Synthetic Oil

corneileous · Sep 13, 2020

Travis8352 said:
I am at 42,000 nothing but 5w20. Bought at 7k had free dealer oil at 12k which i believe was servicepro conventional 5w20 they used a service pro filter. At 18k i switched to 5w20 pennzoil platinum with a wix xp and now later on today will be doing another change on pennzoil platinum this time 6 of the quarts the jug says gf6 and api sp. not sure id pennzoil changed formula or not to meet the new specs. At 48k i plan to run schaeffers 5w20 and beyond that idk if i will change my oil choice or not. Debating mobil 1 fs 0w40. Its on the thin side of 0w40 but also thought of castrol 0w30 made in belgium but havnt seen any voas on that oil. May just stick to schaeffers 5w20 as well

Who knows, maybe it’s your relatively low-mile oil change interval being around 5,000 to 6,000 miles. The oil analysis below is the only one I’ve done so far and even though the interval was just under 6,000 miles, the oil and filter was only used for about 5 months until I changed it again. I really wish I woulda done a UOA back in October almost a year ago but I forgot. That woulda been a good one to share because that interval went over 7600 miles/9 months when I changed it last year.

The oil sample I took on this oil change I just did Friday will be interesting, tho. It may have only had little over 6,000 miles on it but the oil was in there for around 11 months.

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Travis8352 · Sep 13, 2020

Burla said:
The beauty of lubegard biotech at 6 bucks per 10 ouncer, is that you don't even need to know moly level or even have a moly level, plus it is thinner then 20 weight oil a little, so you can easily add it to any 30 weight oil. Plus you add sticky esters, have you seen the lubegard threads there are two main ones? Much easier to read then this thread, lmao.

it is very likely similar to 5w30 castrol, but check bobs uoa threads, there are 100's might have 0w30.

You seam to know, but 0 winter rated oils with dexos amd merc and posrche specs are best effort oils, made much better then 5w30 in most cases, as far as base oils.

Yes i have read about lubegard biotech. I Have been looking at alot of msds on varius oils lately and it seems only 0w30 and 0w40 castrol contains pao. All other grades seem to be heavy parrafinic distilates which unless im ******** is group 3 correct? Mobil 1 fs 0w40 seems like a great oil that can be bought cheap at walmart. Seems to be more like a 0w30 or 5w30 than a 0w40 and a starting tbn of 12.6 seems like a long life oil and ive seen great uoas on it. Only thing i cant find is pour point but i suspect being mobil 1 its between -40 and -50 celcius. Msds shows base oils are pao/gtl. At 22 bucks a 5qt jug seems like a great choice with plenty of anti wear additives and moly around 90ppm

Burla · Sep 13, 2020

Redline and Ravenol are known pao base oils, are you saying castrol is as well? German Castrol green color has been known to be pao as well, but it is rare to find.

Travis8352 · Sep 13, 2020

Burla said:
Redline and Ravenol are known pao base oils, are you saying castrol is as well? German Castrol green color has been known to be pao as well, but it is rare to find.

The 0w30 euro castrol i believe said 25-50% pao on the msds and 0w40 castrol euro was i belive 20-30% but also lists petroleum distilates in the msds so i belive its group3/4 and maybe some 5??? Not sure about group 5. All other castrol edge and the 20k ep seems to be entirely group 3 along with some gtl group 3+ but not much i dont think. I have never looked into ravenol. I know redline is pao/ester. I may go 0w30 redline. Seems like a perfect oil for the hemi in the cold northern states -76 pour point only other oil i have found with a low pour point like that is 0w30 edge euro at -76 as well

U&A · Sep 15, 2020

5W30 showed up for the 6.4.

Excited to be the Guinea pig on this one as I have lots of faith in it.

If for some reason it doesn’t like it (can not fathom why it wouldn’t) I have 5W40 on standby

Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

Burla · Sep 19, 2020

This date 1947, two years after wwII, the US Air Force was born. Prior to that they had a similar relationship to the Army as the Marines has with the Navy, of course the later still exists to this day. In just a few years it is hard to believe one country can literally own the skis anytime they want.

I had wanted to join the AF when I enlisted, but sadly the Army was offering double the funds for college so I ended up there. There is some regret there on my part. Anyhow, Happy B-Day US Air Force, without any doubt the one branch of our military that has no equal. The one branch of our military who's efforts makes our boys on the ground and in the boats much more safe. It's no mistake we haven't had a country attack us since 9/11, after seeing shock and awe no country wants the US Air Force in their borders!!

Iran was scared ****less when Trump took out their general as well with a nice little drone. No small reason why they haven't done a damn thing in the water at the edge of their border.

Travis8352 · Sep 19, 2020

As i am trying to expand my knowledge i am wondering if anyone has installed a high flow melling oil pump on thesw trucks?

Burla · Sep 19, 2020

I'd ask that in the forum as I know ram forum members have, most don't bother with this thread anymore.

Murphy Slaw · Sep 20, 2020

I do...

JOE GUTIERREZ · Sep 21, 2020

I've always used Mobil One in my vehicles. This is my first Hemi and in also leaning towards RP. Now what about Plugs?

Burla · Sep 21, 2020

JOE GUTIERREZ said:
I've always used Mobil One in my vehicles. This is my first Hemi and in also leaning towards RP. Now what about Plugs?

Unless you upgrade coils you really need NGK Spark Plugs – 5.7L Engine LZFR5C–11 (Gap 0.043 in [1.1 mm]), I'd just go with mopar if I was you. 70 bucks amazon for set 16.

Burla · Sep 21, 2020

Booo castrol 0w40 with no moly, I'm sure the 7ppm was just left over. No way I'm running that in the 6.4, or any hemi.

Burla · Sep 23, 2020

chevy has 5 engines for their 1500, and one is a 33 mpg diesel. And that is paired with a 10 speed. real world tests says they are lying, no surprise there. I know Allison has a 10 speed, but chevy aint using that? anyone know?

tidefan1967 · Sep 23, 2020

Burla said:
chevy has 5 engines for their 1500, and one is a 33 mpg diesel. And that is paired with a 10 speed. real world tests says they are lying, no surprise there. I know Allison has a 10 speed, but chevy aint using that? anyone know?

If I had to guess I would say that since the Allison transmission is a "heavy Duty" transmission it probably weighs more and eats up more horsepower/torque than the lighter duty stuff(probably is geared more toward real work and not fuel economy) and probably costs a hell of a lot more too which are all or mostly all big no no's in our ever present climate change, the sky is falling world.

U&A · Sep 23, 2020

Burla said:
chevy has 5 engines for their 1500, and one is a 33 mpg diesel. And that is paired with a 10 speed. real world tests says they are lying, no surprise there. I know Allison has a 10 speed, but chevy aint using that? anyone know?

Ford and chevy worked together on engineering the ford 10 speed so my guess is the chevy 10 speed is darn near the same as fords.

Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

Hemi395 · Sep 23, 2020

It's not really an Allison either. They used the Allison name as a marketing ploy. I forget how they got away with that but it was some technicality that allows them to use the Allison name....

tidefan1967 · Sep 23, 2020

When I test drove that Explorer a couple weeks ago it had Ford/GM's new 10spd auto in it. I wasn't particularly impressed by it on the test drive so hopefully it just needed to break in/be driven some although there have been problems with it on the F150 forums. The Grand Cherokee 3.6/8spd was noticeable smoother which is why I bought it over the Explorer not to mention a lot cheaper.

Hemi395 · Sep 23, 2020

Here it is

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/12/2020-silverado-hds-allison-transmission-isnt-really-an-allison/

tjfdesmo · Sep 23, 2020

At least they now admit the current transmission is label engineered. The prior Allison 1000 came from an Allison plant, but was a spec-built GM project that had zero other applications when it came out. I had an '04 that had one and lemon-lawed it because they couldn't make it work right. I was told by a DDA(Detroit Diesel-Allison)repair center that it was not considered a "real Allison", and I had a customer who spent his entire career in GM service who told me that was true. That guy was die-hard GM all the way, but, to his credit, he was also 100% honest, and he told me many stories of the background behind many GM blunders, such as the 350 junk diesels, and the 6.2 and 6.5 Detroit Diesels that were notorious crank snappers. Those Detroits are another example of a GM label engineering exercise. Detroit Diesel engineers warned GM that the cheap-ass cranks they insisted on to meet cost targets would not hold up.

Read up on that 3.0 GM diesel. All aluminum, full of timing chains, a belt-driven oil pump, and all the red-hot emissions stuff is under the hood with the turbocharger. NO THANKS!

Hemi395 · Sep 23, 2020

tjfdesmo said:
At least they now admit the current transmission is label engineered. The prior Allison 1000 came from an Allison plant, but was a spec-built GM project that had zero other applications when it came out. I had an '04 that had one and lemon-lawed it because they couldn't make it work right. I was told by a DDA(Detroit Diesel-Allison)repair center that it was not considered a "real Allison", and I had a customer who spent his entire career in GM service who told me that was true. That guy was die-hard GM all the way, but, to his credit, he was also 100% honest, and he told me many stories of the background behind many GM blunders, such as the 350 junk diesels, and the 6.2 and 6.5 Detroit Diesels that were notorious crank snappers. Those Detroits are another example of a GM label engineering exercise. Detroit Diesel engineers warned GM that the cheap-ass cranks they insisted on to meet cost targets would not hold up.

Read up on that 3.0 GM diesel. All aluminum, full of timing chains, a belt-driven oil pump, and all the red-hot emissions stuff is under the hood with the turbocharger. NO THANKS!

Are you talking about the 350 diesels from the 70s and 80s that they put in cars? I’ve read a bunch about those and how GM basically took a SBC, threw diesel at it, and hoped for the best

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