How low can I go on 4x4?

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This is an Internet discussion. You can ask anything. Quit being so thin skinned.

Maybe the OP has the inside scoop that the rest of us hadn't considered. This wouldn't be the first time something was not what it appeared. I also question why you'd want to lower a truck when you can go buy a Challenger, but people do weird stuff all the time.

If I was going to lower a truck, I'd go to AirRide Technologies in Jasper Indiana, and do it up right. The dude that started AirRide is a big ol boy, and he wanted a truck that he could easily get in and out of, yet raise it back up when needed.

And BTW, you aren't ever going to recoup enough fuel savings to justify lowering a truck.
 

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What's the point of answering this question for him, it's his truck, stay out of it, and you are wrong on better handling, thanks for being his mommy.
Cause you apparently can't read,he already said why he wanted to lower "his" truck. Yea i don't think i'm wrong at all on better handling.Matter of physics there bud,you should maybe do some research on the principles involved with the center of gravity,before you make comments about handling. You still haven't answered the question on why you asked such a dumb question,you asked your stupid question with the idea of giving the young guy a hard time,so suck it up there princess,lol
 

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Exactly bro lol.. it rains maybe 7 times out the year, I never go off-roading or anything. I bought it because It was the cheapest 5.7 Single cab ram I could find and it has autostick manual mode on it so its pretty fun to drive lmao.
Yer ride, yer $$$$, do what makes you happy. Life is short. Hmmmmm, so is dis Boird, never was into weather forecasting (sic), (ie., under 6' tall).
 

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This is an Internet discussion. You can ask anything. Quit being so thin skinned.

Maybe the OP has the inside scoop that the rest of us hadn't considered. This wouldn't be the first time something was not what it appeared. I also question why you'd want to lower a truck when you can go buy a Challenger, but people do weird stuff all the time.

If I was going to lower a truck, I'd go to AirRide Technologies in Jasper Indiana, and do it up right. The dude that started AirRide is a big ol boy, and he wanted a truck that he could easily get in and out of, yet raise it back up when needed.

And BTW, you aren't ever going to recoup enough fuel savings to justify lowering a truck.
This coming from another guy with a lifted truck,with bigger then stock tires. BTW how do you justify the milege drop you encounter with lifting a truck,and running taller/heavier tires then stock. Why not buy a 3500 if you're going to lift a 1500. The majority of lifted trucks are pavement princess's,that compensate for the owners lack of self esteem and other things they may be lacking,you get the hint,lol. Always gotta be those guys,and they seem to like to pick on guys who want to do things their way. Do you see him or me picking on your stupid idea of lifting a truck,which i personally think is the dumbest thing you can do to a 4X4 1500,buy a bigger truck,that has the axles and suspension to handle a bigger stock tire,and give you more ground clearance ;):rolleyes: I don't see any of the lowered guys on the lifted forum,asking dumb questions,like why would you lift a 1500,when you can go buy a 3500.Which is what the lifted guys always ask on a 4X4 lowering thread,or they make dumb comments about buying a Challenger.
 
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This coming from another guy with a lifted truck,with bigger then stock tires. BTW how do you justify the milege drop you encounter with lifting a truck,and running taller/heavier tires then stock. Why not buy a 3500 if you're going to lift a 1500. The majority of lifted trucks are pavement princess's,that compensate for the owners lack of self esteem and other things they may be lacking,you get the hint,lol. Always gotta be those guys,and they seem to like to pick on guys who want to do things their way. Do you see him or me picking on your stupid idea of lifting a truck,which i personally think is the dumbest thing you can do to a 4X4 1500,buy a bigger truck,that has the axles and suspension to handle a bigger stock tire,and give you more ground clearance ;):rolleyes: I don't see any of the lowered guys on the lifted forum,asking dumb questions,like why would you lift a 1500,when you can go buy a 3500.Which is what the lifted guys always ask on a 4X4 lowering thread,or they make dumb comments about buying a Challenger.BTW i own a Challenger and a lowered 4X4,and the lowered 4X4 looks better then the lifted 4X4 1500's,lol
 

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Air ride technology change their name to ride tech. Google it. They have, if nothing else a lot of pictures of really cool vehicles.

I am all for guys raising and lowering their vehicles. Because they have to order parts, which get delivered by UPS. Keeps us UPS drivers fed. L O L.
 

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What's the point of answering this question for him, it's his truck, stay out of it, and you are wrong on better handling, thanks for being his mommy.

I was with you up until ‘wrong on better handling”.

That in itself is a false statement. By lowering the center of gravity you are changing the dynamics of weight distribution and placing it to where it’s most beneficial….. the wheels.

”Wild one” is correct in his statement.

How many “lifted” formula one (F1) cars have you ever seen….. let alone win a race ? :waytogo:

If I want to go around the racetrack fast…… I’ll be driving a BMW or Porsche. If I want to drive over the track…. I’ll be in my Ram :waytogo::waytogo:
 

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Haha I knew this one was coming just not this quick. Im more into the lowered truck scene, performance trucks. In my opinion i think single cab trucks look ridiculous lifted. Love lifted trucks just not single cabs.
Yeah, know what you mean. But if you are really interested into making a RAM truck a screamer I would say trade it for a 2wd RAM. A 4wd is about 350 lbs heavier so that is like having a really fat guy riding with you all the time. I doubt if there are any aftermarket goodies for lowering a 4wd.
 

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Despite the bashing this thread is super helpful. I also have a RCSB 4x4 that I've considered lowering.
Why would I want to trade or sell it after I've already done a bunch of mods, not to mention it's paid for... it would be crazy to not keep it and continue to mod it the way I want. Also RCSBs are hard to find around here. Perhaps the OP is in a similar boat.
 

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I have a lowered 4x4 and I’m from Vegas. But I travel the country for work and have to deal with Ice,snow, rain if I’m working in those states. Not every 4x4 has to be a jacked up douche mobile

Ohhh yea and my truck handles great. Easily do 90mph through gorges with zero issues
 

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Op if you check out ihcsuspension.com I believe their is a 3/5 kit
 

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Yeah, know what you mean. But if you are really interested into making a RAM truck a screamer I would say trade it for a 2wd RAM. A 4wd is about 350 lbs heavier so that is like having a really fat guy riding with you all the time. I doubt if there are any aftermarket goodies for lowering a 4wd.
Roughly 180 lbs,not 350 lbs. Front diff /front driveshaft and axles are just under 120 lbs,and the transfer case is just over 55lbs. You can unbolt the majority of the 4X4 front end parts in a couple hours,and lose 120 lbs,leaving you with only a 55 lb transfer case. There's lots of outfits building 4X4 lowering kits. You can't find a 2 wheel drive regular cab shortbox where i live,so i made my own,lol. Plus if you want to modify an 8 speed RCSB the 4X4's still use a normal driveshaft with a slip yoke,bypassing the big expense of having to replace an 8 speed 2X4 RCSB's driveshaft,before it self destructs and breaks alot of expensive stuff,like the transmission. I put up with a pile of shhit when i pulled all the 4X4 pieces out of my truck 8 years ago,(when it was new),from guys telling me it couldn't be done,or the front wheels would fall off etc.,so i don't have much patience for guys that have never done the same thing,but know everything about it.After i pionered removing the 4X4 parts,there's a fair number of 4X4's running around now,missing the front 4X4 pieces,if your 4X4 is a pavement princess,why pack around the front end pieces,when they can easily be removed,and re-installed when you decide to sell or trade the truck off. 7 bolts hold the front diff in place,it's not rocket science to unbolt it,lol
 

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Roughly 180 lbs,not 350 lbs. Front diff /front driveshaft and axles are just under 120 lbs,and the transfer case is just over 55lbs. You can unbolt the majority of the 4X4 front end parts in a couple hours,and lose 120 lbs,leaving you with only a 55 lb transfer case. There's lots of outfits building 4X4 lowering kits. You can't find a 2 wheel drive regular cab shortbox where i live,so i made my own,lol. Plus if you want to modify an 8 speed RCSB the 4X4's still use a normal driveshaft with a slip yoke,bypassing the big expense of having to replace an 8 speed 2X4 RCSB's driveshaft,before it self destructs and breaks alot of expensive stuff,like the transmission. I put up with a pile of shhit when i pulled all the 4X4 pieces out of my truck 8 years ago,(when it was new),from guys telling me it couldn't be done,or the front wheels would fall off etc.,so i don't have much patience for guys that have never done the same thing,but know everything about it.After i pionered removing the 4X4 parts,there's a fair number of 4X4's running around now,missing the front 4X4 pieces,if your 4X4 is a pavement princess,why pack around the front end pieces,when they can easily be removed,and re-installed when you decide to sell or trade the truck off. 7 bolts hold the front diff in place,it's not rocket science to unbolt it,lol
U mean U did not get a set of "destructions" to follow? :rolleyes::joke: OH, I forgot, guys neva read (what Momma said). I just stay stock on my 4 X 4, but then I have to go out in fields and pull a trailer loaded with hay and such, and a 4 X 2 neva do it in wet stuff. But, building down a 4 X 4 interesting indeed.
 

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U mean U did not get a set of "destructions" to follow? :rolleyes::joke: OH, I forgot, guys neva read (what Momma said). I just stay stock on my 4 X 4, but then I have to go out in fields and pull a trailer loaded with hay and such, and a 4 X 2 neva do it in wet stuff. But, building down a 4 X 4 interesting indeed.
My truck was going to be a pavement princess/dragstrip toy right from the day i bought it,so i didn't see any need to wear out the front end 4X4 parts. At the time i was actually looking for an R/T , i had the local dealer do a search for one,and at that time,there wasn't a new one available in Canada,so i basically made my own. There were lots of regular cab shortbox 4X4's available,so that's what i ended up buying.Now i'm glad there wasn't an R/T available,as back then the regular cab shortbox 8 speed 2 wheel drives driveshaft issues hadn't reared it's ugly head yet.
 

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Roughly 180 lbs,not 350 lbs. Front diff /front driveshaft and axles are just under 120 lbs,and the transfer case is just over 55lbs. You can unbolt the majority of the 4X4 front end parts in a couple hours,and lose 120 lbs,leaving you with only a 55 lb transfer case. There's lots of outfits building 4X4 lowering kits. You can't find a 2 wheel drive regular cab shortbox where i live,so i made my own,lol. Plus if you want to modify an 8 speed RCSB the 4X4's still use a normal driveshaft with a slip yoke,bypassing the big expense of having to replace an 8 speed 2X4 RCSB's driveshaft,before it self destructs and breaks alot of expensive stuff,like the transmission. I put up with a pile of shhit when i pulled all the 4X4 pieces out of my truck 8 years ago,(when it was new),from guys telling me it couldn't be done,or the front wheels would fall off etc.,so i don't have much patience for guys that have never done the same thing,but know everything about it.After i pioneered removing the 4X4 parts,there's a fair number of 4X4's running around now,missing the front 4X4 pieces,if your 4X4 is a pavement princess,why pack around the front end pieces,when they can easily be removed,and re-installed when you decide to sell or trade the truck off. 7 bolts hold the front diff in place,it's not rocket science to unbolt it,lol
I was comparing the curb weights of the 2011 RAM 120" WB 4x2 at 4548 lb and the same in 4x4 at 4881 lb. It shows a 333 lbs weight difference. Don't know what other chassis differences this takes into account.
I make this point because when it comes to performance weight makes all the difference in the world. My '14 RAM weights in at almost 5500 lbs. That is a freaking battleship from the performance standpoint.
Still at 400 crank HP it could POTENTIALLY turn the quarter mile at in 14.5. Not to bad.
But but transplant the Hemi into my '72 Satellite with would then weight 3400 lbs; (hemi is 25 lbs lighter than the 318); it could potentially turn the quarter at 12.4 seconds. Anyone for a Hemi swap? :)


 
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I was comparing the curb weights of the 2011 RAM 120" WB 4x2 at 4548 lb and the same in 4x4 at 4881 lb. It shows a 333 lbs weight difference. Don't know what other chassis differences this takes into account.
I make this point because when it comes to performance weight makes all the difference in the world. My '14 RAM weights in at almost 5500 lbs. That is a freaking battleship from the performance standpoint.

MY 2019 is at 5,600 lbs unloaded. Not a drag truck, more like a GG and driveway princess. Stock except for tonneau cover, Falkens shoes and better air cleaner.
 

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I was comparing the curb weights of the 2011 RAM 120" WB 4x2 at 4548 lb and the same in 4x4 at 4881 lb. It shows a 333 lbs weight difference. Don't know what other chassis differences this takes into account.
I make this point because when it comes to performance weight makes all the difference in the world. My '14 RAM weights in at almost 5500 lbs. That is a freaking battleship from the performance standpoint.
Still at 400 crank HP it could POTENTIALLY turn the quarter mile at in 14.5. Not to bad.
But but transplant the Hemi into my '72 Satellite with would then weight 3400 lbs; (hemi is 25 lbs lighter than the 318); it could potentially turn the quarter at 12.4 seconds. Anyone for a Hemi swap? :)


We ran my buddies 2015 R/T and my 2014 Sport 4X4 across the scales back to back and there was 200 lbs differance between the trucks. We filled both trucks with fuel then drove them to the scale and weighed them back to back. Both trucks are virtually identical trucks as far as options go,both fully loaded with interior options,except my truck had the factory sliding rear window and 20" rims ,while his had the standard flat glass back window and 22" rms.
 
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