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Hey everyone I know there’s a million threads out there on exhaust but I’m a little stuck. I currently have a 18 1500 5.7l, truck currently has a 18in magnaflow si/do. I like the acceleration of the magnaflow I just want a deeper tone at idle. I definitely would like to stay away from the raspy car sound.

Option 1 upgrade y pipe and add borla proxs 19in single in dual out. Retain factory reso’s and add 5in tips. Also open to switching the factory reso’s to borla if anyone has experience with aftermarket reso’s.

Option 2 full 2.25 dual exhaust with H pipe and dual borla proxs 14in mufflers. Retain factory reso’s and add 5in tips.

I’m open to other thoughts I’m not sure where the idle loses it’s punch. I’m a welder by profession will be building the system myself so nothing is off the table. I don’t want to wake the neighbors just want to add a real clean deep sound to the truck.
 

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Borla will be the same as the maggy… same internal design. Deeper tone would be a longer case straight through perf core muffler like a 23” or so as it will cancel out more upper range frequencies that could be making there way through.

Changing the tone otherwise is muffler design so chambered, super turbo style etc.

I have the 19” borla pro XS and I added another smaller resonator/muffler from ZDPP which is a drone reducing muffler for 4 banger turbo cars like SS cobalts and SRT4s. I made both muffler fit in the stock muffler placement and no mods to the stock exhaust. The drone muffler took a good bit of the cold start bark out and the drone in the 1500-1800 Range. I have stock resonators and 5” tips. Exhaust is pretty good and close to my favorite catback below.

I’ve run a dual 2.5” catback from dynomax SS with a 23” case SS muffler and 5” tips and loved this. No drone, nice deep tone but pipe fitment wasn’t great and the pipes were aluminized so after 2 years I almost had to cut the exhaust out to go back to stock when I returned the truck. This is why I tried the borla as I wanted to Keep stock stainless and just bolt on aftermarket tips.

I ran stock system with a 18” maggy clone and the drone was terrible so I sold that within a month of having it.

For me the sweet spot is 20-23” straight through muffler as it’s not loud can cruise with kids and not want to kill yourself and it’s a deep tone. The 19” borla is just barely enough but like I said adding a small specialized muffler before it was needed for my taste.
 

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I went with muffler delete and kept the resonators when I had my Ram. 5" tips deepened the sound even more.
 

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Borla is my favorite for the rams. Have the borla s type catback which uses a large si/do muffler with a perforated straight through design. No rasp. No noticeable drone for my wife and I. I’ve had this for over a year and it’s fully broken in. The catback uses new 2.5” piping to the rear with resonators as well.
 
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Borla will be the same as the maggy… same internal design. Deeper tone would be a longer case straight through perf core muffler like a 23” or so as it will cancel out more upper range frequencies that could be making there way through.

Changing the tone otherwise is muffler design so chambered, super turbo style etc.

I have the 19” borla pro XS and I added another smaller resonator/muffler from ZDPP which is a drone reducing muffler for 4 banger turbo cars like SS cobalts and SRT4s. I made both muffler fit in the stock muffler placement and no mods to the stock exhaust. The drone muffler took a good bit of the cold start bark out and the drone in the 1500-1800 Range. I have stock resonators and 5” tips. Exhaust is pretty good and close to my favorite catback below.

I’ve run a dual 2.5” catback from dynomax SS with a 23” case SS muffler and 5” tips and loved this. No drone, nice deep tone but pipe fitment wasn’t great and the pipes were aluminized so after 2 years I almost had to cut the exhaust out to go back to stock when I returned the truck. This is why I tried the borla as I wanted to Keep stock stainless and just bolt on aftermarket tips.

I ran stock system with a 18” maggy clone and the drone was terrible so I sold that within a month of having it.

For me the sweet spot is 20-23” straight through muffler as it’s not loud can cruise with kids and not want to kill yourself and it’s a deep tone. The 19” borla is just barely enough but like I said adding a small specialized muffler before it was needed for my taste.

Did you run a single dual in dual out muffler on you’re dual setup? I would be open to a dual in dual out larger single muffler. Running at 65-75 I get a little bit of drone with the maggy but the stereo covers it up pretty well. From YouTube videos I know that’s nothing compared to in person the borlas seem to have a little bit different tone than the magnaflows. I know it’s the same style muffler. I refuse to do a chambered muffler as long as I have mds, turbo mufflers are just plain restrictive and round mufflers are to raspy for me. I ran a borla xr-1 on my 6.4 2500 and the start up was mean but it was overall to loud. so I’m pretty well stuck with straight through. Thank you for you’re in put.

Also would stepping up to 2.5in benefit in sound? I’m not looking for performance, I don’t even think 2.5 after that cats would even help.
 

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Did you run a single dual in dual out muffler on you’re dual setup? I would be open to a dual in dual out larger single muffler. Running at 65-75 I get a little bit of drone with the maggy but the stereo covers it up pretty well. From YouTube videos I know that’s nothing compared to in person the borlas seem to have a little bit different tone than the magnaflows. I know it’s the same style muffler. I refuse to do a chambered muffler as long as I have mds, turbo mufflers are just plain restrictive and round mufflers are to raspy for me. I ran a borla xr-1 on my 6.4 2500 and the start up was mean but it was overall to loud. so I’m pretty well stuck with straight through. Thank you for you’re in put.

Also would stepping up to 2.5in benefit in sound? I’m not looking for performance, I don’t even think 2.5 after that cats would even help.
Single in dual out borla pro XS. I like the borla more than a Maggie or Maggie clone and I’m sure it’s mostly just the packing that’s probably different.

2.5” would be louder on its own just due to the increase in DIA vs the 2.25”. Worth noting that anything larger than the stock piping offers no performance benefit as the area of the dual 2.25” is on par with that of the 3” before. You want a muffler with a curve in the flow path as that will absorb more of the raspy sounds since the flow is forced to curve so something with offset inlet outlet or like the single in dual out mufflers. I would have preferred a larger case muffler similar to what is in the borla touring catbacks but im not paying that kind of money for little to no performance gain. The borla pro XS isn’t to bad especially with a small round case muffler before it which is my bandaid for the borlas smaller case size. The vibrant street SS mufflers are also REALLY good but idk if they offer single in dual out configs, I almost ran that over my ZDPP drone muffler and I run one on my turbo firebird.
 

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Unless you upgrade prior to the muffler no it won’t help as the dual 2.25 flows more than a single 3”. I bought the catback though because I wanted the different tips with a straight drop in. My truck is definitely quieter with the borla s type than it was the carven progressive that I had prior. A straight through muffler will help performance wise towards the top end which is nice but otherwise you will not notice a difference. Especially with the stock manifolds and y pipe
 
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Unless you upgrade prior to the muffler no it won’t help as the dual 2.25 flows more than a single 3”. I bought the catback though because I wanted the different tips with a straight drop in. My truck is definitely quieter with the borla s type than it was the carven progressive that I had prior. A straight through muffler will help performance wise towards the top end which is nice but otherwise you will not notice a difference. Especially with the stock manifolds and y pipe
I’m not worried about performance at all. This is strictly sound. Just trying to see if I up the pipe size would I get a lower tone. It might be louder but I can always combat that with resonators or step up to a larger muffler.
 

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since you can weld and are going for sound definitely go for a true dual with crossover. all the pipe and the crossover itself helps absorb some of the nasty tones and you can put on twice the mufflers if you wish!
I have stock manifolds, 2.5 dual from before the y pipe (now x pipe) into 2 single chamber super 10 style mufflers to the stock rear duals with resonators
sounds absolutely amazing, head filling bass at cold idle if your standing behind it at start up
calms down alot to a perfect muscle car idle when warm
has the perfect old school hemi rumble when cruising through town at 2500- 3500 rpms. I use the gear+/- all the time so never hear mds and keep it at the rpms I desire
I consider it quiet in cab but when you get in a tunnel or tight city streets you can really appreciate the resonance :party36:
 

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since you can weld and are going for sound definitely go for a true dual with crossover. all the pipe and the crossover itself helps absorb some of the nasty tones and you can put on twice the mufflers if you wish!
I have stock manifolds, 2.5 dual from before the y pipe (now x pipe) into 2 single chamber super 10 style mufflers to the stock rear duals with resonators
sounds absolutely amazing, head filling bass at cold idle if your standing behind it at start up
calms down alot to a perfect muscle car idle when warm
has the perfect old school hemi rumble when cruising through town at 2500- 3500 rpms. I use the gear+/- all the time so never hear mds and keep it at the rpms I desire
I consider it quiet in cab but when you get in a tunnel or tight city streets you can really appreciate the resonance :party36:
I have seen the videos of you’re exhaust a few times definitely sounds awesome.
 

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there’s a guy here at work that has the new ram gt and the exhaust sounds really good
 

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You want a loud deep idle then go with a cut out.

You won't get loud and deep with a conventional "packed" muffler, you need a small chambered muffler for that....but you will get rasp, that's the trade off.

You want strait pipe sound at idle and a muffled sound while driving cruising, that is the unicortn of exhausts.

The other option is the AWE catback. From what I understand its deeper than the Corsa tone and perhaps not as raspy.
 
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You want a loud deep idle then go with a cut out.

You won't get loud and deep with a conventional "packed" muffler, you need a small chambered muffler for that....but you will get rasp, that's the trade off.

You want strait pipe sound at idle and a muffled sound while driving cruising, that is the unicortn of exhausts.

The other option is the AWE catback. From what I understand its deeper than the Corsa tone and perhaps not as raspy.

Videos sound really good on the AWE.

I have toyed with the idea of variable exhaust with vacuum operated valves similar to the earlier z06 exhaust. but I’m not really ready to spend the time for research just yet, the idea of electric cut out is nice, open is to much for anything other than idle. I could y pipe with a cut out and tag a smaller muffler on there I’m just trying to run through all my options.
 

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I would suggest a 22" Magnaflow and a set of 5" tips. Surprisingly the tips make a huge difference in the tone.
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If you're going to replace the y-pipe, you may as well go x. One option is the borla 400286, it has an internal x-pipe, so it cuts down on extra welding. Performance wise, it's a good setup. Otherwise, I'd run an x-pipe to dual black widow 10" widowmakers and connect to the stock tail pipes. Should sound damn good and minimize drone and should perform damn well since those mufflers are basically straight through.
 

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I would suggest a 22" Magnaflow and a set of 5" tips. Surprisingly the tips make a huge difference in the tone.
Jay
I just put the total flow 5" tips in my truck, and honestly, I think it's quieter. I think it has to do with the tips being dual wall instead of single.
 
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