Automatic transmission fluid and filter change

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My manual says lifetime fill. I am going with that. Also have the lifetime warranty to replace it when it fails.

You good with the truck laying in the shop for months while they try to scare up another trans? You might get a clunky loaner, but I know I wouldn't be happy with loss of use of my truck.
 

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FCA may claim lifetime my self still believe every 60 months 60K, as I see it its cheap insurance being how hot FCA allows the transmission to reach... Some say but it owners manual stated lifetime but ask your self what is FCA legal definition of lifetime, anyone know?
 

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You good with the truck laying in the shop for months while they try to scare up another trans? You might get a clunky loaner, but I know I wouldn't be happy with loss of use of my truck.
At only 50000 miles on my 16, I’m hoping by the time my trans fails, all this supply chain issues will be over.
 

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So I did my transmission fluid and filter change today. my driveway has enough incline to get level so I just drained the fluid in that position, it was cold and it had not been running for a few hours. I put the new pan on with no issues. I pumped the TF in until it was up to fill then started the truck and continued to add fluid until it was dripping out. I put the plug in and the went through the gears and drove the truck about 1/2 mile, temp went to about 105F. I then Parked the truck in the same location, removed the fill plug and put TF in until is started to come out. (Still running) It never did become just a drip but slowed to a slow steady drizzle, so I installed plug. I am wondering if it is over filled? I put in about 5 1/2 quarts I estimate.
Mine took 5 1/2 - 5 3/4 quarts so I would assume you have the proper level. Mine never dripped either. More like a dribble that didn’t seem to end.
 

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At only 50000 miles on my 16, I’m hoping by the time my trans fails, all this supply chain issues will be over.

I think the good thing about the 8HP45 and 8HP70 is there is no shortage of them because the demand for them as replacement units is low. They're not even that bad in terms of cost. Quite low in fact compared to some replacement ATs.
 

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I think the good thing about the 8HP45 and 8HP70 is there is no shortage of them because the demand for them as replacement units is low. They're not even that bad in terms of cost. Quite low in fact compared to some replacement ATs.
I’ve only read about a few failures on the forum. Turned out much better than I thought they would.
 

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Curious if anybody has any input if they think 5 1/2 quarts would’ve overfilled my transmission per the above post?
You should be fine, I think I added about 5 quarts when I did mine and I was a little below level with the truck. I dont think you can overflow the transmission the way the fill port is designed unless you stood the truck on its grill.
 
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Now I need to know wht 8 speed tranny I have. do I have the 845RE or the 8HP70? Why is this so hard? Does anyone have a good place to get the fluid from?
 

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Now I need to know wht 8 speed tranny I have. do I have the 845RE or the 8HP70? Why is this so hard? Does anyone have a good place to get the fluid from?

Ain't no 845RE. Either 8HP70 or 75. You got the 70. The diesel gets the 75.
 

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FCA may claim lifetime my self still believe every 60 months 60K, as I see it its cheap insurance being how hot FCA allows the transmission to reach... Some say but it owners manual stated lifetime but ask your self what is FCA legal definition of lifetime, anyone know?
I've read elsewhere (forgotten where) that FCA's "internal" definition of lifetime, at least for this, is 100k.
 

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Along with..."sealed for life". Nobody asks what "life" means. Often it's way less than the life of a serviceable component.

Since transmissions are $6,000 components, trying to dupe buyers into believing their transmissions doesn't require as much maintenance is especially dishonest.

So often such fly-by-night sales tactics may achieve an initial sale, then lose future business once the dupe realizes he's been had. Problem is, so many companies were acquired into mega-corporations that all do the same thing. There is no escape but for informational Forums such as this, advising each other how to overcome the corporate malfeasance.
 

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Any design parameter involves some decisions that have to be made, compromises and so forth, before a final design value can be settled on. Each of those decisions/compromises involved a level of judgement based on the designer's overarching philosophy, or which aspect of the design they want to maximize at the expense of some other aspects that suffer as a result. That's the compromise.

Most auto owners have to invest quite a lot of money into their vehicles, and naturally many like us here on Ram Forum are highly motivated on maximizing vehicle longevity at the expense of added maintenance, sometimes over and beyond what was decided on by the vehicle manufacturer, who had some other motivation in mind when they stipulated their maintenance (like minimizing advertised maintenance cost, minimizing fluid processing, etc.).

But I sometimes notice there is a certain subset of the population that almost seems to get angry when people question the manufacturers maintenance intervals. They scoff at the idea of wanting to maximize longevity. And for the life of me I can't figure out why. Deference to the "experts" I suppose, or lack of faith in regular people's right to choose a little differently.

I found this video the other day that PERFECTLY shows this attitude, and it was so striking I thought I'd link it here. The thing is, he's not wrong in his reasons for longer service interval. Engines and lubricants are indeed better these days, and change intervals have gone up, but he shows his cards when he trashes the overarching motivation anyone who considers maximizing life over maintenance cost has: "You aren't going to keep your car for a long time. You think you want to, but you're not going to, and it's because you're incapable of being content with the same old thing for a long long time, and even if you are, it's then a danger to others and yourself. You're gonna want the new better thing soon, just like the rest of us." I know I'm paraphrasing, and perhaps a bit unfairly, but that's the attitude I see in those statements. It's the "the experts know better than you and how dare you assume you might know more about your own motivations than the experts" attitude.

Rant over.
 
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That definately does not apply to me.

I wish I could change vehicles every 2 or 3 years. but I can't. Especially when new is 40 to 60K.

So I make sure fluids are changed. It has to be done.

Now, if I hit the powerball............
 

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Any design parameter involves some decisions that have to be made, compromises and so forth, before a final design value can be settled on. Each of those decisions/compromises involved a level of judgement based on the designer's overarching philosophy, or which aspect of the design they want to maximize at the expense of some other aspects that suffer as a result. That's the compromise.

Most auto owners have to invest quite a lot of money into their vehicles, and naturally many like us here on Ram Forum are highly motivated on maximizing vehicle longevity at the expense of added maintenance, sometimes over and beyond what was decided on by the vehicle manufacturer, who had some other motivation in mind when they stipulated their maintenance (like minimizing advertised maintenance cost, minimizing fluid processing, etc.).

But I sometimes notice there is a certain subset of the population that almost seems to get angry when people question the manufacturers maintenance intervals. They scoff at the idea of wanting to maximize longevity. And for the life of me I can't figure out why. Deference to the "experts" I suppose, or lack of faith in regular people's right to choose a little differently.

I found this video the other day that PERFECTLY shows this attitude, and it was so striking I thought I'd link it here. The thing is, he's not wrong in his reasons for longer service interval. Engines and lubricants are indeed better these days, and change intervals have gone up, but he shows his cards when he trashes the overarching motivation anyone who considers maximizing life over maintenance cost has: "You aren't going to keep your car for a long time. You think you want to, but you're not going to, and it's because you're incapable of being content with the same old thing for a long long time, and even if you are, it's then a danger to others and yourself. You're gonna want the new better thing soon, just like the rest of us." I know I'm paraphrasing, and perhaps a bit unfairly, but that's the attitude I see in those statements. It's the "the experts know better than you and how dare you assume you might know more about your own motivations than t
Any design parameter involves some decisions that have to be made, compromises and so forth, before a final design value can be settled on. Each of those decisions/compromises involved a level of judgement based on the designer's overarching philosophy, or which aspect of the design they want to maximize at the expense of some other aspects that suffer as a result. That's the compromise.

Most auto owners have to invest quite a lot of money into their vehicles, and naturally many like us here on Ram Forum are highly motivated on maximizing vehicle longevity at the expense of added maintenance, sometimes over and beyond what was decided on by the vehicle manufacturer, who had some other motivation in mind when they stipulated their maintenance (like minimizing advertised maintenance cost, minimizing fluid processing, etc.).

But I sometimes notice there is a certain subset of the population that almost seems to get angry when people question the manufacturers maintenance intervals. They scoff at the idea of wanting to maximize longevity. And for the life of me I can't figure out why. Deference to the "experts" I suppose, or lack of faith in regular people's right to choose a little differently.

I found this video the other day that PERFECTLY shows this attitude, and it was so striking I thought I'd link it here. The thing is, he's not wrong in his reasons for longer service interval. Engines and lubricants are indeed better these days, and change intervals have gone up, but he shows his cards when he trashes the overarching motivation anyone who considers maximizing life over maintenance cost has: "You aren't going to keep your car for a long time. You think you want to, but you're not going to, and it's because you're incapable of being content with the same old thing for a long long time, and even if you are, it's then a danger to others and yourself. You're gonna want the new better thing soon, just like the rest of us." I know I'm paraphrasing, and perhaps a bit unfairly, but that's the attitude I see in those statements. It's the "the experts know better than you and how dare you assume you might know more about your own motivations than the experts" attitude.

Rant over.

There's a lot of ignorance out there, not just about things they don't know about, but about people that do. Forums aren't for them.
 
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Ok so I've gotten the pan and am going with the Valvoline Max Life. What type is it? ATF or ATF with a number attached to it?
 
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