New rear control arms from Clayton Offroad

Elevated 2013 · Jul 1, 2020

ram1500rsm said:
2020-03-15_06-17-09 by RAM RSM, on Flickr

Which of these rear control arms have you actually driven with for a period of time? I’m trying to figure out whether to go with Core, Patriot, or Clayton rear control arms for my lifted 1500. Apparently Rough Country keeps the stock rear control arms for their lifts.

ram1500rsm · Jul 1, 2020

Elevated 2013 said:
Which of these rear control arms have you actually driven with for a period of time? I’m trying to figure out whether to go with Core, Patriot, or Clayton rear control arms for my lifted 1500. Apparently Rough Country keeps the stock rear control arms for their lifts.

Stockers for almost 2 years and my truck had already around 50k miles when in bought it. Mevotech Supreme which are basically stock replacements for a few months, same with Freedom Offroad stock lenght and now the Claytons set at stock length. You won't go wrong with either choice main difference will be in the bushings and how beefy the arms are if you need such a things so it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Now that i've been driving with bushings that can flex side to side is that i can appreciate having them as the suspension flexes as it should when it needs and if i need to put the full weight of the truck in the lower control arms i have piece of mind the massive Claytons will take it without a sweat.

Most of the aftermaket like Core, Clayton and the like are built tough so you can have confidence you're paying more for beefier arms and better than stock bushings.
If you have a truck setup for the street Freedom will do well,
If you're into offroad Core and Clayton have better bushings for that mission. Core uses a JJ in one side and some sort of flexy poly bushing on the other, though i'd recommend if you go with Core to get JJ on both sides for the ultimate in strength.

Clayton have Giiro bushings on both sides, or JJ in one side and Giiro in the other and if you ask i'd guess they can put JJ's on both sides. I went with Clayton because i wanted the benefits from their Giiro bushings. i'm more into overlanding so i wanted longevity and maintenace free like the stockers so things like mud, dirt,snow won't contaminate the assembly. Eventually the bushings need to be replaced but i had 50k miles of trouble free miles in my Jeep equipped with Synergy arms with DDB's and before i sold it i was a happy camper , i'm expecting the same from this Giiro bushings, big plus since my rear is loaded with 500lbs at all times and when i go to the desert and beat the crap out of the truck i like the confidence in torquing down rear control arms bolts at the 200lbs factory specs.

If you go with JJ's they have proven to flex well, and they can withstand a lot of offroad abuse. Cool thing about JJ's is that they can be rebuilt/serviced when needed, sometimes than can be a little often depending on the conditions they have live in so greasing those zerks is really important for longevity.

With Giiro bushings you have to press a new one when needed. Both are cheap, Giiros or DDB's have been around for less time but they seem to be proven themselves in the overlanding community again because of their design: free pivoting, self centering, self lubricating, zero maintnenace. etc installing a set couldn't be easier as you don't have to worry much about the angle of the head, the bushing doesn't get smushed if you torque it to King Kong specs as they're made to take the torque (In Clayton's case they're made for the Jeep JT which borrowed their control arms from our 4th gen truck so Clayton designed the bushing counting on those high torque specs in mind, JT is 190ft/lbs, RAM is 200ft/lbs).

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/news/overland-plus-days-compromise-are-over

Again, good luck with whatever you choose. i don't think you can go wrong with either choice. Anything is better than stock, but stockers are not a bad option if you just need a truck to do work as the factory intended for example. If you're looking into offroad, overlanding, 1/4 mile racing, or just want the look of beefier arms the aftermarket has specific choices to meet those demands.

Have fun.

Ram7081 · Jul 5, 2020

ram1500rsm said:
Stockers for almost 2 years and my truck had already around 50k miles when in bought it. Mevotech Supreme which are basically stock replacements for a few months, same with Freedom Offroad stock lenght and now the Claytons set at stock length. You won't go wrong with either choice main difference will be in the bushings and how beefy the arms are if you need such a things so it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Now that i've been driving with bushings that can flex side to side is that i can appreciate having them as the suspension flexes as it should when it needs and if i need to put the full weight of the truck in the lower control arms i have piece of mind the massive Claytons will take it without a sweat.

Most of the aftermaket like Core, Clayton and the like are built tough so you can have confidence you're paying more for beefier arms and better than stock bushings.
If you have a truck setup for the street Freedom will do well,
If you're into offroad Core and Clayton have better bushings for that mission. Core uses a JJ in one side and some sort of flexy poly bushing on the other, though i'd recommend if you go with Core to get JJ on both sides for the ultimate in strength.

Clayton have Giiro bushings on both sides, or JJ in one side and Giiro in the other and if you ask i'd guess they can put JJ's on both sides. I went with Clayton because i wanted the benefits from their Giiro bushings. i'm more into overlanding so i wanted longevity and maintenace free like the stockers so things like mud, dirt,snow won't contaminate the assembly. Eventually the bushings need to be replaced but i had 50k miles of trouble free miles in my Jeep equipped with Synergy arms with DDB's and before i sold it i was a happy camper , i'm expecting the same from this Giiro bushings, big plus since my rear is loaded with 500lbs at all times and when i go to the desert and beat the crap out of the truck i like the confidence in torquing down rear control arms bolts at the 200lbs factory specs.

If you go with JJ's they have proven to flex well, and they can withstand a lot of offroad abuse. Cool thing about JJ's is that they can be rebuilt/serviced when needed, sometimes than can be a little often depending on the conditions they have live in so greasing those zerks is really important for longevity.

With Giiro bushings you have to press a new one when needed. Both are cheap, Giiros or DDB's have been around for less time but they seem to be proven themselves in the overlanding community again because of their design: free pivoting, self centering, self lubricating, zero maintnenace. etc installing a set couldn't be easier as you don't have to worry much about the angle of the head, the bushing doesn't get smushed if you torque it to King Kong specs as they're made to take the torque (In Clayton's case they're made for the Jeep JT which borrowed their control arms from our 4th gen truck so Clayton designed the bushing counting on those high torque specs in mind, JT is 190ft/lbs, RAM is 200ft/lbs).

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/news/overland-plus-days-compromise-are-over

Again, good luck with whatever you choose. i don't think you can go wrong with either choice. Anything is better than stock, but stockers are not a bad option if you just need a truck to do work as the factory intended for example. If you're looking into offroad, overlanding, 1/4 mile racing, or just want the look of beefier arms the aftermarket has specific choices to meet those demands.

Have fun.

You're a book of knowledge! Thank you.
I read the whole post. Seeing all the options now available. Is Clayton still your choice to buy?

ram1500rsm · Jul 5, 2020

Ram7081 said:
You're a book of knowledge! Thank you.
I read the whole post. Seeing all the options now available. Is Clayton still your choice to buy?

Yes, they're my favorite rear arms and favorite coil springs. Viva the 2020 Jeep JT's

Ram7081 · Jul 11, 2020

ram1500rsm said:
Yes, they're my favorite rear arms and favorite coil springs. Viva the 2020 Jeep JT's

I ordered them. UPS has them in route

Elevated 2013 · Jul 11, 2020

I got the Clayton Overland upper and lower set and I can definitely feel the difference when I hit the gas. It’s definitely more solid and no more wheel hop either. I can feel a control difference and they’re double the size of the stock arms. It was a great purchase for sure.

ripping r · Jul 11, 2020

where are you guys ordering these from. when i go to there sit. it only list jeeps no rams?

Elevated 2013 · Jul 11, 2020

ripping r said:
where are you guys ordering these from. when i go to there sit. it only list jeeps no rams?

Use these from the Clayton website:

I went with the COR-1710102 set

ram1500rsm · Jul 12, 2020

ripping r said:
where are you guys ordering these from. when i go to there sit. it only list jeeps no rams?

That's correct. They're not RAM specifics per se. We're benefiting from the 2020 Jeep Gladiator aftermarket since Jeep borrowed the rear control arms and rear panhard from our 4th gen RAM's and fitted the Gladiators with those so Clayton and other big names in the Jeep aftermarket have taken the stock arms design and have made awesome more sturdier replacements. Win win for the 4th gen RAM 1500 community. If the 5th gen uses the same rear arms we do, then they can also join the party

ripping r · Jul 12, 2020

ram1500rsm said:
That's correct. They're not RAM specifics per se. We're benefiting from the 2020 Jeep Gladiator aftermarket since Jeep borrowed the rear control arms and rear panhard from our 4th gen RAM's and fitted the Gladiators with those so Clayton and other big names in the Jeep aftermarket have taken the stock arms design and have made awesome more sturdier replacements. Win win for the 4th gen RAM 1500 community. If the 5th gen uses the same rear arms we do, then they can also join the party

I get it now. probleby not a good idea for me than. since i have a 2500. I have been looking at core.

ram1500rsm · Jul 12, 2020

ripping r said:
I get it now. probleby not a good idea for me than. since i have a 2500. I have been looking at core.

Core is another big name in the Jeep aftermarket. You'll very happy with them.

69GWC · Jul 12, 2020

Elevated 2013 said:
I tow a 3000 lb boat off and on and I have a bunch of sway in the rear of the truck when I tow it. I’ve replaced the rear shocks, springs, and added a Hellwig 7883 sway bar and adjustable links and it still seats more than I think it should. So I’m thinking of doing the arms next.

I had this problem and I replaced my control arms with Core arms and its night and day better towing now.
My truck was so bad I was thinking of selling it but not now, Imo the rubber bushing in the stock a control arms are junk..lol

Ram7081 · Jul 14, 2020

Elevated 2013 said:
I got the Clayton Overland upper and lower set and I can definitely feel the difference when I hit the gas. It’s definitely more solid and no more wheel hop either. I can feel a control difference and they’re double the size of the stock arms. It was a great purchase for sure.

I just got the lowers, on a budget. But, I hope the wheel hop goes away.

Ram7081 · Jul 14, 2020

Claytons in the house!
Question? Does the rear get jacked off the ground, or not needed?

Ram7081 · Jul 14, 2020

ripping r said:
where are you guys ordering these from. when i go to there sit. it only list jeeps no rams?

$290 shipped if you are a FR or Military. Item #COR-1710102

Elevated 2013 · Jul 14, 2020

Ram7081 said:
Claytons in the house!
Question? Does the rear get jacked off the ground, or not needed?

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Leave the truck on the ground. Or at least make sure you don’t tighten them until they are. It was easy enough to do on the ground though.

Ram7081 · Jul 14, 2020

Elevated 2013 said:
Leave the truck on the ground. Or at least make sure you don’t tighten them until they are. It was easy enough to do on the ground though.

Thank you Sir!
Torque specs are 200lbs?

Elevated 2013 · Jul 14, 2020

You’re welcome. I went with 190 because that’s what they’re made for on the Jeeps that they were designed for. 10 foot lbs isn’t going to hurt them.

Ram7081 · Jul 14, 2020

Elevated 2013 said:
You’re welcome. I went with 190 because that’s what they’re made for on the Jeeps that they were designed for. 10 foot lbs isn’t going to hurt them.

Perfect! Thanks again.

ram1500rsm · Jul 16, 2020

Ram7081 said:
Claytons in the house!
Question? Does the rear get jacked off the ground, or not needed?

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leave the truck on the ground. The axel might shift a bit once you take the factory arm off. You will know because one of the bolts won't line up with the hole in the arm. Super easy to fix, jack from your diff pinion just a tad and wiggle the bolt. You may need to do it couple of times until the hole lines up.
for example:

New rear control arms from Clayton Offroad

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