Mopars new turbo 6 cylinder Hurricane's appear to be very impressive

quickster2 · Mar 25, 2022

What kind of oil & filter choices will this bring Lol? Sorry

DILLIGAF · Mar 25, 2022

quickster2 said:
What kind of oil & filter choices will this bring Lol? Sorry

As long as you can comprehend Blackstone oil reports it isnt rocket science... lol..

HEMIMANN · Mar 25, 2022

Who's designing the engine? Peugeot?

HEMIMANN · Mar 25, 2022

Burla said:
I would love a turbo charged 6 cylinder for my uses, why not? I only tow a 5 x 10 trailer, at worst it is 3-5k loaded. I would take a turbo over a hemi, but I would want a pi turbo and not a di turbo. I would gladly give back 50hp for the privilege as well. What a port injection turbo gives you over a direct injection, no super knock. You have an engine that is 15% less efficient then a di, but it is gonna last. I just don't like the direction they take with no options.

Toyota uses a pi/di which is supposed to lessen the chances of knock, pot injection at low pm's, then di kicks in. But sounds complicated when the perfect option is to hand back the hose power and say no thanks, and pick up the longevity. The next generation of people are gonna be much more interested in longevity above all else, but it isnt gonna be thee for them.

What would you rather have, a PI that is 350 HP gonna be the same mileage give or take, o a DI that is 400HP but is susceptible to super knock? Maybe most guys will still want the HP, but I'm sure of few of us ol teds would go the other route. I don't want to buy a new truck every 5 or 10 years, I'd rather have my truck out last me if possible.

I'd take a dual DI + PI engine, or a PI only engine like our Hemis.
But these DI only engines suck.

Wild one · Mar 25, 2022

HEMIMANN said:
Who's designing the engine? Peugeot?

I've heard Mercedes had a hand in the development,but i haven't found anything that confirms that though.

EdGs · Mar 25, 2022

Looks interesting, but I want to see some real-world numbers before I jump on the wagon.

I know this has likely been in the works for awhile, but still leery.

Plus, premium fuel on top. I am going to reserve judgement.

RLJ10X · Mar 25, 2022

Ford puts an engine half that size in the Bronco Squirt, I mean Bronco Sport. It's a 1.5L twin turbo. 3 popper. My son bought one. He says it is plenty for what he does, which is: basically drives it like a car.

3 liters seems awfully small for a full sized pickup.

ripping r · Mar 25, 2022

I do not think it can out pull my 6.4 hemi. and even if its close it wont live as long.

Wild one · Mar 26, 2022

Here's another spin on it,this article makes you wonder if the 6.4 truck engine might still stick around.

How Stellantis' New Inline-Six Fits Into the Automaker's EV-Heavy Future

The automaker has big hopes for electrification, but the reality of the situation is more complicated.

www.roadandtrack.com

Fediej · Mar 26, 2022

RLJ10X said:
3 liters seems awfully small for a full sized pickup.

Like the 2.7 Ecoboost, 3.0 EcoDiesel or 3.0 Duramax?

crazykid1994 · Mar 26, 2022

So the engine is being designed by Alfa Romeo. That should be interesting.

AussieCanadian · Mar 26, 2022

Nice to see, but will be some time before its mainstream.

Also, the engine requires premium gas?? So then, doesn't that cancel out any economy gains? The 15% improvement in economy is surely measured against a hemi running std gas vs the turbo running premium.

Wild one · Mar 26, 2022

AussieCanadian said:
Nice to see, but will be some time before its mainstream.

Also, the engine requires premium gas?? So then, doesn't that cancel out any economy gains? The 15% improvement in economy is surely measured against a hemi running std gas vs the turbo running premium.

Re-read the articles closer,there's 2 versions of the engine,only the high output version requires premium.I highly doubt the one destined for the 1500's will be the one requiring premium.The version requiring premium is more then likely the one the cars and high output Jeeps would get.

pacofortacos · Mar 26, 2022

HEMIMANN said:
Sounds about right to me for a turbo boost add - the thermodynamics are what determines fuel efficiency. What I want to know is how they can get that much more cylinder pressure in only 3.0 liters of displacement without blowing the pistons out. Diesel is easy - you don't inject until you want to burn it. But with a spark plug?

Direct injection is similar, the injector is in the combustion chamber and only injects fuel at the last second (as determined to not have spark knock, limit emissions, max efficiency, etc).
That has been around for years, biggest issue to date has been carbon buildup on the intake valves.

pacofortacos · Mar 26, 2022

I thought the PI/DI combo is really a DI but uses PI as a side thing - mainly to keep the valves clean.
DI is a great setup if you can keep the valves clean - much more torque than a PI engine, mainly due to the much higher compression. Most DI (normally aspirated) motors are running 12.5-13.5 compression on 87 octane fuel. Good power and mpg - great mpg under light load.

pacofortacos · Mar 26, 2022

That motor looks like an absolute nightmare to work on though.
Not sold on Fiat, Alpha Romeo, Peugot engineering though - none are known for high quality lol.

crash68 · Mar 26, 2022

"the Hurricane-specific system runs at a ridiculous 5075 psi. According to Jewett, this helps ensure that the fuel is better atomized before meeting with any air"
I wouldn't say 5075 psi is ridiculous for a fuel injection pressure, diesel direct injection pushes upwards of 30,000 psi.

pacofortacos · Mar 26, 2022

Diesel isn't quite as volatile as gas is though.

5075 psi is higher than most DI setups.

AJNY · Mar 26, 2022

Looks like my 2021 RAM 1500 5.7 is the last truck I will buy. I refuse to get an EV POS. It’s stupid to buy a EV vehicle where charging stations are far and few between. Takes a long time to charge. And wait when the government charges you for each mile you travel your EV. The GRID will never withstand the load placed on it as more EV ‘s become popular.
Wait for the next evacuation order due to a natural disaster and people are stuck in traffic. When the EV’s run out of juice and it takes a half hour to recharge. At least with a gas/diesel you can throw a few extra fuel jugs in the back of the truck or car. Cannot do that with a EV.

Wild one · Mar 26, 2022

AJNY said:
Looks like my 2021 RAM 1500 5.7 is the last truck I will buy. I refuse to get an EV POS. It’s stupid to buy a EV vehicle where charging stations are far and few between. Takes a long time to charge. And wait when the government charges you for each mile you travel your EV. The GRID will never withstand the load placed on it as more EV ‘s become popular.
Wait for the next evacuation order due to a natural disaster and people are stuck in traffic. When the EV’s run out of juice and it takes a half hour to recharge. At least with a gas/diesel you can throw a few extra fuel jugs in the back of the truck or car. Cannot do that with a EV.

That's where your gas powered generator comes into play,lol :Big Laugh:

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