Synthetic Oil

huntergreen · Jun 26, 2022

tidefan1967 said:
Love some grits myself! Had some with bacon this morning. I bet some of these guys don’t know what grits are!

Brings me back to my military days .
You could tell who was from south and north. Folks from the south would put salt in their grits. Northerners like myself would use sugar.

HK1837 · Jun 26, 2022

EdGs said:
More like a mouse on 'roids, lol.

Fair enough on the off-track stuff - I'm one of the guilty ones! After this I'll shut up!

Can't let this one totally slide though! If a Z/28 302 is a mouse on 'roids then the following must be "super mice":

1970 Z/28 350 LT1
L76 and L84 327's plus not to mention even the hydraulic cam L79 which was a real sleeper too.

Those L76 (4BBL) and L84 (injected) 327's were weapons. They are basically the same thing as a Z/28 302 but longer stroke. Same head design, same cam and made massive power. They were factory rated up to 375hp with ramshorn exhaust manifolds. In a lightweight Corvette they were true weapons. As a laugh watch this drag race between two big blocks. The camera car in front is an L84 Corvette, they needed that to stay in front of the two whales that are both capable of low to mid 14s 1/4 mile times.

1963 Chevrolet Impala vs 1963 Ford Galaxie [www.ChevyNet.com.ar]

www.youtube.com

huntergreen · Jun 26, 2022

HK1837 said:
Fair enough on the off-track stuff - I'm one of the guilty ones! After this I'll shut up!

Can't let this one totally slide though! If a Z/28 302 is a mouse on 'roids then the following must be "super mice":

1970 Z/28 350 LT1
L76 and L84 327's plus not to mention even the hydraulic cam L79 which was a real sleeper too.

Those L76 (4BBL) and L84 (injected) 327's were weapons. They are basically the same thing as a Z/28 302 but longer stroke. Same head design, same cam and made massive power. They were factory rated up to 375hp with ramshorn exhaust manifolds. In a lightweight Corvette they were true weapons. As a laugh watch this drag race between two big blocks. The camera car in front is an L84 Corvette, they needed that to stay in front of the two whales that are both capable of low to mid 14s 1/4 mile times.

1963 Chevrolet Impala vs 1963 Ford Galaxie [www.ChevyNet.com.ar]

www.youtube.com

Those engines were pre pollution control cars. I believe the Z28 had all the new controls and used unleaded gas, or they weren’t street legal. May have been the same engine, but had mandated “extras”. Enjoyed the video btw. Brought back some memories.

MontanaHandyman · Jun 26, 2022

HK1837 said:
Fair enough on the off-track stuff - I'm one of the guilty ones! After this I'll shut up!

Can't let this one totally slide though! If a Z/28 302 is a mouse on 'roids then the following must be "super mice":

1970 Z/28 350 LT1
L76 and L84 327's plus not to mention even the hydraulic cam L79 which was a real sleeper too.

Those L76 (4BBL) and L84 (injected) 327's were weapons. They are basically the same thing as a Z/28 302 but longer stroke. Same head design, same cam and made massive power. They were factory rated up to 375hp with ramshorn exhaust manifolds. In a lightweight Corvette they were true weapons. As a laugh watch this drag race between two big blocks. The camera car in front is an L84 Corvette, they needed that to stay in front of the two whales that are both capable of low to mid 14s 1/4 mile times.

1963 Chevrolet Impala vs 1963 Ford Galaxie [www.ChevyNet.com.ar]

www.youtube.com

After discussing whatever particular car or engine is of interest to ya, throw in a line mentioning what brand/type of oil you used in said vehicle...then you should be safe in this thread...lol!

rule18 · Jun 26, 2022

MontanaHandyman said:
After discussing whatever particular car or engine is of interest to ya, throw in a line mentioning what brand/type of oil you used in said vehicle...then you should be safe in this thread...

I'm surrounded by wise-a$$es, but in a good way. :cheers:

HK1837 · Jun 27, 2022

huntergreen said:
Those engines were pre pollution control cars. I believe the Z28 had all the new controls and used unleaded gas, or they weren’t street legal. May have been the same engine, but had mandated “extras”. Enjoyed the video btw. Brought back some memories.

Just to make this legal, there wasn't much in the way of synthetic oil back then. They probably used mineral oil....Sorry, couldn't help myself! Is there a shooting teh breeze section in these forums?

Unleaded engines came into being for 1971 model year for most manufacturers ready for ULP in 1972. All the big compression engines basically finished in 1970 model year although some hang on for a short while like Pontiac from memory. The initial anti-pollution stuff came into being for California in 1967, and then across the board in 1968 - that is the A.I.R and similar stuff you can see on the scan in post 45092. If you look hard enough you can see different engine and carby specs for California in 1967 basically for idle and evaporative emissions then they align in 1968. The 1967 Z28 was thus pre-emissions for everywhere except California. the 1968-1970 Z28 should be the same across the board.
Great video. You can see the twin black lines from the 'vette's tyres on every gear change.

Badger 13 · Jun 27, 2022

Wow, I didn't realize I was opening a can of worms when I mentioned about getting back on the subject of synthetic oil. I apologize to anyone who took offense to it. Yes, I'm guilty as well by stating a fact on the Lil Express trucks. I enjoy reading this thread, and I guess getting off topic on occasion is part of the whole forum. Okay, consider me "spanked".

Ghost1500 · Jun 27, 2022

HK1837 said:
Just to make this legal, there wasn't much in the way of synthetic oil back then. They probably used mineral oil....Sorry, couldn't help myself! Is there a shooting the breeze section in these forums?

On another forum I admin/moderate there is an "Off Topic Lounge" section for anyone to BS about whatever they want. Just something to think about....

Best regards,

-Mike

rule18 · Jun 27, 2022

Ghost1500 said:
On another forum I admin/moderate there is an "Off Topic Lounge" section for anyone to BS about whatever they want. Just something to think about....

Best regards,

-Mike

We have one here, it's called The Lounge. https://www.ramforum.com/forums/the-lounge.26/

Rod Knock · Jun 27, 2022

I'll put in my two cents:

I've been on this thread since 2020 and made my fair contributions, including some scientific discussions about lubricants. I even debated with @Burla about the correlation of Red Line, Lubeguard, and preventing HEMI lifter failures. That debate resulted in arguments and some unpleasant exchanges. Still, it's almost the only thread I visit here because I know some guys here enjoy their company.

That being said, I believe that this thread, being as long and convoluted as it is, has outlived its usefulness. I'm saying that because it's hard to make any sense of it except for those who participated for a long time in this discussion.

Now, I would be sad to see this thread closed. However, I believe that as we advance, it would be a good idea to start new threads about specific lubrication issues to keep the information fresh and relevant. It would certainly make life easier for new members looking to get more information on the subject.

Burla · Jun 27, 2022

Time to get back on topic and start a homer club number 2, that was definitely on point. A synthetic oil club, the good ol days.

I'm semi retired, we need a treasurer, a president and a ceo, and someone to hand out avatars. Yawll have at it.

Burla · Jun 27, 2022

Isnt the other thread a cliff notes of this thread? The synthetic oil thread of 2017 stands at only 115 pages or so. If this thread is to scary someone can go to that thread smiley created because the poll in this thread left out popular choices like redline and pennzoil. For those of you who want to only discuss synthetic oil and nothing else like filters or oil clubs, I might suggest that thread is the place you should be. Last I checked this thread is a voluntary read and still popular among folks at ram forum. Plus that thread included the oils left out by the OP of this thread, thanks smiley for doing that. So that thread is in sticky section and is waiting for oil and only oil discussion.

MontanaHandyman · Jun 27, 2022

Rod Knock said:
I'll put in my two cents:

I've been on this thread since 2020 and made my fair contributions, including some scientific discussions about lubricants. I even debated with @Burla about the correlation of Red Line, Lubeguard, and preventing HEMI lifter failures. That debate resulted in arguments and some unpleasant exchanges. Still, it's almost the only thread I visit here because I know some guys here enjoy their company.

That being said, I believe that this thread, being as long and convoluted as it is, has outlived its usefulness. I'm saying that because it's hard to make any sense of it except for those who participated for a long time in this discussion.

Now, I would be sad to see this thread closed. However, I believe that as we advance, it would be a good idea to start new threads about specific lubrication issues to keep the information fresh and relevant. It would certainly make life easier for new members looking to get more information on the subject.

It beats reading War and Peace! (Oops! I'm off topic again! :-D

HEMIMANN · Jun 27, 2022

I can hand out stickers my suppliers keep sending me with my orders.

Burla · Jun 27, 2022

Burla likely stickers...

az chip · Jun 29, 2022

All I know is, paper filters bad, other media better. More moly, not less. Bacon!

Ron Boggio · Jun 29, 2022

Royal Purple although I would not hesitate to use AMSOIL. I have used both over the years in everything. As was pointed out RP is just down the road. AMSOIL is mail order.

69GWC · Jun 29, 2022

Been awhile since I posted in here, getting ready to do my first oil change on my wagon.
10-40 RP filter and 5w40 Redline.
Question is Euro 5w40 ? Is this any different ?
Question 7 quarts ?
Think I should start putting lubeguard in it already?
I will be around 1500 miles once I get it done.
Pic just cause

Burla · Jun 29, 2022

Redline euro is low saps, I'd stay with high performance 5w30 or 5w40 without lubegard if it were me.

low saps redline - lower ca, zinc, mag and moly.

69GWC · Jun 29, 2022

Cool thanks for the info.

Got a 10hr trip the first of Aug pulling a 6x12 enclosed trailer so am going to get some good oil in it before we go.

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