STOCK UP ON DEF __ SHORTAGE AND HIGHER PRICES COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GTyankee said:

it would be like storing DEF right next to the hot water heater, not good.

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Maybe an old school gravity furnace. Today's modern hot water tanks are well insulated and very little to no heat radiates from the sides of them.

2012RAM1500RT said:

This is why I don't believe 80% of what the drama media say. They are more interested in ratings than they are your life!

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As the saying goes: If you don't watch the news your uninformed, if you watch the news your misinformed.

gfh77665 said:

I like the way he used excessive exclamation points

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Makes it all seem that much more urgent, I suppose.

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I'm glad you apprciate the thought I put into the post. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Total BS as DEF is simply a urea and water solution and is made in the USA and not shipped in on a boat. DEF has a storage life of about 6 months and a gallon of DEF is enough for 95 gallons of diesel with any truck. If someone has a pickup they are getting 15 mpg or better and so one gallon of DEF is enough to drive 1,425 miles.

But on the other hand we are running out of brains in this country and fewer and fewer people are able to use what little they have. Now this is a serious shortage.

Elkman said:

Total BS as DEF is simply a urea and water solution and is made in the USA and not shipped in on a boat. DEF has a storage life of about 6 months and a gallon of DEF is enough for 95 gallons of diesel with any truck. If someone has a pickup they are getting 15 mpg or better and so one gallon of DEF is enough to drive 1,425 miles.

But on the other hand we are running out of brains in this country and fewer and fewer people are able to use what little they have. Now this is a serious shortage.

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Where do they make brains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like the “work around” the def crisis will get popular again

Elkman said:

But on the other hand we are running out of brains in this country and fewer and fewer people are able to use what little they have. Now this is a serious shortage.

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Are you sure the country is not out of brains and user manuals already? Even if we had enough user manuals, no one would read how to use it.

KoboldTaco said:

Are you sure the country is not out of brains and user manuals already? Even if we had enough user manuals, no one would read how to use it.

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Seems that way get on Facebook ram groups the type of questions people ask. They literally are on a phone capable of a lot and can not type that question into Google which will actually pop up 50 sites with the answer lol.

Dinky said:

Seems that way get on Facebook ram groups the type of questions people ask. They literally are on a phone capable of a lot and can not type that question into Google which will actually pop up 50 sites with the answer lol.

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<rant> I can’t stand Facebook for just that reason. I have an account so I can watch friends and family when it becomes time to do so but that's about it.

You can argue the same thing on here too - new OP flying by to drop a rando question. I try not to judge and at least give it a shot. It is fairly impressive the number of people who do think work such as mechanical repair is easy. And I also get surprised how many folks don't do research on their own. If I look back at some of the questions I am answering, I had the luck to ask someone in person, in local groups and meetups before the internet was the thing it is today.

I also just dove in, and read lots of books - there were always the Chilton and Haynes manuals. That was our internet, our training without formal mechanics school or auto shop.

My first head gasket was replaced on a Dodge minivan. I read the Chiltons manual for the procedure and to purchase the proper tools. I was in my 20s, broke as hell so I could only buy what I exactly needed. I put screws in baggies with stick notes on what it was for - other times with the component I removed.

Last, DEF supply chain issues, well let us just add it to the list of all the messed up ****. Let's not start or contribute to hysteria. At this point, there is little any of us can actually do. </rant>

KoboldTaco said:

<rant> I can’t stand Facebook for just that reason. I have an account so I can watch friends and family when it becomes time to do so but that's about it.

You can argue the same thing on here too - new OP flying by to drop a rando question. I try not to judge and at least give it a shot. It is fairly impressive the number of people who do think work such as mechanical repair is easy. And I also get surprised how many folks don't do research on their own. If I look back at some of the questions I am answering, I had the luck to ask someone in person, in local groups and meetups before the internet was the thing it is today.

I also just dove in, and read lots of books - there were always the Chilton and Haynes manuals. That was our internet, our training without formal mechanics school or auto shop.

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Here it's not as bad as Facebook it's broken record lol. I am only on Facebook to keep family and friends in touch and work advertising. I do post on a few site but ignore the repeated questions. I began with Chilton as well old trucks. My dad gave me a disposable camera to take pictures of stuff as I took stuff apart but it did no good as I had to drive to town to get them developed . I used a lot of egg cartons and zip locks. The reason I found this page I was researching my 4th gen led head lights and found alfaobd. Decided to join and stay but I see a lot more people join Just to ask one question and never come back. I am afraid this is the new generation and forums will be dead in the next 10 years. I can see a little bit of a shortage on DEF but not like they are projecting it as. More of labor shortage and shipping issues makes more sense.

Dinky said:

Here it's not as bad as Facebook it's broken record lol. I am only on Facebook to keep family and friends in touch and work advertising. I do post on a few site but ignore the repeated questions. I began with Chilton as well old trucks. My dad gave me a disposable camera to take pictures of stuff as I took stuff apart but it did no good as I had to drive to town to get them developed . I used a lot of egg cartons and zip locks. The reason I found this page I was researching my 4th gen led head lights and found alfaobd. Decided to join and stay but I see a lot more people join Just to ask one question and never come back. I am afraid this is the new generation and forums will be dead in the next 10 years. I can see a little bit of a shortage on DEF but not like they are projecting it as. More of labor shortage and shipping issues makes more sense.

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I hope forums like this don’t dry up but I suppose that is how things mature and then move to the next stage of life here also. Nice to meet you! Oh I completely forgot about disposable cameras. I too never got the film developed but if I got stuck, at least I had the picture to get out.

KoboldTaco said:

I hope forums like this don’t dry up but I suppose that is how things mature and then move to the next stage of life here also. Nice to meet you! Oh I completely forgot about disposable cameras. I too never got the film developed but if I got stuck, at least I had the picture to get out.

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I grew up with forums they have Been encyclopedia for me. The new generation will ruin it for formal forums. Reddit had already shown that as its Walmart for forums. Like wise to meet you too. My dad would never come out to show me anything. He would answer any questions but not physically show me. He just said Chiltons showed me lol. Iooking back I am was better off learning by myself as I know how to look up and research things better.

Around 1960, my cousin's 1949 Chevy transmission got so hot, there were some welded gears in it.
My Uncle offered to fix it, what he meant was my 16 year old butt was going to fix it, as he was upstairs in his house, watching tv with my Aunt.
I was doing good i thought, until i had to remove that enclosed drive shaft. i went upstairs to grab a soda & ask him how to remove it, he came down stairs &
after he laughed so hard that he had to sit down.
He broke out the Motor Manuals, then told me to wash my hands thoroughly, then he told me to start reading & then he watched me take everything apart.

Why thank you but the flattery is really not necessary

Elkman said:

Total BS as DEF is simply a urea and water solution and is made in the USA and not shipped in on a boat. DEF has a storage life of about 6 months and a gallon of DEF is enough for 95 gallons of diesel with any truck. If someone has a pickup they are getting 15 mpg or better and so one gallon of DEF is enough to drive 1,425 miles.

But on the other hand we are running out of brains in this country and fewer and fewer people are able to use what little they have. Now this is a serious shortage.

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In mostly empty driving my 19 Cummins HO uses a 2.5 gal jug in about 1600-1800 miles. When towing heavy, it uses a lot more.

tjfdesmo said:

In mostly empty driving my 19 Cummins HO uses a 2.5 gal jug in about 1600-1800 miles. When towing heavy, it uses a lot more.

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The EcoDiesel fairs a little better, I'm usually north of 1100 miles/gallon of DEF. It's to be expected as DEF consumption is related to how much fuel is being used.

I'll buy it when I need it, ...or not. Why stockpile something that has a short shelf life? LMAO.

There were bunches of it at several local stores I was in yesterday. Even shelves full of Rotella T6 at Wally World.

Can I assume peeing in the DEF tank isn't really an option?

Fatbob Frank said:

Can I assume peeing in the DEF tank isn't really an option?

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You sir, are a problem solver kind of thinker . I'd say someone buy this man a beer, but I've heard rumurs of plant shutdowns and shortages.....

tjfdesmo said:

In mostly empty driving my 19 Cummins HO uses a 2.5 gal jug in about 1600-1800 miles. When towing heavy, it uses a lot more.

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So does mine.