What are the distinctive diferences between Gen.4 & 5

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Would like to know, - what are the distinctive/pronounced/serious differences between Gen.4 & 5?
Maybe has someone a comparison link?
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The biggest change between the two is the crew cab design, it's 4" longer and the floor is flat in the Gen5. That goes with the interior and electrical/electronics redesign.
The other notable upgrade is the 6 lug wheels, It does add a strength factor but nothing super advantageous over the 5 lug with it being a half to truck.
 
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Thanks. So nothing new on engine management? For example cylinder deactivation etc.? I don't even know if mine MY2016 has. (Was not a bying option.) But that would be mainly important in case of MPG.
From 5 to 6 lugs probably to sell more aftermarket wheels. ;)
What I noticed, the touchscreen is bigger and some operating switches bit differen to gen4.
By the way, we have 25-30% price increase of the used cars here in Europe, because you get strongly new.
 

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The fifth gen have the E-Torque mild hybrid system. As far as I know, it CAN be optional on the Hemi, but don't think you can get the 3.6 with out it. The Gen 4.2 (Classics) don't get the E-Torque at all.

Also, as far as I know, MDS is still on the current Hemi. It's been on all truck Hemi's since around '08 (I think) with car Hemi's having it longer. At best MDS is good for around 10% mpg improvement, but only at constant speeds.

As far as engine management - I'm sure it's gotten incrementally better, but nothing outstanding.

Some of the changes in the interior are specific to the fifth gen, but most can be had in the Classics as well. As far as I've seen on the Ram ordering side, the larger screen/infotainment systems are available across the board.
 

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The 5th gen also introduced the etorque system
 
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The fifth gen have the E-Torque mild hybrid system. As far as I know, it CAN be optional on the Hemi, but don't think you can get the 3.6 with out it. The Gen 4.2 (Classics) don't get the E-Torque at all.

Also, as far as I know, MDS is still on the current Hemi. It's been on all truck Hemi's since around '08 (I think) with car Hemi's having it longer. At best MDS is good for around 10% mpg improvement, but only at constant speeds.

As far as engine management - I'm sure it's gotten incrementally better, but nothing outstanding.

Some of the changes in the interior are specific to the fifth gen, but most can be had in the Classics as well. As far as I've seen on the Ram ordering side, the larger screen/infotainment systems are available across the board.
Sorry, what is loose nut behind the wheel?
 
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That would be the driver behind the steering wheel. It usually means the person couldn't drive a tricycle if they tried. :)
If wahrsuul is same opinion? :driver:Or it's self irony? Than he's funny. But don't forget, only Casanova could tell about himself, he has big nose. :jester:
 

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:) OK I ment rather what I can't see. Technical solutions/improvements etc.
If you're interested in the EcoDiesel at all, it's apx 80% redesigned in the 5th gen vs 4th gen Ram 1500 bodies. More horsepower and torque, improved fuel economy and theoretically more reliable vs the old.
 

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Electric locker rear diff is now an option,upgraded 8 speed transmission. Gen 4's were 8HP70 8 speeds 5th gens get the heavier duty 8HP75 8 speed with revised gear ratio's.Supposedly the 5th Gens are about 300 lbs lighter then a comparable 4th Gen.
8HP 70 is rated for 700nm continous duty,or roughly 516 lb-ft
8HP75 is rated for 750nm continous duty ,or roughly 553 lb-ft
 
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Electric locker rear diff is now an option,upgraded 8 speed transmission. Gen 4's were 8HP70 8 speeds 5th gens get the heavier duty 8HP75 8 speed with revised gear ratio's.Supposedly the 5th Gens are about 300 lbs lighter then a comparable 4th Gen.
8HP 70 is rated for 700nm continous duty,or roughly 516 lb-ft
8HP75 is rated for 750nm continous duty ,or roughly 553 lb-ft
This upgraded 8 speed must be fantastic, because I'm already very satisfied with mine gen. 4 transmission. Never have to manualy manipulate shifting, what I supposed to do before with 6 gear automatic Audi Allroad and 5 gear aut. JEEP Wrangler CRD. It's a very curvy up and downhill track here around my homestead and I don't like unpredictable (ad hoc) gear changes any time. But my Rebel does his job very well and smooth.:cool:
 

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This upgraded 8 speed must be fantastic, because I'm already very satisfied with mine gen. 4 transmission. Never have to manualy manipulate shifting, what I supposed to do before with 6 gear automatic Audi Allroad and 5 gear aut. JEEP Wrangler CRD. It's a very curvy up and downhill track here around my homestead and I don't like unpredictable (ad hoc) gear changes any time. But my Rebel does his job very well and smooth.:cool:
Guys who've raced 4th Gens and now are racing 5th Gens are saying the 5th Gens are noticably quicker stock or mod for mod,might be a combination of the better gear spread in the 8HP75 and the lighter weight.Supposedly the stock 5th Gens with 3.21 gears are out running the 4th Gens with 3.92's pretty easily,i've never ran or drove a 5th Gen,so can't confirm what the rumour mill is saying,but the guys claiming it,i do respect and trust their opinions
 
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My RAM V8 was on my bucket list and I'm very happy with this Gen.4, :happy107:but it seems I have to renew the list and if I live long enough so I will get a Gen.5 Rebel GT next for my 70BD.
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If wahrsuul is same opinion? :driver:Or it's self irony? Than he's funny. But don't forget, only Casanova could tell about himself, he has big nose. :jester:

Self-deprecation in the cause of humor. And yes, I can drive a trycycle - at least a Can-Am Spyder.

Don't know why I forgot about the 8spd trans....that started on the V6 in '13 while the Hemi still had the 6spd. Now the 8spd is all that's available. Kinda wish I had one on mine, but they don't make the fifth gens in yellow so.....

And I do have to say that although the fifth gens have grown on me a little (like fungus), I still prefer the looks of the fourth gens.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I noticed that the 5th gen has a 7100lb. GVWR VS 6900lb in the gen 4. And a GCVWR of 14,100lb vs 13, 900 lb. Looking to buy a travel trailer and noticed the difference. This was for a 2019 5.7 4x4 with 3.21 gears
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I noticed that the 5th gen has a 7100lb. GVWR VS 6900lb in the gen 4. And a GCVWR of 14,100lb vs 13, 900 lb. Looking to buy a travel trailer and noticed the difference. This was for a 2019 5.7 4x4 with 3.21 gears
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