How can i get better gas mileage

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Lots of comments here echo things I've discovered driving my 2007 1/2 ton...for the past 15 years. Glad I'm not the only one who knows them.

Tires. I think I lost a bit of mpg (maybe 1) going from Firestone Destination LE2s to Cooper Evolutions, but I don't mind 'cuz the Coopers are H rated, which I wanted. And the Coopers are made in USA. :). It's hard to say on the mpg, 'cuz I also went from 275/60s to 275/55s.
Someone mentioned they have 17s. That's the lightest wheel setup, and what Dodge/RAM put on the HFE (high fuel efficiency) edition. The best are these part numbers: OZR75TRMAA; 0ZR76PAKAA. Factory forged 17".

Transmissions. The "new" six speed (65RFE) is the same old 545RFE. (But programmed to use 2P as third.) Save for some HD trucks that got the 66RFE... Slightly better ratios there, but not like the 8-sp. Both an 8-sp auto and a 6-sp manual are worth 2mpg from the research I've done, but you wouldn't expect either swap to pay you back quickly. Why? I figure on AT LEAST $3 grand (w/used tranny) to get either swap done; probably more. So, $3,000 / $5 a gallon = 600 gallons. That's how much you'd have to save to get the payback. 2mpg increase is going to square out to...probably something crazy like 120,000 miles of driving. Could be a while.:bawl::bawl:

Oil. I've always run synthetic since the 1500 mile mark on the odometer. Rolled over 160,000 this month. Generally Mobil 1, in the 5w-30 flavor. I know the manuals call for 5w-20 (even for my 2007), but that's because they are using a slightly thinner oil to squeeze out a little less parasitic pumping loss to improve mpg a teensy bit more. I also run my oil to 7,000 changes. Yes, I did an oil analysis years back, and the oil in my pickup was fine at that point. I still run a FilterMag on the oil filter also.

Radiator fan. Electric will save you some parasitic hp, which means you burn a little less gas. No, I don't have an exact figure.

Underdrive pulley. According to ATI, theirs is worth 8-10hp at the crank. 5-8hp if you do not have a clutch fan.

Thermostat. You have to be mindful of the PCM programming here. Too cold, and it'll always think it's the in warm up cycle...and enrich the mixture. :eek: The opposite is also an issue. The engine gets warm enough, and the PCM starts pulling timing. I think I'm encountering that now, as my radiator won't hold much pressure. I see temps 203-210 regularly right now. Got a 100% aluminum radiator with welded tanks on order... I also ordered a FlowKooler water pump, but didn't install it once I saw the radiator was leaking.

Aerodynamics. First off, the frontal area of our pickups, at least my 07, is 34 sq ft. A full sheet of plywood is 32 sq ft (4ft x 8 ft). So, that's like pushing the proverbial barn door down the road. And, with a 3rd gen, the aerodynamics suck even more, save for the SRT models. Look up drag coefficients...
Someone mentioned a tonneau cover; yes, that does help. I think it's worth 1mpg on the highway. A bed topper does the same, but since they weigh more, you use more fuel when climbing hills. I've tried it both ways in drives up and down I-44 through Missouri.
Wheel covers. Remember the old moon eyes wheel covers? Those do help. I have some (homemade ones) on my pickup. Another 1mpg on the highway. In fact, per the NACA article mentioned earlier...they probably take effect at or near 48mph, if I had to guess.
I also have most of the belly covered from the front bumper to the rear muffler. It's not a monster gain, but probably another 1mpg highway.

Fuel. Can you get 100% gas? E-10 drops about 10% on fuel mileage. In my highway testing, with a tune adjustment, I saw another 1.5mpg with a 91 tune over an 87 tune. 91 and 87 octane fuels used respectively. E-85? Ouch, count on a 30% drop. And...your fuel system needs to be designed for it, or it will eat up the seals.

Cruise control. Do not use it on hills. Talk about chug-a-lug fuel. (How do I know? I have a fuel flow meter.) Hit the cancel button with your foot positioned so you can maintain the speed you are at...and as you climb the hill try to only let the pickup lose about 5mph or so while climbing. Some hills in MO, CO, and UT you really can't do that, but most you can. You can pick the speed back up on the other side.

Injectors. Depends on what you have to start with. My 07 had 4-hole injectors; I upgraded to Bosch 12-holes, but think radiator/heat issues are preventing me from seeing any gain. They must atomize fuel better, because I get a CEL regularly that complains about being too rich.

Driving habits. Most certainly! As they say one the Ecomodder forum "Adjust the nut behind the wheel." Don't launch hard at every stoplight. Don't panic brake. Some say to drive like there's an egg under the throttle. Coast! I sometimes can coast 1/4 to 1/2 mile before I have to hit the brakes for a full stop. True, the engine is running, but it's only burning about 1/3 to 1/4 of what it does when you've got your foot on the gas. Another phase is "Driving without brakes." You do have brakes, but act like you do not, or don't want to use them. **I do NOT advocate shutting the engine off and coasting. ** Too much can go wrong with that.

Yes, these apply to any vehicle. Yes, your mileage WILL vary. With my cooling system running right, I've seen 21mpg highway at 70mph. On a 600mile trip. If I could get it to 25mpg, I could go without a refuel!

Real gas is common in Okla. Cost on average .25 a gallon more than alcohol gas. Makes it alot better for fueling you cycles, mowers, ATVs and yard tools.

People who do not drive alot need real gas. The ethanol separates from gas at around 40 days. Looks like skim milk in the fuel. Totally screws up aluminum carbs on motorcycles, ATVs and other tools.
 

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I live in semi hilly area. I turned off the MDS and my mileage on dash has increased 1.5 mpg. When time for gas I will calculate at pump. 2019 Classic Bighorn 5.7 3.21 275/65/20 ATs this truck should come from factory with 34" tires!
 

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If you're concerned about gas mpg then buy a 4 cylinder or an electric vehicle. I run an 05 Ram 5.7 Hemi Auto w/ 3.92s. Tow package. I am not pinching for every mile per gallon i can get more of , I just drive/ tow. If gas prices were what they were a year ago or lower, many wouldnt even be posting about trying to get better mpg. You bought a big truck, so low mpg comes standard with it ! Enjoy the ride.
 

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I don't see a problem with trying to eek out the best mpg possible with my 3.6 Pentastar. Perhaps it is age or wanting to save some $, but being retired, I find slowing down and "parking in the slow lane" to be enjoyable. My '17 Laramie weighs 6000 lbs. with a full tank and me. Our little town seems to have some of the most expensive gas in the area. I get to the "big city" at least weekly and top off at Costco usually saving between 20 to 35 cents per gallon. My drive home is a 20 mile 55mph highway with 7 traffic signals. Driving between 53 & 55 mph the computer consistently shows 27+ mpg when I get home. Last week I had several trips to the city and averaged 24.7mpg for over 135 miles with hand calculation. I have several friends who have Hemi Rams that can't get close to 20mpg but having ridden with them, I know why! A couple years ago I took my daughter to a Chicago airport for a redeye flight. Since we were leaving late at night and it was a weekday, I "parked in the slow lane" and set the cruise at 55. I got 26.5mpg hand calculated for the 320 round mile trip. On the way home, I had several cars pass me several times. Slow and steady isn't all bad and it works for some, but probably not for all.
 

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I don't see a problem with trying to eek out the best mpg possible with my 3.6 Pentastar. Perhaps it is age or wanting to save some $, but being retired, I find slowing down and "parking in the slow lane" to be enjoyable. My '17 Laramie weighs 6000 lbs. with a full tank and me. Our little town seems to have some of the most expensive gas in the area. I get to the "big city" at least weekly and top off at Costco usually saving between 20 to 35 cents per gallon. My drive home is a 20 mile 55mph highway with 7 traffic signals. Driving between 53 & 55 mph the computer consistently shows 27+ mpg when I get home. Last week I had several trips to the city and averaged 24.7mpg for over 135 miles with hand calculation. I have several friends who have Hemi Rams that can't get close to 20mpg but having ridden with them, I know why! A couple years ago I took my daughter to a Chicago airport for a redeye flight. Since we were leaving late at night and it was a weekday, I "parked in the slow lane" and set the cruise at 55. I got 26.5mpg hand calculated for the 320 round mile trip. On the way home, I had several cars pass me several times. Slow and steady isn't all bad and it works for some, but probably not for all.
I agree slowing down is one of the best things you can do for milege.I can routinely pull over 30 mpg from my wifes 6.4 challenger,and our 5.7 300.
 

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I don't see a problem with trying to eek out the best mpg possible with my 3.6 Pentastar. Perhaps it is age or wanting to save some $, but being retired, I find slowing down and "parking in the slow lane" to be enjoyable. My '17 Laramie weighs 6000 lbs. with a full tank and me. Our little town seems to have some of the most expensive gas in the area. I get to the "big city" at least weekly and top off at Costco usually saving between 20 to 35 cents per gallon. My drive home is a 20 mile 55mph highway with 7 traffic signals. Driving between 53 & 55 mph the computer consistently shows 27+ mpg when I get home. Last week I had several trips to the city and averaged 24.7mpg for over 135 miles with hand calculation. I have several friends who have Hemi Rams that can't get close to 20mpg but having ridden with them, I know why! A couple years ago I took my daughter to a Chicago airport for a redeye flight. Since we were leaving late at night and it was a weekday, I "parked in the slow lane" and set the cruise at 55. I got 26.5mpg hand calculated for the 320 round mile trip. On the way home, I had several cars pass me several times. Slow and steady isn't all bad and it works for some, but probably not for all.
When I drive in a similar fashion my numbers are nearly exactly as sweetee has posted. Interesting that our trucks are the same year and model / engine. ( Just sold the 72 standard Beetle ) Even the color! LOL! When I am on a long trip and I drive at 70MPH it will drop. How much depends on the terrain and whether or not there is a wind factor involved. I did lose some mileage when I switched from the factory supplied Goodyear SRA's to the heavier H rated Continental Terrain Contacts.
 
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We just need to adjust the standard……
Im currently getting about 1.2 gallons/day at current rate…:emotions33: lgbfjb.
 

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Best advice seen here: Driving habits. Most certainly! As they say one the Ecomodder forum "Adjust the nut behind the wheel."

Here in Mid-Atlantic, traffic can be heavy at times. I'll add in time your trips for lighter traffic on Interstates.
 

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(Kidding) if you want great gas mileage, buy a Honda Fit.

If you wanted fuel economy, you bought just about the worst vehicle for that lol!

V8 trucks are not fuel efficient even from the factory, once we start putting on lift kits, larger tires, and other accessories that add weight or decrease aerodynamics, the fuel economy suffers.
 

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Vehicle wise, quickest improvement you can make is 1) air up tires to the max pressure recommended, and 2) accelerate easy, and drive a bit slower when possible.

The greatest improvement overall is to combine trips and use a smaller car for long travel.

We do that. If we are driving over 20-30 miles, we hop in our 2017 Ford Fiesta at 40 mpg.
 

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I wasn't looking for fuel mileage when I bought my truck but when fuel prices have gone past ridiculous I'm going to make mine get the best I can. I don't "try" to waste fuel or money. Surely nobody tries to use more fuel?
 
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If you drive the average 15,000 miles per year, and your vehicle gets 20 mpg, you are paying an extra $42.26 per week (per driver). I'll be fine, but to a young couple who were just getting by 2 years ago, or to a young couple trying to get out of debt, that adds up to a lot of money.

They say there's more oil reserves than we can use for 125 years. We have the means to have cheap fuel, and a roaring economy, yet the powers that be, choose to strangle us economically. Senseless stupidity. The climate has been changing ever since there's been a climate. Frustrating.
 

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If you drive the average 15,000 miles per year, and your vehicle gets 20 mpg, you are paying an extra $42.26 per week (per driver). I'll be fine, but to a young couple who were just getting by 2 years ago, or to a young couple trying to get out of debt, that adds up to a lot of money.

They say there's more oil reserves than we can use for 125 years. We have the means to have cheap fuel, and a roaring economy, yet the powers that be, choose to strangle us economically. Senseless stupidity. The climate has been changing ever since there's been a climate. Frustrating.
IMHO, and since it’s now being called a transition, “they” are trying to force us to get electric vehicles. It’s going to hurt the young family driving a 12 year old Honda Accord telling them the need to spend big bucks on an EV and install a home charger.
 

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Bull !!!!! It’s just not possible to be easy on the gas pedal in a 6.4 challenger!
Sometimes you gotta slow down so you can check out what the neighbours are doing,lol. We do have lots of roads where you can find the top end though,one of these days i'll have to see what her Challenger will do with the limiter removed,lol. It was limited to 271kms/ 168 mph with the limiter in place,but i think it'll do a bit more now,:Big Laugh:
 

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Traffic speeds in residential areas are conceptual you don’t have to drive 25 or 30 mph I drive 10 to 20 I think at idle my truck rolls at 6 mph
On the Hwy I keep at posted speeds or bellow ,
“..the average risk of severe injury for a pedestrian struck by a vehicle reaches 10% at an impact speed of 16 mph, 25% at 23 mph, 50% at 31 mph, 75% at 39 mph, and 90% at 46 mph. The average risk of death for a pedestrian reaches 10% at an impact speed of 23 mph, 25% at 32 mph, 50% at 42 mph, 75% at 50 mph, and 90% at 58 mph. Risks vary significantly by age. For example, the average risk of severe injury or death for a 70‐year old pedestrian struck by a car traveling at 25 mph is similar to the risk for a 30‐year‐old pedestrian struck at 35 mph. a 65
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You’ll save gas and save on your insurance and sleep better at night.

In general if you want better gas conservation drive less or don’t drive.

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I don’t follow certain members for obvious reasons and I think it is ironic I posted what seemed as a retort without effort.. by all accounts it wasn’t intentional sorry if I ruffled some feathers… nah not really
 
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Well……..I spent the day gently massaging my girls big hips, finally giving her the lovin she was desperate for…..and saved fuel doing it! (Gave her a bath, and a rub down with the slippery stuff).
 
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