2022 Ram 1500, 2500.....Yawn

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The 2500 doesn't really have much new to boast about. No ZF, nor Allison behind the Cummins. A couple of electronic do-dads that really don't interest me. Maybe 2023 they'll tempt me.

The 1500 fared a little better. There is now a cool GT trim. It has a few goodies that I like. The manly shifter is now on the console where it should have been all along. No dial shifter like my aunt's 64 Plymouth Fury. You get paddle shifters. But I prefer the Slap Stick.

The GT gets 3.92 gearing. Yea! It also gets MOPAR CAI, and a cold exhaust. Whatever a cold exhaust might be. And the truck looks very handsome inside and out.


But, It isn't Hunter Green like my old 2011. I already have a console shifter with Slap Stick. I already have a CAI, Shorty Headers, and LSD 4.10s. So I'll pass; at least for 2022.

In conclusion, if you're tired of the dial, and your 3.21s, You want a factory CAI, all in a great looking truck, get your order in.
 

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ThE dIaL sHiFtEr Is AwFul

Ehh, it's not the dial itself. It's the programming of the thing that sucks and that's not going to change with a lever on the column. Wanna move the truck in the yard or driveway real quick? Better get all the way in and shut the door. Wanna shift to neutral while you're sitting in the drive-thru? Better put your foot back on the brakes a 0mph before going back into gear.

Where'd you hear 'cold exhaust'? Sounds like you read a blog post from some dingus magoo and took it to heart.
 

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Hopefully a new truck won’t be for me at least over the next 6 or 7 years so whatever they do in the meantime is useless to me but if they keep this new goofy console shifter **** up, a 2500 will be in my sights.

But it’s called a passive cold end exhaust whatever that means.


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Passive Cold End Exhaust.... Brought to you from the people who have brought to you the 4 cylinder V8, chrome clad wheels, grill shutters, 3.21 final gearing, the dial shifter, the transmission heater, etc. lol.

It probably does nothing but get people like us talking about the new model.

Goofy console shifter? Wow, I didn't think anyone like the dial. I know it's just a switch, really. But the console shifter at least looks the part.
 

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Without seeing pics it sounds like they did the same thing to the Ram that the did to the Durango years ago. Durango owners complained about the dial shifter hard enough that it only had it for a couple of years before they put an electronic shift lever in its place. My mothers 15 has the dial, but I think in like 17 or 18 they went to a lever instead.
 

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Passive Cold End Exhaust.... Brought to you from the people who have brought to you the 4 cylinder V8, chrome clad wheels, grill shutters, 3.21 final gearing, the dial shifter, the transmission heater, etc. lol.

It probably does nothing but get people like us talking about the new model.
Could be.

Goofy console shifter? Wow, I didn't think anyone like the dial. I know it's just a switch, really. But the console shifter at least looks the part.

Yes, goofy console shifter. They don’t belong in trucks. At least they dial blends in with the dash, makes for a much cleaner look and gives more storage room.

But you been here how long and you say you didn’t know of anyone that likes the dial? Hmm. That’s odd. There’s plenty of people who like the dial but unless I’m terribly mistaken, isn’t the console shifter just an electronic switch as well? If it is then why care of it looks the part of you know the truth it isn’t?


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I’ve had three 1500s with the dial: two 4th Gen and a 5 th Gen. I appreciate that the dial opens up the console for all my temporary stuff while out and about.
As mentioned, the foot-on-brake to shift or to move the truck are safety ‘features’ that are baked into the transmission control module.
Personally, I don’t care for the old style column shifters, and thankfully Chrysler abandoned the old push-bottom shift controls back in the 60s-early 70s.
 

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Personally, I don’t care for the old style column shifters, and thankfully Chrysler abandoned the old push-bottom shift controls back in the 60s-early 70s.

I don’t have a problem with the column shifters but if I couldn’t have the dial, I’d most certainly would rather have the column shifter instead of a mini van shifter the middle of my console.

Even considering it did have the “Auotstick” in a 2005 Dodge Stratus I once had, I still wasn’t crazy about the console shifter it had even if it was a car.


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Could be.



Yes, goofy console shifter. They don’t belong in trucks. At least they dial blends in with the dash, makes for a much cleaner look and gives more storage room.

But you been here how long and you say you didn’t know of anyone that likes the dial? Hmm. That’s odd. There’s plenty of people who like the dial but unless I’m terribly mistaken, isn’t the console shifter just an electronic switch as well? If it is then why care of it looks the part of you know the truth it isn’t?


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Right call me crazy but I don’t mind the dial a lot more room without a regular shifter.
 

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I don't really care one way or another about the knob itself, this is an old argument - but it is my opinion that primary vehicle controls (direction is one of those) should always attempt to work as an extension of the driver's body.

I understand this is a truck not a track weapon but the best tools in my toolbox are the ones that fit my hand just right and don't flex or move in ways I'm not trying to work them. Every brain cell I don't need to dedicate to tasks like locating the shifter, anticipating when the shifter will actually respond to my input, etc is a brain cell I can put into paying attention to what's happening out the windshield or in the mirrors while I'm negotiating a tight parking garage or backing into a narrow spot or doing a 50-point turn around.

To use an example of another utility machine, all the Clark forklifts I used to drive had EVERY control I was ever going to use right on the dial and joystick. So my eyes could always be on the forks or on the path I was going to travel. The Toyota forklifts didn't have quite as much sophistication but the controls on those were all large color-coded levers positioned in a convenient resting position and direct-acting hydraulics so they're easy to grab blind or with just the slightest peripheral glance and they operate as quickly as I can move my hand.

Imagine if your brakes and steering wheel had a delay while they think about whether your input is valid? How many people buy pedal commanders because the throttle can feel lazy or inconsistent?

That's my problem with the knob, not that it's a knob - rather that I have to spend greater-than-zero effort & attention on interacting with it.
 

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On the subject of the shifter dial, before I bought my Ram I thought it was going to be the one thing I absolutely despised. Within the 45 minutes I test drove the truck, I already "didn't mind it" and once I drove the truck for a couple days I began to like it. As said, it opens up room in the console, its not on the column. The biggest drawback I have is the need to press the brake to shift from neutral. I occasionally hit the drive thru automatic wash by my house. It's annoying to have to jab the brake real quick at .5 MPH at the end of the wash to put in Drive to pull away.

In regards to the GT, I don't hate the idea of manufacturers making "sport" trucks as majority of half ton truck owners wont haul more than a couple hundred pounds in their trucks over the time they own it. Figuring they'll haul a bed, frig, wash/dryer once or twice. And with that most people are not going to buy a second vehicle as a "toy" So a truck that can be sporty and still be a truck and haul the family (quad or crew cab availability) is a win in my eyes.
 

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I don't really care one way or another about the knob itself, this is an old argument - but it is my opinion that primary vehicle controls (direction is one of those) should always attempt to work as an extension of the driver's body.

I understand this is a truck not a track weapon but the best tools in my toolbox are the ones that fit my hand just right and don't flex or move in ways I'm not trying to work them. Every brain cell I don't need to dedicate to tasks like locating the shifter, anticipating when the shifter will actually respond to my input, etc is a brain cell I can put into paying attention to what's happening out the windshield or in the mirrors while I'm negotiating a tight parking garage or backing into a narrow spot or doing a 50-point turn around.

To use an example of another utility machine, all the Clark forklifts I used to drive had EVERY control I was ever going to use right on the dial and joystick. So my eyes could always be on the forks or on the path I was going to travel. The Toyota forklifts didn't have quite as much sophistication but the controls on those were all large color-coded levers positioned in a convenient resting position and direct-acting hydraulics so they're easy to grab blind or with just the slightest peripheral glance and they operate as quickly as I can move my hand.

Imagine if your brakes and steering wheel had a delay while they think about whether your input is valid? How many people buy pedal commanders because the throttle can feel lazy or inconsistent?

That's my problem with the knob, not that it's a knob - rather that I have to spend greater-than-zero effort & attention on interacting with it.
Agree with having things where I don't have to ever shift my gaze. All my vehicles have been column shift except a few standards like my Porsche and a Mercury Zephyr. It is natural to me, I don't have to move my hand very far from the steering wheel, and the physical feel is "just right". But like the idea of the clean look mentioned above with a knob. And the console shifter takes me back to the Hurst. Nice memories all the way around.
 

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I like the dial shifter; it clears room on the column and I don’t have any muscle memory deficiencies that interfere with finding the dial. Every transmission sold in modern-day light-duty vehicles is an electronic marvel. The safety features mandated as a result of idjits bashing their trucks into the garage wall or door in front of them, then opening their door while backing up only to fall out and run over themselves, will be with us regardless of how the transmission is shifted into gear—dial, console, column, or what have you. So the only thing gained with column or console shifting is it gives the driver something to hang onto while getting his manly truck underway. And there are other options for that…;):D

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I prefer the column or console. I just don't like twist knobs - harder on arthritic fingers. Gazing away isn't really an issue - you don't put the vehicle into or out of gear while moving.

The whole console shift lever thing got going with Audi's Tiptronic e-shifting in the 90's. Others started copying it, and pretty soon it was in all sorts of vehicles that took up needed space.

I guess column shifters are too practical for the current crop of drivers?
 

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I prefer the column or console. I just don't like twist knobs - harder on arthritic fingers. Gazing away isn't really an issue - you don't put the vehicle into or out of gear while moving.

The whole console shift lever thing got going with Audi's Tiptronic e-shifting in the 90's. Others started copying it, and pretty soon it was in all sorts of vehicles that took up needed space.

I guess column shifters are too practical for the current crop of drivers?

I don’t mind a column shifter. I just don’t like that console shifter, even if it is dressed up with a hurst handle. How’s that saying go? You can put makeup on a pig but it’s still a pig.


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