IS IT TIME 5.7 TO GET DROPPED ???

Tim7139 · Dec 14, 2021

HEMIMANN said:
Well, here ya go...........

This Gamechanging Pickup Is the 2022 MotorTrend Truck of the Year

A remarkably original take on the pickup truck redefines the genre and comes out on top.

www.motortrend.com

Since we are primarily visual creatures, to me this thing is inherently ugly. Looks like a Go Bot (remember those?). But I'm not the primary target demographic anymore.

Looks like a movie prop, possibly from the ***** Allen movie Sleeper.

HEMIMANN · Dec 14, 2021

I dunno, maybe too many of us are fossils.

I remember when Ford came out with their gen whatever F150 in the 90's when Bill Ford wanted everything on the vehicle to resemble a Ford brand oval. I told a Ford salesman I didn't want a truck that looked like a spaceship. He just hung his head and shuffled off. He hated it too. Back then the SuperDuty road like the dump truck it was, Ram was only Gen III, so I was a Chevy buyer then.

Maybe the Millenials and Z's like the go bot vehicle look. It's what they grew up with on media screens.

mikeru · Dec 14, 2021

HEMIMANN said:
I dunno, maybe too many of us are fossils.

I remember when Ford came out with their gen whatever F150 in the 90's when Bill Ford wanted everything on the vehicle to resemble a Ford brand oval. I told a Ford salesman I didn't want a truck that looked like a spaceship. He just hung his head and shuffled off. He hated it too. Back then the SuperDuty road like the dump truck it was, Ram was only Gen III, so I was a Chevy buyer then.

Maybe the Millenials and Z's like the go bot vehicle look. It's what they grew up with on media screens.

Could be. I'm almost 60, and I still want to do a resto-mod on a Chevy square body. All I know is I like what I like, and I don't like how that Rivian truck looks LOL.

Dodge 1500 4X4 · Dec 14, 2021

It looks like a Cat Fish with all of those tiny holes for lights, it would make a great electric toaster oven, tell you what I'm not taking this EV thing very well, they are jamming it down our throats.

mikeru · Dec 14, 2021

Dodge 1500 4X4 said:
It looks like a Cat Fish with all of those tiny holes for lights, it would make a great electric toaster oven, tell you what I'm not taking this EV thing very well, they are jamming it down our throats.

Agreed. We just don't have the infrastructure for EV's across the country. People who live in metropolitan areas seem out of touch with what it's like to drive for an hour or two and maybe see two gas stations, neither of which is going to have a charging station. Even if they did, who wants to sit in the middle of nowhere, for however long it will take to charge the battery pack enough to reach the next charging station? And then wait for longer while it's charging again. Maybe I'll look into coming up with some kind of entertainment at charging stations. Who wouldn't invest in a charging station/movie theater, or charging station/bar? Get loaded while your car gets charged.

I'd honestly be okay with a plug-in hybrid vehicle, if it meets my needs. As long as it has some way of continuing to drive when the battery dies. A fully electric vehicle doesn't interest me in the least though.

HEMIMANN · Dec 14, 2021

I've read there is resistance to building "level 2" fast charging stations because they are much more expensive. I don't know, just reporting what I've read. Level 2 stations are 240 VAC single phase, Level 1 stations are 120 VAC single phase and are very slow charge rates.

Dodge 1500 4X4 · Dec 14, 2021

Holy Hell how 480 3 phase we can send them to outer space!!!

dhay13 · Dec 14, 2021

They will probably tell us to buy a $5000 gas powered generator to put in the bed of the truck to have a mobile charging station with you until they get the charging infrastructure up...lol

IvoryHemi · Dec 15, 2021

It may be down on power compared to Ford/GM but the 5.7L Hemi is the only HD engine available in a 1/2 ton truck.

Won’t find the 3.5L or 6.2L in a 3/4 ton with their aluminum blocks

Docwagon1776 · Dec 15, 2021

HEMIMANN said:
I dunno, maybe too many of us are fossils.

I remember when Ford came out with their gen whatever F150 in the 90's when Bill Ford wanted everything on the vehicle to resemble a Ford brand oval. I told a Ford salesman I didn't want a truck that looked like a spaceship.

I never warmed up to the melted wax F-150s. I ended up buying a used square body Dodge, not having the money to buy the Kenworth-inspired current Dodge of the day.

Beltsand · Dec 15, 2021

dhay13 said:
They will probably tell us to buy a $5000 gas powered generator to put in the bed of the truck to have a mobile charging station with you until they get the charging infrastructure up...lol

Is the generator more efficient than the current engines? If it is, how about after converting fuel to electrons then converting those electrons to motion, is that more efficient? Certainly not when you consider the cost up of the EV, then the additional cost of the generator, time, and the gas cans I have to haul around.

Kart20 · Dec 15, 2021

"Rivian's 135-kWh battery (133 usable) provides 314 miles of range, far more than enough for most road trips and off-road adventures. Its ability to charge at 190 kW now, the promised over-the-air upgrade to 300-kW charging, and Rivian's ongoing efforts to install chargers at trailheads, campsites, and parks mean range is no real concern."

Now that's just funny! How far out of touch with reality do you have to be to write articles for that magazine!

dhay13 · Dec 15, 2021

Beltsand said:
Is the generator more efficient than the current engines? If it is, how about after converting fuel to electrons then converting those electrons to motion, is that more efficient? Certainly not when you consider the cost up of the EV, then the additional cost of the generator, time, and the gas cans I have to haul around.

Exactly. I was being sarcastic...lol

BWL · Dec 15, 2021

No manufacturers want to spend money on development anymore for gas engines. All shifting development to electric for now so we better get used to what we have.. I laugh at the 315 miles is plenty of range. I put that on before lunch on my travel days for work. I know for me electric would mean more time on the road for work off the clock and less time at home, but hope that if things continue the battery capacities and charging speeds will make it less inconvenient over time or I can retire before I'm forced into it. Hemi has plenty of power for me and should be a 200,000 mile engine for most people. Seems like most of my problems repair wise are electrical nowadays so I really doubt the electric vehicles being less maintenance angle over time. Maybe less service visits, but I suspect same or similar cost per mile for R and M over time.

2012RAM1500RT · Dec 15, 2021

BWL said:
No manufacturers want to spend money on development anymore for gas engines. All shifting development to electric for now so we better get used to what we have.. I laugh at the 315 miles is plenty of range. I put that on before lunch on my travel days for work. I know for me electric would mean more time on the road for work off the clock and less time at home, but hope that if things continue the battery capacities and charging speeds will make it less inconvenient over time or I can retire before I'm forced into it. Hemi has plenty of power for me and should be a 200,000 mile engine for most people. Seems like most of my problems repair wise are electrical nowadays so I really doubt the electric vehicles being less maintenance angle over time. Maybe less service visits, but I suspect same or similar cost per mile for R and M over time.

I agree. Sunday is my only day off as it is and the wife and I on average will ride more than 300 miles just sight seeing and going to different places. Guess I'll have to add an extra hour to our already time strapped trips to charge my battery. We love back roads with sights. If they ever put the "Horse in front of the cart" this probably won't happen as fast as home bodies are hoping for. (My hopes at least).

Beltsand · Dec 15, 2021

dhay13 said:
Exactly. I was being sarcastic...lol

The sad part is that they already have diesel generators set up to provide EV recharge points. Can't fix stupid!

Sammy · Dec 15, 2021

pacofortacos said:
Hemi shouldn't be anymore to rebuild than any other motor, it isn't an exotic engine by any stretch. People are charging for a complete rebuild when a lifter goes because that way they can put a longer warranty on it.

There isn't any F150 motor that gets double the mpg (other than a diesel) of the hemi. When towing using the ecoboost motors, they certainly aren't getting good mpg either and certainly not twice the mpg of the V8's - can't cheat physics.

I can’t say I’ve ever worked out the mpg. But I know my fuel bill isn’t lying to me.
I guess people get sore over peoples real world experience.
As I’ve said in other posts. I’ve owned 15,17 and 19 ram with 5.7
Also we have owned 17,19,21 f150s
17 was a 5.0 19 was a 2.7 and 21 is 3.5
So I guess I’m just cheating physics
And Hemi and ford motors are both big $
Problem with hemis is every one is going to have top end issues that hasn’t changed and never will.

Sammy · Dec 15, 2021

JerryETX said:
Sammy not sure on the cost of fixing a Hemi but that doesn't make sense. Yeah there are eco boosts with 200k plus out there but I would bet money there's a lot more Hemi's than Eco's with 200K plus. Not true on the fuel. I put about 80K on a Ecoboost and yeah they get great mpg but so does the 5.7 Hemi. My daily driving average in the Eco (3.5L in a F-150 4x4) was around 19 mpg (mix of highway and city) and that of course doesn't include any towing. That's about what an equal Hemi 5.7 will get (equally geared). Eco's are fast no doubt but seriously??? Keep it real.

I’ve owned 15,17 and 19 ram with 5.7
Also we have owned 17,19,21 f150s
17 was a 5.0 19 was a 2.7 and 21 is 3.5
I guess my fuel bills lying to me.
Fords been best selling truck on the market for how many years. And they have had how many engine options for there Half tons
Mean while rams has ran the same engine since 2010. So yes your right Probaly more 5.7s on the road. Ticking everywhere they go.

barr0208 · Dec 15, 2021

Sammy said:
I’ve owned 15,17 and 19 ram with 5.7
Also we have owned 17,19,21 f150s
17 was a 5.0 19 was a 2.7 and 21 is 3.5
I guess my fuel bills lying to me.
Fords been best selling truck on the market for how many years. And they have had how many engine options for there Half tons
Mean while rams has ran the same engine since 2010. So yes your right Probaly more 5.7s on the road. Ticking everywhere they go.

ive owned a 2010ram a2014 a 2016 and now 2019 the only one that ticked was my 2010 due to manifold bolts. which ford also had problems with also turbo failures and what about the ford 5.4 spark plug issue they are number one because they sell a lot of fleet trucks at huge discounts and put the losses on the other sales there prices are outrageous for what you get.

Farmer Fran · Dec 15, 2021

Sammy said:
I’ve owned 15,17 and 19 ram with 5.7
Also we have owned 17,19,21 f150s
17 was a 5.0 19 was a 2.7 and 21 is 3.5
I guess my fuel bills lying to me.
Fords been best selling truck on the market for how many years. And they have had how many engine options for there Half tons
Mean while rams has ran the same engine since 2010. So yes your right Probaly more 5.7s on the road. Ticking everywhere they go.

Cool, awesome and good on you. So take your Ford and non ticking engine over to the Ford forum.

IS IT TIME 5.7 TO GET DROPPED ???

do you think CHRYSLER need to drop the 5.7 hemi

5.7 hemi is ok in ram1500

TIME FOR CHANGE !!!! need more power to keep up with competition

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