appear to be) when I compressed the springs by the extra 3 inches or so by having that upside down, the ride was tremendously rougher. Every bump hole and wave in the asphalt was exaggerated. Potential energy in a spring builds with compression. More compressed = more need for decompression. Now, between the 2.1 and 2.8 settings I would have to believe the difference in ride would be negligible or non existent all together.


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I'm pretty sure this is one of those situations where both sides of the argument are correct because there are 2 different things going on.

Strictly talking preload, the spring is linear and since the truck's weight still compresses the spring beyond the preload, the total load on the spring is the same. When the truck is parked all you've changed is how much of the shock body extends out from under the bottom spring seat - NOT how much weight is on the spring itself. So nothing has changed there.

But what has changed is the minimum weight to engage the spring. Our trucks have around 9 inches of suspension travel and the standard ride height is about in the middle of that so if you lift about 2.8 inches you have less than 2 inches of additional down travel available, and when you run out of down travel the amount of weight needed to engage the front suspension is increased by whatever the preload weight is.
So if you imagine that the stock preload is 50 lbs and you have 4.5 inches of down-travel, you'll always have that smooth gradient of pressure when one tire dips into a pothole or rolls off the far side of a speed bump and when a tire does fully unload it only takes a 50 lb weight to bring the spring back into the picture, not much.
Now if you preload the spring to 300 lbs by shortening the minimum distance between the top and bottom spring seats & you only have 1.7 inches of down-travel available you will more frequently reach the top of your suspension travel and then when the suspension comes back into engagement it takes 300 lbs for the spring to go from "unloaded" to loaded - that's a much bigger gradient you're going to feel.

yeah I just know from experience with 5100s (I’ve run them anywhere from 2.8 and currently I’m at .7 with a 6” lift) and it doesn’t go from Cadillac smooth to “so stiff he’s flying to the moon” just by going from 2.1 to 2.8. I don’t think you’re going to know the difference with casual driving.

And to be honest I’ve never liked 5100s at any setting....I’ve always felt they rode over things like potholes and even bridge expansion gaps poorly. Would hate to see how they handled any serious off-roading lol.

I personally wish I could throw a nice set of custom length Kings on my truck but I don’t go offroad enough to justify them.
 

manogmin

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yeah I just know from experience with 5100s (I’ve run them anywhere from 2.8 and currently I’m at .7 with a 6” lift) and it doesn’t go from Cadillac smooth to “so stiff he’s flying to the moon” just by going from 2.1 to 2.8. I don’t think you’re going to know the difference with casual driving.

And to be honest I’ve never liked 5100s at any setting....I’ve always felt they rode over things like potholes and even bridge expansion gaps poorly. Would hate to see how they handled any serious off-roading lol.

I personally wish I could throw a nice set of custom length Kings on my truck but I don’t go offroad enough to justify them.

If you’re interested, see my clarification right above your previous comment.


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