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I've gotten them as quick as a week, and as long as a month - and both those extremes include mailing time from me to Blackstone.
 

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yeah, usually 4 days to two weeks on average, sometimes a lil longer.
 

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This is all very interesting data here. This thread is worth gold I will say. I have a question. I have a 2012 Dodge Ram Outdoorsman Hemi. Odo has 250k miles but reman Jasper Engine was put in and has 120k miles on it. Also a reman Jasper Tranny put in just 20k miles ago. I have all the paperwork showing this. I just got the truck a couple weeks ago. I show that the oil changes Castrol 5w20 has been used for all of this engine's oil changes. There is no ticking, engine runs smooth. Really in my mind feel that since the Jasper Engine's have addressed the shortcomings/common issues should I change to Redline 5w30? Or stick with the 5w20?
 

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So, do I worry about the iron? Those 4 runs are all Redline, but different weights, wrote the weight in red

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Wait; would the oil filter itself have anything to do with the increase in iron? I used a Fram halfway through that latest oil change, the two runs before were definitely RP's of some sort and don't remember what first run was.
 

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Just got my first set of results...hopefully I'm smart enough to upload it.
 

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Kinda crazy that my viscosity is lower than the one posted above with 5w-30 redline...which is what I think burla has said...the redline 5w-30 will be thicker most of its life than the PUP 0w-40
 

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So, do I worry about the iron? Those 4 runs are all Redline, but different weights, wrote the weight in red

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Iron is fine for a hemi oci with 10k miles, it looks pretty good man imo. If you look closely, clearly the 5w30 is protecting that best. Why was the 5w20 interval less then 1/2 of the others? That 5w30 is hemi honey, did you have piston slap? The aluminum (pistons) is up on the 5w30 runs but engine wear is down, which follows what we know with that oil in the cold. First run is a throw away, you know that right? Young engine as well as first redline run?
 

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Iron is fine for a hemi oci with 10k miles, it looks pretty good man imo. If you look closely, clearly the 5w30 is protecting that best. Why was the 5w20 interval less then 1/2 of the others? That 5w30 is hemi honey, did you have piston slap? The aluminum (pistons) is up on the 5w30 runs but engine wear is down, which follows what we know with that oil in the cold. First run is a throw away, you know that right? Young engine as well as first redline run?

It's actually in KM's though, hopefully that doesn't change the picture too much. The 5w-20 was probably just because I was getting ready to tow and wanted a thicker oil at that point.

I do have a knocking on cold starts in the winter time, I've heard it on all 3 variations of RL and it does it with M1 0w-40 as well. Probably just the way the engine is. In the summer it's not as bad but still there. Could be piston slap? Nobody has really identified that sound.

I'm not using m1 permanently, it was on sale and much cheaper than RL this time and RL was out of stock as well so figured I'd see how M1 performs. I don't notice any difference in terms of sounds, both are very quiet (other than that cold start in winter). Will of course post UOA in Oct when I change my oil again.
 

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Just got my first set of results...hopefully I'm smart enough to upload it.
That is what we expect with PUP 0w40, look up hammers uas, identical almost for viscosity. Looks good for the mileage, young engine right now, what shocks me is tbn is already low, not a long interval oil.
 

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It's actually in KM's though, hopefully that doesn't change the picture too much. The 5w-20 was probably just because I was getting ready to tow and wanted a thicker oil at that point.

I do have a knocking on cold starts in the winter time, I've heard it on all 3 variations of RL and it does it with M1 0w-40 as well. Probably just the way the engine is. In the summer it's not as bad but still there. Could be piston slap? Nobody has really identified that sound.

I'm not using m1 permanently, it was on sale and much cheaper than RL this time and RL was out of stock as well so figured I'd see how M1 performs. I don't notice any difference in terms of sounds, both are very quiet (other than that cold start in winter). Will of course post UOA in Oct when I change my oil again.
still decent imo, the wear is decent and the tbn is good. cant wait to see m1 run for the compare...
 

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Any Pentastar V6 UOA's available?

(I looked back some and did not see any)
 

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I just ordered my kit. Is there a certain amount of miles you should have on the oil before running a report? Are you not suppose to take a sample until say 5000 miles on the oil?
 

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I just ordered my kit. Is there a certain amount of miles you should have on the oil before running a report? Are you not suppose to take a sample until say 5000 miles on the oil?
if you want info on your interval, you should order tbn which is extra and have decent miles on the oil, like you say five thousand. If you dont care about understanding your interval, just go get a uoa with miles you feel like.
 

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if you want info on your interval, you should order tbn which is extra and have decent miles on the oil, like you say five thousand. If you dont care about understanding your interval, just go get a uoa with miles you feel like.
Perfect thanks so much for explanation. No doubt going to get the tbn. This all new to me. Also getting the Quick-draw pump, seems to make the process easier.
 

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I use my pump on transmission oil, not engine oil, but whatever works.
 

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How many miles is it good to run a uoa? I know running one too early won't show much other than a lot of wear. I'm thinking after 50xxx miles? This is for a hemi BTW.
 

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Any Pentastar V6 UOA's available?

(I looked back some and did not see any)
Here's two from my wife's Pacifica with the pentastar....
 

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