Shoddy Repair Work

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docdave78

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I picked up my truck in July/Aug 2020, 2020 Ram Classic Warlock QC 4x4 5.7L, but during the initial paperwork the dealer pointed out that the roof panel had two dents where it was damaged on the carrier, probably lowered a section to far. Dealer said that they would fix it and because of where it was and the extent of the damage the body shop would replace the skin.

I picked up the truck a few weeks later and drive it for a while before I had to take it back in in October 2020 because the inner headliner is vibrating and the map lights are blown. It gets fixed and all is good.

Fast forward to March 2022 and as I'm cleaning my windshield I jump up on my running boards and notice that the paint where the damage was has a big scratch, but upon closer look, its not a scratch, but a crack in the paint.

I call the dealer to get this fixed, "We'll get it in at the end of the month becomes, April, becomes May, after repeated calls I can get it finally the first week of June.

For my own curiosity, I run a simple fridge magnet over the room panel and it sticks everywhere, but the place where the damage was originally. Come to find out, the body shop never replaced the roof skin, they slapped down some Bondo and painted over it.

The dealer has agreed to repair the paint issue and they don't use this shop anymore.

Here's the deal, the dealer is claiming that they can't treat it as warranty because they can't go back to the same shop because they stopped using them as a vendor, fine, that's not my problem, they are going to fix it anyways, but I've asked for a loaner or a rental because I can't be without a vehicle for 7 days. Dealer claims that because they can't do it under warranty I need to find my own transportation. I reject that argument because the repair wasn't done right the first time, a lot of haggling and he asks me to meet him half way and cover half the cost of a rental. I again refuse, now it has to go to his manager. So here I am with a bad paint job on a 2 year old lease with 16k on the odometer which needs to get fixed and a dealer that is not giving me a loaner to fix their problem. Given the car market I don't know if I'll be leasing again in a year or buying this truck.

Am I in the wrong here for wanting a loaner/rental on the dealerships dime?

Should the body shop have replace the roof skin? I doubt that they even worked the metal to reshape it as much as was needed before skimming it too. In one of the attached pictures with the rib on the left you can see the raised oval under the split where the Bondo doesn't even appear to be flush with the panel.

This is a Rhode Island dealer and if I don't get resolution from the dealer I need to go to a regional rep, how would I find that out?

Thanks everyone!
 

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turkeybird56

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Hate to say it: see only 2 resolutions:

1) Elevate way up to top tier FCA management (and hope)
2) Legal recourse

Doubt the dealership gonna do ne thing to satisfy you. IMHO their excuse not work at all, but just my observation.


CAVEAT: When I bought MY 19, it had a small dent in the left rear door, right in the middle in the crease, not bad but noticeable. SO I got 2 options:

1) They fix (probably PDR work, but in a bad spot)
2) Get some credit on stuff and work> I chose: Got free TT controls/installed/free install on side steps. Figured I could live with the 'dent" as it could happen any time, any where especially in a parking lot with door dings, shopping carts etc. But that was my personal choice.
 

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Do you have the paperwork from the repair ? If so does it say they replaced the skin ,or repaired it.
 

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Get rid of that truck as soon as the issue is resolved. Lots of Rams get water leaks anyway, and a damaged/repaired roof is a leak waiting to happen IMO.
 
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I'm waiting to hear back from the dealership on the loaner/rental car.
Unfortunately I don't have the paperwork for the repair since the dealership took care of it before I picked up the truck, they let me continue to drive my old one until it was ready.

I only have another year on the lease, Sept 2023, before I need to figure out my next step, hoping to go for a 1500 Crew Cab w/regular box as a long term truck. I had my 04 for 13 years before I had to get another one as maintenance was getting to be too much $$ and I leased a '17 for 3 years.
 

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"I only have another year on the lease"

Holy crap make sure you document your conversations with the dealer on this very well or you'll end up paying for it at the end of your lease.
 

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The fix looks worse than the original damage. That sucks.

Hope you get it all worked out.
 

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That's some novice work I must say. I'm lost for words.

Maybe @RamCares can help ya.
 

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The fix looks worse than the original damage. That sucks.

Hope you get it all worked out.
Right?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I would have either not taken the truck, or taken it as-is with a discount for the roof situation.

Replacing the roof skin is a big job and I wouldn't want that being done by an average shop.

Insurance body work or dealer repair bodywork is always done to a price point.
 

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I picked up my truck in July/Aug 2020, 2020 Ram Classic Warlock QC 4x4 5.7L, but during the initial paperwork the dealer pointed out that the roof panel had two dents where it was damaged on the carrier, probably lowered a section to far. Dealer said that they would fix it and because of where it was and the extent of the damage the body shop would replace the skin.

I picked up the truck a few weeks later and drive it for a while before I had to take it back in in October 2020 because the inner headliner is vibrating and the map lights are blown. It gets fixed and all is good.

Fast forward to March 2022 and as I'm cleaning my windshield I jump up on my running boards and notice that the paint where the damage was has a big scratch, but upon closer look, its not a scratch, but a crack in the paint.

I call the dealer to get this fixed, "We'll get it in at the end of the month becomes, April, becomes May, after repeated calls I can get it finally the first week of June.

For my own curiosity, I run a simple fridge magnet over the room panel and it sticks everywhere, but the place where the damage was originally. Come to find out, the body shop never replaced the roof skin, they slapped down some Bondo and painted over it.

The dealer has agreed to repair the paint issue and they don't use this shop anymore.

Here's the deal, the dealer is claiming that they can't treat it as warranty because they can't go back to the same shop because they stopped using them as a vendor, fine, that's not my problem, they are going to fix it anyways, but I've asked for a loaner or a rental because I can't be without a vehicle for 7 days. Dealer claims that because they can't do it under warranty I need to find my own transportation. I reject that argument because the repair wasn't done right the first time, a lot of haggling and he asks me to meet him half way and cover half the cost of a rental. I again refuse, now it has to go to his manager. So here I am with a bad paint job on a 2 year old lease with 16k on the odometer which needs to get fixed and a dealer that is not giving me a loaner to fix their problem. Given the car market I don't know if I'll be leasing again in a year or buying this truck.

Am I in the wrong here for wanting a loaner/rental on the dealerships dime?

Should the body shop have replace the roof skin? I doubt that they even worked the metal to reshape it as much as was needed before skimming it too. In one of the attached pictures with the rib on the left you can see the raised oval under the split where the Bondo doesn't even appear to be flush with the panel.

This is a Rhode Island dealer and if I don't get resolution from the dealer I need to go to a regional rep, how would I find that out?

Thanks everyone!
Hi,
We would like to look into this situation further for you and see if there is any opportunity to assist. Please feel free to send our team a private message with additional details.

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That's some novice work I must say. I'm lost for words.

Maybe @RamCares can help ya.
Thank you for the tag!
 

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WOAH, THATS A LOT OF FILLER! You have every right to expect a loaner during this recall of a bad repair. That could have been massaged then repaired quite easily. I personally wouldn't have recommended a new skin for that. For that to lift within a year of repair??? That's nuts!
 

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It's a lease. I'd say it's their ******* problem when you turn it in. They fixed it, they ****** it up, it's their problem to deal with when they get the vehicle back at the end of the lease.

Drive that **** until the lease ends. If the roof rots in the meantime not your problem. Not now anyways.

Then go find another dealer for your next vehicle.
 
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