WTF is wrong with my paint!!??

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The capless fuel filler for the gas trucks started with the Gen5 (DT) body. The diesel trucks capless filler neck started with the '13 model year.
ok, well I had capless on MY 15 ED. Oh well, my bad, bad turkey.
 

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I assume this truck never sees road salt? How does everything look underneath the truck, under all the doors, tailgate, etc.

Like said, given the age/mileage, it would be rare a Ram dealer would fix this for free, or even go through the process of attempting to do so.

I wonder if someone who does high end detailing, paint work or PDR could figure out what this is and how to remedy it.
 

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Really don't want to say this but could that be brake fluid we all know what it will do to paint, I know you have only 12,000 on it has any brake work been done on it.
 
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That looks like sealant or ceramic coat high spotting and it reacted with either the fuel "OR" someone tried to add something to your truck ...

Ceramic coatings and sealants if not done correctly will react that way, if you take it to the dealership "DO NOT" mention that you had it sealed or ceramic coated, that will void your warranty for that issue, trust me, I just dealt with a similar issue on a Honda Accord about 3 months ago ...
@CheechDogg.0n37s What do you mean someone tried to add something? Like a sticker?

Paint fail? Dunno, but near gas fill, hmmmmm. The capless vent system is 2 part, with a upper and lower vent system/valve. Not heard of failures as much as venting issues causing issues on filling the fuel tank. My take is this: A lot of PPL, and I am guilty also: Will fill a tank till pump clicks off, then force more in there to top off tank. A lot of PPL have said, doing this forces fumes and such through system into vapor cannister ref EPA, and not good. Well, I am no mechanic, but have read about this issue. NE WAY, I now fill till stops, wait 30 seconds, fill to second stop, and that be it. But I also do not fill my tank on the highest speed. But there have also been tank issues and filler neck issues where there may have been a TSB and new parts ref tank fill issues. Kinda luck of the draw, unfortunately. All IMHO.....

ADDED: 2 part system is why RAM also has a specific funnel designed to put fuel in the gas tank by means other than a gas pump, ie., like a gas can, and the funnel comes when you buy your truck and is located with the jack. A lot of PPL do not know this. I personally, when I had my ED, and was adding Cetane to the tank, had a "long" skinny funnel that I could put in the tank to open both valves to add the "Diesel Kleen" to the tank, instead of using given funnel and have to deal with those fumes in the cab if you kept the "issued funnel" in the truck.
@turkeybird56 I did have the fuel neck repaired under warranty a good while ago because the nozzle would get stuck inside.
I continue filling in my bike but not the truck after it clicks off and then wait a bit before removing the nozzle so it doesn't drip..trying to avoid this problem but here we are.
Very interesting about the two part system, had no idea, pretty neat.

It's virtually impossible (or at least extremly difficult) for it to leak out of the top of the filler. There is a trap door further down and even if fuel got past that there are drain holes it would come out before it would come out of the end of the filler tube. These drain holes would dump the fuel behind the body, not on the outside.

It sure looks like spilled fuel though, going to be hard to prove otherwise to a dealer etc.


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@mtnrider Right and I'm such a weirdo when I fill up I even would fucken cup the nozzle to not drip on the truck! Gotta love when you go above and beyond to avoid something then the inevitable still happens. Maybe those other guys mentioning the peeling is the actual issue though and not gas causing the issue.

Could be every time you fill up when you remove your gas cap do you let it drop out of your hands and let it dangle and hit the paint, I see so many people do this when they fill up, there’s a lip on the inside of your gas door, at least mine does I hang it on there when I’m fueling up, your probably rubbing some of the clear coat off each time you let your fuel cap drop and dangle and rub the paint maybe ?
@yogibear18 Nope, I'll flip it upside down or cup it and installed zip ties on the tank door to hold the cap (way away from the body). Explained in some earlier replies how I deal with fill-up. Really wish I could blame myself for this one but I did everything possible to avoid it:(

Exactly what I was thinking. Thats why I was saying to try and strip a small spot of the product(sealer) where the issue is and see if it goes away.
@Nick@GotExhaust Not sure I'm fully understanding you guys about striping the sealer. So as mentioned you're saying nick a little bit and see what it is? But lets say it does peel off, what's the downsides of peeling that off vs leaving it on the way it is? Just trying to understand what neck-testing will accomplish or determine.
Oh btw, I tried SCRUBBING it when I first saw it and nothing budged. Extremely solid as if it was apart of the truck.

I assume this truck never sees road salt? How does everything look underneath the truck, under all the doors, tailgate, etc.

Like said, given the age/mileage, it would be rare a Ram dealer would fix this for free, or even go through the process of attempting to do so.

I wonder if someone who does high end detailing, paint work or PDR could figure out what this is and how to remedy it.
@PoMansRam Maybe a handful of times a year. Baby the hell out of it. Try to only take it out when roads have been cleared from snow and been sunny for a while and/or use company vehicle most of winter to avoid road salt. Underneath truck has been completely undercoated.
I totally agree. Had to fight em for the touchscreen taking a ****, maybe they'd cover this if it wasn't near fuel door but being near that I don't see them even taking me seriously. Gotta love how it all goes bad after warranty. Maybe if anything I could go through the third party company that sealed the truck. Wondering if maybe that's what's coming off. It wasn't a ceramic coating it was just called something like Commodore. Not even really sure what it is but they claimed it sealed the exterior and interior. Think they clay bar and wax then maybe did something. But wouldn't think this is it. Thinking if anything it's something that protects OEM paint.
Good idea I can maybe find a place to just take a look and see what they say out of curiosity.

Really don't want to say this but could that be brake fluid we all know what it will do to paint, I know you have only 12,000 on it has any brake work been done on it.
@Dodge 1500 4X4 I'm honestly ignorant of what brake fluid would do to paint? But nope, never had brakes serviced.
 

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If you had a quality sealer on there scrubbing it may not do anything. If it is gas or something else that caused the sealer to react that way. Stripping the sealer will tell if you paint is ok and its just the sealer.
 
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But then the sealer could continue to peel I'd think...

Appreciate everyones suggestions and help. I'll contact the sealer on Tuesday and see if I can swing by for them to examine it. I'll report back if I make any progress. Have a good holiday homies.
 
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Alrighty! Took a couple trips to the shop that did the clear coat, but this is where we're at. They're gonna open up a claim through the clear coat company/manufacturer. No idea how long this process will take (they haven't even done it before), so this'll be fun.... One guy made it seem as if it's the trucks coat underneath their clear coat, which is potentially two coats below acting up... From what I was getting from that, means potentially having to repaint that side of the truck?.... Part of me doesn't even want that in all honesty..but other part of me doesn't know if this is going to spread throughout the rest of the bed panel... Guess it's good I was covered by them for another year but worried how this is gonna go. I'll continue providing updates as I receive them.
 
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