Which 0W-40 are you using?

  • Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 in HEMI 5.7

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Castrol EDGE 0W-40 in HEMI 5.7

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 in HEMI 6.4

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Castrol EDGE 0W-40 in HEMI 6.4

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in HEMI 5.7

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-40 in HEMI 6.4

    Votes: 10 45.5%

  • Total voters
    22

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Rod Knock

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How many of you guys are running Castrol EDGE Euro 0W-40 or Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 in your HEMI 5.7? And how many of you are running one of these two fine motor oils in your 6.4 HEMI.

Please comment and spare no details. How do you like it, did any of the two quiet your engine, and for how many miles have you been running one of these motor oils?

Thank you.
 

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I never had "hemi tick" but the valvetrain has always been noisy compared to even my old 5.3 vortec which i understand is just how these engines sound. Mobil 1 fs 0w40 has definately quieted down the valvetrain noise. Once in a while at a drivethru id have a light hot idle tick. I only noticed at drivethrus because thats the only time it idles. Its done it on dealer 5w20 which my dealer thats service pro syn blend, pennzoil platinum 5w20, and schaeffers supreme 9000 5w20 but on the schaeffers it was alot quieter than pennzoil platinum but with the 0w40 it sounds alot better at warm idle than any previous oil.
 
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I never had "hemi tick" but the valvetrain has always been noisy compared to even my old 5.3 vortec which i understand is just how these engines sound. Mobil 1 fs 0w40 has definately quieted down the valvetrain noise. Once in a while at a drivethru id have a light hot idle tick. I only noticed at drivethrus because thats the only time it idles. Its done it on dealer 5w20 which my dealer thats service pro syn blend, pennzoil platinum 5w20, and schaeffers supreme 9000 5w20 but on the schaeffers it was alot quieter than pennzoil platinum but with the 0w40 it sounds alot better at warm idle than any previous oil.
Your experience with Mobil 1 FS 0W-40 pretty much mirrors mine. The HEMI 5.7 does have a loud drivetrain that is unsettling, at least to me, at times. I have a suspicion that the hot idle tick might be injector related.
 

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Thursday evening I put in some pp euro 5w40 but I havnt really been anywhere since. nice and smooth. was quiet before with 10w30 pppp hoping to keep it that way for a long time. will run exclusively euro oils in the future.
 

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Since mine briefly decided to have the tick back in 17 as I have said before I ran seafoam through it and then switched to Edge 5w20 and never has mine returned. I would say I dodged a bullet. I was always afraid of changing it up and running 0w40.
 

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I began my 5.7L Hemi oil changes with PUP 5W20. Then I read through RAT 540's blog on oils. After seeing his data, I switched to QS Ultimate 5W20 for two changes. As I read more on this forum, I switched to Red Line 5W20 for one change, and now I have been running Red Line 5W30 in my 5.7L Hemi for the past several oil changes. I am at 45K miles right now, changing at about 5K intervals. I have not had a "Hemi Tick" so far, and I'm hoping the Red Line quality base oil and Moly content will help avoid it. I did have an apparent fail of the oil filter anti-drainback valve on the from-the-factory oil filter at about 1400 miles, and I did an immediate oil and filter change to a larger filter with known silicone valve.

Two observations:

On another car brand forum I read that Mobil 1 Euro Formula 0W40 is really close to a 0W30 - and my 200K mile car showed increased Hot Idle oil pressure when I switched to Castrol 5w40 synthetic (also "Euro" spec A3/B3). So Mobil 1 is good oil, but maybe not best for all engines.

I switched from Red Line 5W20 to 5W30 after reading comments from member Hemimann (with oil technical background) and observing that I burnt or boiled off some 5W20 RL over 5K miles. Since the change to 5W30 I haven't noticed any significant oil usage at 5K miles. I have driven with this oil from at low as -22F to over 100F with no observed problems.
 
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Since mine briefly decided to have the tick back in 17 as I have said before I ran seafoam through it and then switched to Edge 5w20 and never has mine returned. I would say I dodged a bullet. I was always afraid of changing it up and running 0w40.

You may be onto something there with the Seafoam, though Seafoam is not necessarily what I would use. Nevertheless, if it works, it works, and as far as I know, Seafoam doesn't harm anything. It's just not the strongest cleaner.

I think you had a sticky lifter that wasn't getting enough oil in it. Probably the one-way ball valve had some varnish or sludge in it or other debris. Most thin ILSAC/GF6A motor oils polymerize easily and leave residue behind when the engine cools down. You basically cleaned your ticking lifter or lifters.

Lubegard Bio-Tech also has a potent anti-oxidant, the same one found in Red Line, called Butanedioic acid (4,5-dihydro-5-thioxo-1,3,4-thiadiazol-2-yl) thio-bis (2- ethylhexyl) ester. That will also clean dirty lifters, but it takes some time. That, along with the other detergents found in Lubegard, is what makes it "magic."

The problem with Lubegard Bio-Tech is that when you use it dilutes the other additives in your motor oil. I only added Lubegard Bio-Tech to ACEA A3/B4 motor oils because they have higher concentrations of everything and are more viscous. After your lifter clean is gone, I recommend you do a flush with Lubegard Engine Flush and use good 0W-40 motor oil. I mean, it's your option if you want to keep using 5W-20 because that will work as well, but a thicker oil will make the engine sound so much nicer, keep it cleaner than any 5W-20 ILSAC oil, and provide more wear protection. The downside? I slight loss in fuel economy.
 

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not sure why whenever I see an oil survey they never include the oil that RAM recommends. How can there be an accurate survey without Pennzoil ultra Platinum 0w40?
 
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not sure why whenever I see an oil survey they never include the oil that RAM recommends. How can there be an accurate survey without Pennzoil ultra Platinum 0w40?
I just included your suggestion in the poll. I messed up and forgot to add the "0W-40" to the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in the HEMI 5.7. I am curious how many folks defy the official recommendations, which is a moving target anyway.

Before MS-12633 - these engines were supposed to run any API-approved motor oil that meets MB229.3/MB229.5. That's basically most ACEA A3/B4 motor oils. The only reason why a HEMI 5.7 carries a 5W-20 recommendation is due to CAFÉ (not Starbucks, though).
 

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You may be onto something there with the Seafoam, though Seafoam is not necessarily what I would use. Nevertheless, if it works, it works, and as far as I know, Seafoam doesn't harm anything. It's just not the strongest cleaner.

I think you had a sticky lifter that wasn't getting enough oil in it. Probably the one-way ball valve had some varnish or sludge in it or other debris. Most thin ILSAC/GF6A motor oils polymerize easily and leave residue behind when the engine cools down. You basically cleaned your ticking lifter or lifters.

Lubegard Bio-Tech also has a potent anti-oxidant, the same one found in Red Line, called Butanedioic acid (4,5-dihydro-5-thioxo-1,3,4-thiadiazol-2-yl) thio-bis (2- ethylhexyl) ester. That will also clean dirty lifters, but it takes some time. That, along with the other detergents found in Lubegard, is what makes it "magic."

The problem with Lubegard Bio-Tech is that when you use it dilutes the other additives in your motor oil. I only added Lubegard Bio-Tech to ACEA A3/B4 motor oils because they have higher concentrations of everything and are more viscous. After your lifter clean is gone, I recommend you do a flush with Lubegard Engine Flush and use good 0W-40 motor oil. I mean, it's your option if you want to keep using 5W-20 because that will work as well, but a thicker oil will make the engine sound so much nicer, keep it cleaner than any 5W-20 ILSAC oil, and provide more wear protection. The downside? I slight loss in fuel economy.
My thinking when I ran seafoam was my experience with LS motors. They got loud. That was a popular fix same with the running it through the brake booster. I saw first hand how running the truck filter vs the car filters on the F bodies really boosted oil pressure. Back when this happened to me, there was just starting to have the tick start coming up on here. Not a lot was known on fixes. I knew seafoam wouldn't hurt it, so like I have said I ran it at 60 mph for 100 miles and then immediately changed the oil and went to edge and the puraltor boss filter. Not sure if it was a sticky lifter or what. Whatever it was, that solved it. I did catch mine early on so I got lucky. I am running Lubeguard Bio Tech just for further insurance. After talking with Burla about it and doing lots of reading. I may switch to 5w30 on this next oil change. Its starting to climb in mileage. I ran a motorcraft filter and motorcraft syn blend in my old 04 1/2 5.4 3v and ran for 194k miles before I sold it. I never had one of the major issues with the phasers and the chain. I truly believe in running quality spec stuff really extends the life of any engine.
 

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PUP 0w40 with 15 ounces of lubegard. Had a little tick on first startup for a second or 2 but after putting in the lubegard the last few oil changes thats gone. Was going to try redline but changing it every 5k when I already put on over 30k in a little over a year I think I'll just be happy with the way it is.
 

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Castrol Euro 0W-40 here too for my 2014 6.4 Hemi. Cannot find PUP anywhere in the stores around me. Have used Castrol for the last 6 oil changes. Has less produced less lifter noise at startup than when the dealer did my first 3 oil changes with PUP. Think I'll run a Blackstone analysis at my next oil change. 71,000 miles on it. Runs smooth and quiet.
 
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