CHRYSLER HEMI ENGINE TICKING NOISE CAUSES LAWSUIT

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2020PW, nowhere did I say I was lookin for a payout, comprehend a little more next time. No one else has shared this so figured I’d share. At least it’s finally getting some attention.

Seen mention of royal purple filters. I’m switching to Puralator Boss once I finish my OLDER RP filters. I posted about it a while ago why I’m making the switch and wouldn’t recommend them now: Thread 'DO NOT BUY RP 10-47!!!!'

???? The title says lawsuit, the link is pertaining to a lawsuit. What is there to comprehend about pertaining to a lawsuit?

You ever think think about using a OEM filter. Why can’t anyone comprehend that a company designed an engine to operate in a specific manner and conditions, they found a oil filter that accomplished this and hence why it’s a OEM oil filter.

Do we need more RP oil filter or any other oil filter threads?
 
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You ever think think about using a OEM filter. Why can’t anyone comprehend that a company designed an engine to operate in a specific manner and conditions, they found a oil filter that accomplished this and hence why it’s a OEM oil filter.
Yes they had the perfect filter, then for no known reason they downsized, and now those filters are throwing codes in many trucks and ticking in others, when people move to the larger filter, hooray no codes and "sometimes" no ticking. This exact thing has to do with the ticking in this thread, if you read the first post instead of just the title, op wanted a broad discussion.

The OP brought the smaller filter into discussion, of which stellar information proceeded to inform him.
 

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Yes they had the perfect filter, then for no known reason they downsized, and now those filters are throwing codes in many trucks and ticking in others, when people move to the larger filter, hooray no codes and "sometimes" no ticking.

?? Run OEM filters along with the correct oil weight and change interval will correct the problems.

After market filters seem to be the problem.

Higher micron filtration equals flow restriction which creates bypass if the bypass is set at the same pressure relief. What is the flow and pressure relief difference between OEM and third party filters.

AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filter Temporarily Not Recommended for Select Ram and GM Applications​

March 4, 2021 - Announcement


AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filter Temporarily Not Recommended for Select Ram and GM Applications
We are no longer recommending the AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filter for 2007-2013 GM vehicles with the 5.3L engine and 2013-current Ram vehicles with the 5.7L or 6.4L engines. There is no cause for alarm if you or one of your customers is using the EA15K50 Filter with one of the listed vehicles; we are acting out of an abundance of caution. We have sold thousands of AMSOIL EA15K50 Oil Filters to customers with one of the GM or Ram engines listed above. A very small percentage of those customers have reported gauges or check-engine lights indicating slightly lower than normal oil pressure.

Our industry-leading high-efficiency media removes more particles of smaller sizes than most competing filters to better prevent engine wear. In the GM and Ram applications listed, the EA15K50 Filter is capturing a large number of deposits and reaching its holding capacity before the end of its recommended service life in a small number of instances. This can result in reduced flow and overall oil pressure, but in no way harms the engine. AMSOIL Oil Filters include a bypass relief valve to ensure appropriate oil volume is always delivered to critical components.

Rather than cause some customers unnecessary concern, we are recommending the WIX 57060 or Donaldson P550794 in place of the EA15K50 in 2007-2013 GM 5.3L engines and 2013-current Ram 5.7L and 6.4L engines. They are high-quality filters, but will not capture as many small particles as the AMSOIL Oil Filter does, and they are designed for shorter service intervals.

Watch the Dealer Zone for updates. If you have questions, contact Technical Services at [email protected] or (715) 399-TECH.

FAQ

I used the EA15K50 Oil Filter with one of the affected GM or Ram engines before. Can I continue to do so?

Yes, but it should be changed at the vehicle manufacturer’s recommended change interval. We no longer recommend this filter for up to 15,000 miles in these engines.

Did using the EA15K50 Oil Filter harm my vehicle?
No. The filter includes a bypass relief valve to ensure appropriate oil volume is always delivered to critical components.

Can I still practice extended drain intervals with Signature Series Synthetic Motor Oil in these engines?
Yes, but only if you change the WIX or Donaldson filter at the manufacturer’s recommended service interval and top off the oil after the filter change.

Is there any benefit to using Signature Series Synthetic Motor Oil if I don’t want to change filters to get extended drain intervals?
Yes, Signature Series contains a robust package of detergents and dispersants to protect against the deposits produced by these engines.

What can I do to combat these oil deposits?
We recommend using Signature Series Synthetic Motor Oil and changing the WIX or Donaldson filter at the manufacturer’s recommended interval. We also recommend using AMSOIL Engine and Transmission Flush (FLSH) every-other oil change.

Will AMSOIL offer another extended drain filter for these engines?
We are conducting additional research and development with the goal of once again supplying a high-efficiency, extended-life filtration option.
 

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Have 125,000 on mine ... regular oil changes at the dealer (4-5,000 miles). Send samples to Brookstone labs. Last result was "another perfect report."

Thinking most problems are poor maintenance ...
I’m beyond **** when it comes to my truck. So poor maintenance is not an issue. Not when it happens right after one oil change that is under 6k miles on full synthetic. There’s an issue with the hemi and everyone knows it. Some people get Monday and Friday builds and have issues when others don’t.
 

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Why should you have to be chemical scientist to keep your vehicle running on the road . Trying to figure out what oil and additives to use. It's a truck for God sakes not a race car . My 2018 big horn went from a tick, to bad lifters, to a damage camshaft to spending over 4000 dollars to be repaired . Meanwhile my daily driver who doesn't care what kind of oil you put in it runs with no problems with over 180000 miles on it go figure
 

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I'm thinking that the Hemi tick was present long before the MDS was added.
You're correct. If you search older threads you'll see complaints about initial tick on cold starts on 3rd gen Rams.

There was a 2007 Ram 1500 in the family that had the "hemi tick" soon after purchase. It was later sold intra-family and the second owner solved the issue for the rest of the time it lived by changing oil filter brands.

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2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, factory dual exhaust, 18” wheels. Build date: 3 June 2018. Now at 70188miles
 

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The smaller filter makes it possible to change from below as the electric steering box is in the way for the big filters. To run the MO-899 size filter I have to reach in from front- radiator back. There is a tunnel/lane the big filters can be taken to reach the oil filter flange.
Can you explain in more detail? Are you going in with the filter from the top? Think your method would work with air suspension? I would like to run the larger filter but dang if I can see how to change even the smaller original filter!
 

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My 2 cents . I have a 04 Q cab 5.7. I’ve got 287000 Miles on engine . 100000. More on truck . As valve seat dropped on original engine at 161000.replaced with a 50000.mile used engine. Always stock filter. It’s a small filter . Always castrol oil 15-40 . Same as the diesel. That’s what owners manual says. However I place a heavy magnet on the filter .Bought truck with 3 miles on it. I ran 20-50 a few times without issue. I’m in SE Texas (hot). This engine always had a lil tic. As did the original. The stock oil filter seems to work fine. Also my rule of thumb is to change oil at every 7000miles because it holds 7quarts. 1000 miles per quart. Just want to add , replaced thermostat with a 180 to avoid valve seat issue. Also I run castrol oil because in the 90’s amsoil & others had comparison charts comparing oils . & they changed the weights tested against to make it seem there oil was better . Ex. 1 test was 40w but 2nd test was changed to 30w. 1 was thermo break down the other was viscosity .
 

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Can you explain in more detail? Are you going in with the filter from the top? Think your method would work with air suspension? I would like to run the larger filter but dang if I can see how to change even the smaller original filter!
Get under truck from front. Reach up behind radiator and straight back along right side of engine and above cross member . You have to drain oil with catch that funnels it into drain pan, or a gallon size ziplock around filter.
 

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My 2 cents . I have a 04 Q cab 5.7. I’ve got 287000 Miles on engine . 100000. More on truck . As valve seat dropped on original engine at 161000.replaced with a 50000.mile used engine. Always stock filter. It’s a small filter . Always castrol oil 15-40 . Same as the diesel. That’s what owners manual says. However I place a heavy magnet on the filter .Bought truck with 3 miles on it. I ran 20-50 a few times without issue. I’m in SE Texas (hot). This engine always had a lil tic. As did the original. The stock oil filter seems to work fine. Also my rule of thumb is to change oil at every 7000miles because it holds 7quarts. 1000 miles per quart. Just want to add , replaced thermostat with a 180 to avoid valve seat issue. Also I run castrol oil because in the 90’s amsoil & others had comparison charts comparing oils . & they changed the weights tested against to make it seem there oil was better . Ex. 1 test was 40w but 2nd test was changed to 30w. 1 was thermo break down the other was viscosity .
In my 05 I used 5w40 Rotella T6 (diesel oil with a gas API ratings at the time) with a pure one oil filter, never did have lifter problems or noise, so wonder if anyone here has tried the newer 5w30 Rotella T6.
 

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Can you explain in more detail? Are you going in with the filter from the top? Think your method would work with air suspension? I would like to run the larger filter but dang if I can see how to change even the smaller original filter!
I always go in from the front when changing the oil filter. I pull up on my ramps, block the rear tire just for added safety and go under the front of the truck on the right side, looking to rear of truck it would be on your left side. With your back facing the radiator and looking towards the filter, you have a direct shot to the oil filter. Hope this helps
 

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What are the additives that one can purchase over the counter to help with the potential issues? I've run pennzoil ultra platinum from day 1 bc I read early on that it had a good amount of moly in the oil. No idea if its true and would be curious to know if there are some after market additives that can be added to my oil and oil changes to help.
I use Z Max and have for many years. I believe that it is some of the best stuff,in my opinion. I use it in my’14 Ram,my’13 Chrysler 300 and my’92 Nissan 4x4 which has 245k on it. I put it in every oil change. You can get jugs on Amazon,or just buy the small containers at your auto parts store or Walmart.
 

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Just remember as with ANY engine, idling is your enemy. The lifters don’t get enough lubrication when idling and not getting the rpm’s above 2000, so DRIVE your truck and try not to sit idling if you want to avoid the Hemi tick. Even doing this though there’s a chance you’ll still get it, it’s the fatal flaw in these engines.
 

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I have some relief. I found that the passenger side top, rear bolt on the shield on the headers is broken off. So it’s an exhaust leak issue which is common and nothing internal. Highly relieved. Guess I should look at some new headers now. Darnnnnn.
 

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Surprised took this long. Do not expect any resolve anytime soon. Class action lawsuit against GM for lifter issue has been going on for sometime now.
 

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and TBH nothing may come of it because after all the exact cause is still not 100% known. Am sure has to be proven. Issue for the GM lifter was a known defect in the lifter locking pin made of substandard material.
 

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I was using redline 5W-30 but with the cost of gas and everything else going up I e made the switch to RO 5W-30. I use a RO 20-820 filter and 15oz of biotech lubegard each oil change.

Changed every 5000-6000 miles. Just installed a catch can so we’ll see how it looks
 

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