Word of advice... Never few up your tank pass the 1st click!

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So some are campaigning for saying the charcoal stuff in the evac canister gets soaked and could potentially ruin the system and need to be replaced. If a dude like me has packed the fuel system plum full until it starts dribbling out from under the hips for decades with out issue, knock on wood. Does it fix itself if I've had a come to bejesus moment and I'm like oh my golly this could happen, so i stop topping off, because if it doesn't repair itself by drying out or whatever it theoretically does, then I guess ill keep on doing my thang , if there's no incentive once you've been a diesel fuel filll rule breaker.
 
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So some are campaigning for saying the charcoal stuff in the evac canister gets soaked and could potentially ruin the system and need to be replaced. If a dude like me has packed the fuel system plum full until it starts dribbling out from under the hips for decades with out issue, knock on wood. Does it fix itself if I've had a come to bejesus moment and I'm like oh my golly this could happen, so i stop topping off, because if it doesn't repair itself by drying out or whatever it theoretically does, then I guess ill keep on doing my thang , if there's no incentive once you've been a diesel fuel filll rule breaker.


That's the thing though ... some people swear up and down that they are filling up the tank until it is having Everclear moments if you know what I mean lol ...

There is something else that is causing this because again I never top off my tank and it started happening within 2 months of me getting my truck brand spanken' new from the lot ....

Someone said that siphoning done at the dealers to avoid having to go to the gas pumps when they have a truc/car that needs gas causes these issues .... I actually believe that this might cause it if replacing the actual fuel tank has solved a lot of peoples problems that have the clicking off issue ...

So my guess is siphoning with what ever they use breaks something in there ... and yes I have heard that there is no way to siphon gas out of these trucks but the dealers are doing it and the way they are doing it must be what is breaking what ever is in place to prevent the regular siphon tweeker from doing so ....
 

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What does the second click of a little gas get you? Nothing, unless you run your tank dry.

Let's say your truck gets 20 mpg and the second click get you 1/2 gallon extra. So, the only time that helps you is if you run your truck to empty or 10 miles. Other then that, nothing.
Re-read my posts. Several times I wrote I can get another 1 to possibly 6 gallons more in the tank. It's usually closer to the 6, not the 1.
Would you pull away knowing you could have put in another 6 gallons? I don't. Also stated I've NEVER had a problem in 45 years of doing this.
What you're providing is a solution to a problem that does not exist in my world.
 

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Re-read my posts. Several times I wrote I can get another 1 to possibly 6 gallons more in the tank. It's usually closer to the 6, not the 1.
Would you pull away knowing you could have put in another 6 gallons? I don't. Also stated I've NEVER had a problem in 45 years of doing this.
What you're providing is a solution to a problem that does not exist in my world.

The 6 is unusual.

Re-read my post and the example.
 

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When the fuel nozzle clicks I stop. Hey! I am going to need fuel again so why risk over filling or cause a malfunction.
 

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I feel many know this now, but maybe not. Years ago this was never a issue cause there were not all these environmental devices added to tanks. In modern cars you really shouldn't ever over fill your tank. Keep in mind every vehicle is different and so is every pump. The advice of always stopping at first click is kinda the all in safe place to stop and never have a issue. Now most Id say 2 clicks is fine but every click you go up you are increasing your risk. I am a very OCD type person, so when getting gas I like to always round up the amount it costs. So if pump clicked off at 41.18 I feel compelled to make it 41.25. I have done this for years and never had a issue yet.
While the issue is usually a messed up sensor etc with over filling there are other potential problems. My last truck was bought at three years of age. Upon purchase it had a full tank of gas. After about a week I needed to fill it up. As soon as it clicked off this splash of gas came flying out of the filler pipe. Thankfully I wasn't near it. So of course I thought it was a pump issue and that was that. Well the next fill up, at a different station it did same thing. I asked a local dealer, place purchased wasn't local, why this would be happening and was I doing something wrong. He replied with, " You just bought it correct? You need to bring back to that dealer and have them deal with it cause it was a safety issue". I contacted the dealer and explained the situation and they arranged for me to bring in. After looking it over they determined the previous owner apparently over filled tank often which led to build up and blockage in some of the venting. So basically what happened was as you filled tank air was getting trapped in there. When pump would stop the air trapped in tank would force the gas left in filler pipe out.
 

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I feel many know this now, but maybe not. Years ago this was never a issue cause there were not all these environmental devices added to tanks. In modern cars you really shouldn't ever over fill your tank. Keep in mind every vehicle is different and so is every pump. The advice of always stopping at first click is kinda the all in safe place to stop and never have a issue. Now most Id say 2 clicks is fine but every click you go up you are increasing your risk. I am a very OCD type person, so when getting gas I like to always round up the amount it costs. So if pump clicked off at 41.18 I feel compelled to make it 41.25. I have done this for years and never had a issue yet.
While the issue is usually a messed up sensor etc with over filling there are other potential problems. My last truck was bought at three years of age. Upon purchase it had a full tank of gas. After about a week I needed to fill it up. As soon as it clicked off this splash of gas came flying out of the filler pipe. Thankfully I wasn't near it. So of course I thought it was a pump issue and that was that. Well the next fill up, at a different station it did same thing. I asked a local dealer, place purchased wasn't local, why this would be happening and was I doing something wrong. He replied with, " You just bought it correct? You need to bring back to that dealer and have them deal with it cause it was a safety issue". I contacted the dealer and explained the situation and they arranged for me to bring in. After looking it over they determined the previous owner apparently over filled tank often which led to build up and blockage in some of the venting. So basically what happened was as you filled tank air was getting trapped in there. When pump would stop the air trapped in tank would force the gas left in filler pipe out.
You only go up to the next .25 for a round up, you got to at least round uo to the next dollar bill. Haaaaaa, just poking the bear, and messing with yah.
 

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I'm guessing it holds about a gallon. I'm also going to add imo, it doesn't seem like today's diesel fuel foams up like the days of old, unless your at the big truck pump, pumping 25 gal. A second

Go fill a 5 gal. can, there is still plenty of foam. One place, at full flow I'll get about 2.5 gal. of fuel & foam fills the rest of the can. Another place is about 3.5 to 1.5.

JIM.
 

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It seems like some of you guys are arguing different things.

If you fill to the first click, and check your fuel gauge:
- some of you are saying the needle isn't at full, and you need to refill/reclick multiple times to get the needle to full
- some of you are saying "my needle is now at full and refill/reclick is going to screw up my evap system"
- some of you are saying "my needle is now at full but I'm going to keep filling until I can taste it anyway"

Different points.

11 pages on this discussion. We truck owners are a strange breed.
 

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I was always in the habit of "rounding off" my has fill up so often I would squirt more in to get to an even number of gallons. But had to quit that with the RAM. The first time I did this I notice I kept smelling gas fumes. No check engine light but not normal. Didn't happen again until I did the same thing and put more gas in after the first click off. So had to quit when the pump said quit. Not had the issue since.
 

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Re-read what I wrote, understand it,, then you will truly understand what is going on..
 

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Don't know why, but my trusted mechanic also said to quit filling when it shuts off on the newer vehicles or you can risk a CEL, on my 97 Jeep I fill until it won't hold anymore though.
 

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One thing that can happen is if the canister gets filled, then it registers fumes all the time and the reaction causes the pressure to build and shuts off the pump. It is kind of self defeating, to much at the beginning leads to malfunction that leads to premature gas pump shut off and requiring more "clicks" to fill although by this time there is no way to know when the vehicle is full by design since the system is broken.

And one reason fuel systems are designed as they are is expansion. For the sake of argument say fuel comes out of the ground at about 60 degrees fahrenheit. You fill up and go to work and the truck sits out all day. A full 30 gallon tank will expand about 1/2 gallon if it warms to 95 degrees. Of course this is just the volume, the actual energy available stays the same.
 

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This really only applies to gas vehicles. Diesels don’t have the evap system that a gas engine does.

If you fill your tank till it fills up the filler neck, you can allow gas to enter the evap system. This can damage the components. The other issue is you can run into random stalling issues. The next time you’re purge valve operates it will dump raw fuel into the intake causing it to stall.

As long as you stop at the first or second click you shouldn’t have any issues. Systems are somewhat designed to prevent this but it can still happen.
 

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IMG_20210502_105158189_HDR~2.jpg Gas sucks, diesel fuel better, delete 2015 2500 gets 20-24 MPGs in city and 23-32 MPGs freeway without DEF or EPA junk.
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I will take my chances. I cant stop on a number that isn't 25, 50, 75 or 1 dollar. It bugs me. Im weird I know.
 

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I fill to the nearest dollar, never had an issue in my 14 1500.

Is this really that big of an issue?
A lot of times of it’s at let’s say 45.10 when it stops. Trying to click off until 46.00 usually means it’s spilling out on the paint and then more adhd issues. Need to clean the paint lol.
 

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A lot of times of it’s at let’s say 45.10 when it stops. Trying to click off until 46.00 usually means it’s spilling out on the paint and then more adhd issues. Need to clean the paint lol.

I’m just confused this is actually a post, I rechecked the original poster date and expected April 1st.
 
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