Toyota pickups do last longer

20 years , 400,000
My 2009 Dodge Ram Crewcab Rambox Lonestar hemi
Sold it in December
442,150 miles on original power train
9 years not , 20

Elkman said:

Check out this post of a person with a 2000 Tundra with 400,000 miles on the odometer. To be considered worthy of being in the high mileage club with a Toyota one needs to have driven it for at least 300,000 miles.

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Get you one and join the Toyot forum. LOL Best of luck.

Prior to my Ram, I had a Ridgeline. Lots of insecure people liked to **** on it, that it wasn't a "man's" truck, or that it wasn't really a truck at all. While I was at a local garage getting an inspection sticker, I saw an older gen1 Ridgeline that had seen better days cosmetically. The rims has rust on the open edges and the clearcoat was shot. But it turns out he had just shy of 700,000 miles on it! That truck rode better than any other pickup with similar payload capacity.

If it was better at towing my boat, I'd still have it, as it was great the other 99% of the time. Next boat will be bigger and beyond normal towing limits, and at that time I might go back to one. Not everyone tows or hauls heavy loads all the time, yet some folks feel their manhood is threatened if they drive anything that cannot tow over 8,000lbs, regardless of whether or not they need it.

If you're in the market for a small truck, I think it makes sense to look Toyota. I'm not sold on the Tundra, especially with the V8's being discontinued.

Ohio5pt7 said:

There is a local yota dealer bought one back from original owner with 750k. Last longer sure (so does plastic ****). But just as most women prefer a real D I'll stick with a real truck.

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Love your post. Go Ram.

Jim Bowker said:

Prior to my Ram, I had a Ridgeline. Lots of insecure people liked to **** on it, that it wasn't a "man's" truck, or that it wasn't really a truck at all. While I was at a local garage getting an inspection sticker, I saw an older gen1 Ridgeline that had seen better days cosmetically. The rims has rust on the open edges and the clearcoat was shot. But it turns out he had just shy of 700,000 miles on it! That truck rode better than any other pickup with similar payload capacity.

If it was better at towing my boat, I'd still have it, as it was great the other 99% of the time. Next boat will be bigger and beyond normal towing limits, and at that time I might go back to one. Not everyone tows or hauls heavy loads all the time, yet some folks feel their manhood is threatened if they drive anything that cannot tow over 8,000lbs, regardless of whether or not they need it.

If you're in the market for a small truck, I think it makes sense to look Toyota. I'm not sold on the Tundra, especially with the V8's being discontinued.

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Why are you driving a Ram if you like them so much??

There was a guy near me that had an old GMC that had 1 million miles on it. So who lasts longer again? Toyota fake news.

The "legend" has a simple story. In the 1980s most truck makers were making terrible trucks, in light of a long-time economic downturn and other issues that were difficult to overcome. Toyota also was making mediocre trucks. BUT, they made trucks with no features on them and used old designs that were overly simple and plain. Basically, there was nothing on those little trucks to break. So, they appeared to last longer. But the quality was really not that great, as I saw many of them with dashes that ripped up before 10 years, and brakes that would barely get 30K out of them. The owners were determined though and really worked hard to keep these trucks up to shape, replacing parts as quickly as they broke.

Today the story is pretty boring. Nobody builds a bad truck or car for the most part. Expect Telsa which has a reputation of poor build quality. And, the same thing here as on the old Toyotas, there's nothing on a Telsa to break, so it'll be good for a long time (as could be said for any electric vehicle.)

Quality of all manufacturers has skyrocketed. But then again, we have so many features on our trucks these days, they are all destined to have something go wonky. Still far better than ever before. But to say "my truck is more reliable than yours" is so wrong, it's no longer funny. It's just ignorance.

I have a 2003 Taco. I needed the bigger tow capacity and just something more modern so bought my Ram, but can't bring myself to sell the Taco. They are so easy to mod and work on, plus fairly bulletproof and when Aliens hit Earth with an EMP, my Taco should still run.....

Lucy Girl said:

Why are you driving a Ram if you like them so much??

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First sentence of second paragraph:
"If it was better at towing my boat.."

dhay13 said:

So I had heard that Toyota bought the rights from GM for their old 5.7 and that is what is in the current Tundras? True? I dunno so I'm asking. My step-son just got a 2020 Tundra. Haven't heard any complaints yet but he has only had it about 2 months.

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No, absolutely not. One has push rods, one has overhead cams.

Bought a new 02 Tundra. Drove it 125K and did one front brake job. Bought an 06 Tundra in O8 and had a similar experience. Bought a 13 Ram and replaced struts, shocks, electric steering module and it had front fender rust through before 75k but out of warranty. FCA fixed the 8 speed under warranty and repaired both exhaust manifolds. Still like the at Ram, but it has been a costly devil.

Jim Bowker said:

First sentence of second paragraph:
"If it was better at towing my boat.."

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Good response. I guess I missed that line.

Forgot to add that the water pump crapped out on my 13 prior to 75k but out of warranty.

I'll try to SQUEZZE a few more milrs out of my old 11 Big Horn. With 15K I may have a couple left.

On TOYS they're ok for driving and hauling lite loads but nothin more than a motorcycle IMO. And if you ever buy oine do NOT buy that worthless 2.7 I4 the std tacomas come with., that POS wont even get out of it's own way

Personally I have my Ram up for sale so I can get a Tundra. I have a 2002 Ram 1500 5.9 Magnum with 160K on it, and parked next to it is a 2004 4Runner with 190,000 miles on it. I have owned the 4Runner for 8 years, and I've had to replace one CV axle (torn boot) and the intermediate steering shaft. Neither issue rendered the vehicle inoperable. I have the long term maintenance history on this car and it's a lot of oil changes, a few transmission fluid changes, and one front hub (bearing). It started life as a rental car, so I can't imagine its first 30,000 miles were gentle. I have owned the Ram since March and have performed more than 35 repairs on it. It still leaks oil and transmission fluid because I haven't been able to address all the leaks. I had a 1996 Suburban with a 350 that went 260,000 miles with no repairs over $750. The 4Runner has never leaked a drop of anything. If I owned the Ram as a work truck I depended on, I would trade it to a dealer tomorrow! Last year I looked at buying a Tundra locally with 830,000 miles on it, and a part of me wonders if it would be more trustworthy than what I own now.

You all are welcome to love on your Ram trucks, but they are competing for bottom of the barrel quality with Chevy. The only way around this is to get the Ram with the non-Chrysler engine, a Toyota transmission, and as many other parts as possible that come from other vendors.

As far as the "Toyotas are outdated, simpler technology" argument is concerned, it's not based in reality. In 1982, Toyota put out a fuel injected 22RE in their small trucks. That's a fuel injected overhead cam engine. Ford got around to this in 1990, Chevy brought over a SOHC engine from Isuzu around 1985, and Dodge similarly in 1995. Who is copying who?

You can complain about Toyota quality all you want, but look how they handled the frame rust issue of the early 2000s: they fixed it! Dodge won't even fix all the years where the pinion nut on the rear diff backs off and throws the driveline off the truck. The new ones (and mine for a while) leak rain water into the cabin with alarming regularity, and how about the cam/lifter failures on the 5.7 with the altered cam position? Is the slight advantage in fuel economy worth the inevitable $4000 repair?

I've had a 4runners, tacomas and tundras over the years and they have all be trouble free. I couldn't kill the '93 4runner (18 year old me tried). resale value on Toyotas is higher than US trucks and it's not even close, although supply and demand is a large part of that equation. If Toyota would make a 3/4 and 1 ton I'd buy it in a heart beat.

My experiences with my 2008 5.7 stick 6 are different than yours, and my truck is a work truck, hauler, tower, woods truck, with no SERIOUS issues since I got it unless regular maintenance and worn parts replacement qualifies. MY water pump, rad, clutch, are original and this truck works for a living, hard at it and is in the woods in winter pretending it is a skidder and dump truck hauling overloads of green wood. Lots of power and only whine from me is the defect pinch joint that recently caused rust in the rear fenders which we will fix with inserts, brazing and painting. When I get into that damned joint I will kill it deader than Biden's brain with tar and seal the damned thing forever.

One more thing. I have racks that allow me to pile it full box three foot six high. Calculate the weight of green wood at a CONSERVATIVE value of 50 pounds per cubic foot times cubic feet times (5.5 times 8 times 3.5 to see the weight it carries up and down hills in the woods and on the highway. When we cut and load RED OAK at a weight of 64 pounds per cubic foot green instead of 50, it is a lot higher not to count the times I pile it higher than three feet six alone.

When I get bar chains on and that weight I can go almost anywhere though dragging the frame really slows me down and too much pushing snow will stop me but it takes a lot.

Original bearings, original shocks and leaf/coil springs.

A mechanic of many years I go to who also sells cars on the side told me the hemi will blow the doors off any other truck on the road. I know that is true, I have done it.

I will let you know when I hit 400,000 but the engine uses very little oil to the point it is not down between changes.

I have owned Fords and GM product trucks and would only buy a Ford 2500 or a GM 3500 for work after my Dodge. I would not even consider any other brands as they would not have the beans to do what my Dodge does and still live.

It is pleasing to have a truck with no marks,scrathes, dings, or rust. My truck is NOT a hobby truck I baby. It works and plays when I work and play. I keep it mechanically fit but it is past the time it requires a full body work/paint makeover but it will happen and when it does, I get professionals to do it. Having this truck a few more years before that point in time, I spare no expense and it looks like a new restored truck (which is will be) 15 years old and gets lots of attention. People do not see 15 year old new trucks very often driven every day not to mention a 41 year old van which is slated for the works shortly. (paint, minor fixes, detail)

BTW, my original 1979 Chev van gets lots of attention from the gals at drive through Tim Hortons as most have never seen a 41 year old van like that before. Bad news is I am in the autumn of my life as an angry older man who has other things on his mind than women though there are many I know and meet in my profession with class, intelligence and poise who take my breath away.

Small trucks for me never cut it and never will, especially those outside of the "Big 3" count. I am prejudiced but for good reasons and I have proven this truck since 2008.

tjfdesmo said:

I bought a '92 4-Runner, and it was a POS. All sorts of issues, and head gaskets at 26K miles. Not likely to try another Yoda any time soon.

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Every car maker turns out a lemon once in awhile. FCA has it's share also.

Last longer?
Seems nobody remembers horrible frame rust issue Toyota had for years with their pickups, Was not uncommon for trucks to break in half driving down the road.

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