Mopars new turbo 6 cylinder Hurricane's appear to be very impressive

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Mopar Ecoboost, maybe they should pay Ford some royalties. Maybe not exactly but has twin turbo's anyhow. A few more years we wont have has engines, lol.
 

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Ok, somebody explain to me how a spark-ignited engine of only 3.0 liters displacement can produce 450 foot-pounds of torque? I see this is a single direct fuel injector per cylinder architecture, so it sure as hell doesn't get there in lean burn A.F.R. mode, so in rich burn mode are they saying they can control gasoline injection timing coincident with the spark as to get an over-rich A.F.R. for greater torque? I don't care how many turbos you put on a sparky, if you can't control pre-ignition, you're gonna blow holes in pistons!

I don't get it. And, dammit, yet ANOTHER single injector engine! ARRGGHH
 

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I was surprised reading the "as much as 15% increase in economy vs the hemi". Doesn't seem like a big gain. Should make the trucks faster and shave some weight though. reliability will be the big question mark for a while.
 

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I was surprised reading the "as much as 15% increase in economy vs the hemi". Doesn't seem like a big gain. Should make the trucks faster and shave some weight though. reliability will be the big question mark for a while.

Sounds about right to me for a turbo boost add - the thermodynamics are what determines fuel efficiency. What I want to know is how they can get that much more cylinder pressure in only 3.0 liters of displacement without blowing the pistons out. Diesel is easy - you don't inject until you want to burn it. But with a spark plug?
 

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There's nothing like a V8 for off the line racing, and the double combustion rumble.

Neither is there nothing like an inline 6 for torque for towing.

Should of kept V8's in half tons and big 6 in heavy duty's. I'm highly skeptical of a 3.0 liter block for heavy duty. How is that thing gonna last?
 

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There's nothing like a V8 for off the line racing, and the double combustion rumble.

Neither is there nothing like an inline 6 for torque for towing.

Should of kept V8's in half tons and big 6 in heavy duty's. I'm highly skeptical of a 3.0 liter block for heavy duty. How is that thing gonna last?
It sounds like the way they treat the cylinders is the key to handling the power, but I have my doubts on long term reliability for a tow rig. Those guys will probably stick with diesel and may push the 6.4 crowd that way if they do go that route. Not like they can go electric yet with the abysmal tow range on what's coming on the market and ford has been ecoboost for ages now in the half ton, but still developed a big block V8 for the heavy duty.
 

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A Challenger R/T up to a Demon with a 6 cylinder for a performance car will be about as exciting to me as the Jolly Green Giant singing Mary had a little lamb in tenor while wearing high heels and a pink tutu!
 
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The i6 design has always been practical for higher torque and smoother engine. I actually like the idea of a twin turbo i6 but not for a work truck. Maybe for a regular daily but not towing and hauling heavy in a 2500. They need to keep the i6 to the 1500 and leave the 6.4 in the 2500. I’d be down to buy a jeep set up that way actually. I wanted an eco diesel jeep or a 2.8 Cummins swap jeep for a while but the way things are going that’s not looking feasible cost wise.
 

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my son just bought the wife one of the new three row jeep grand cherokees with the 5.7 hemi. the jeep dealer told him the TT6 will be going into the jeeps asap..of course I have also heard that the EPA has shut down jeep production for some reason
 

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Before I bought the Ram I almost bought an X4 M Competition BMW with a dual turbo in-line 6.
515HP, not sure about the torque however. But with programming, lots of things are possible.
The downside, and what changed my decision, is the $40,000.00 for a new engine, and likely $50,000.00 by the time the warranty was up.
 

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Before I bought the Ram I almost bought an X4 M Competition BMW with a dual turbo in-line 6.
515HP, not sure about the torque however. But with programming, lots of things are possible.
The downside, and what changed my decision, is the $40,000.00 for a new engine, and likely $50,000.00 by the time the warranty was up.

@ 10,000 rpm ha ha
 

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I would love a turbo charged 6 cylinder for my uses, why not? I only tow a 5 x 10 trailer, at worst it is 3-5k loaded. I would take a turbo over a hemi, but I would want a pi turbo and not a di turbo. I would gladly give back 50hp for the privilege as well. What a port injection turbo gives you over a direct injection, no super knock. You have an engine that is 15% less efficient then a di, but it is gonna last. I just don't like the direction they take with no options.

Toyota uses a pi/di which is supposed to lessen the chances of knock, pot injection at low pm's, then di kicks in. But sounds complicated when the perfect option is to hand back the hose power and say no thanks, and pick up the longevity. The next generation of people are gonna be much more interested in longevity above all else, but it isnt gonna be thee for them.

What would you rather have, a PI that is 350 HP gonna be the same mileage give or take, o a DI that is 400HP but is susceptible to super knock? Maybe most guys will still want the HP, but I'm sure of few of us ol teds would go the other route. I don't want to buy a new truck every 5 or 10 years, I'd rather have my truck out last me if possible.
 
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Thanks for forwarding for us.

Ok, somebody explain to me how a spark-ignited engine of only 3.0 liters displacement can produce 450 foot-pounds of torque? I see this is a single direct fuel injector per cylinder architecture, so it sure as hell doesn't get there in lean burn A.F.R. mode, so in rich burn mode are they saying they can control gasoline injection timing coincident with the spark as to get an over-rich A.F.R. for greater torque? I don't care how many turbos you put on a sparky, if you can't control pre-ignition, you're gonna blow holes in pistons!

I don't get it. And, dammit, yet ANOTHER single injector engine! ARRGGHH
Using the old rule of thumb ,that every atmosphere of boost basically doubles the size of the engine,i'm gonna guess they'll be hitting it with close to 28 lbs of boost if not more,how they're keeping detonation under control on pump fuel,i'm not sure though,lol
 
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