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It's finally time to replace my crap stock tires on my 2017 1500 Laramie. I do all on road driving so I'm looking for something that's no noisier than stock, and is good in rain and snow. Hopefully something that looks better than stock too. I'm in Connecticut and our winters give snow, slush, snow / rain and some freezing rain.

I've seen people recommend the Nitto Recon Grapplers or the Ridge Grapplers - how are they in snow, rain and slush? Any other suggestions?

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could not be happier with Michelin Defenders LTX m&s....similar weather where i drive. Has really helped to stabilize towing 30ft tt too. good luck.
 
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It's finally time to replace my crap stock tires on my 2017 1500 Laramie. I do all on road driving so I'm looking for something that's no noisier than stock, and is good in rain and snow. Hopefully something that looks better than stock too. I'm in Connecticut and our winters give snow, slush, snow / rain and some freezing rain.

I've seen people recommend the Nitto Recon Grapplers or the Ridge Grapplers - how are they in snow, rain and slush? Any other suggestions?

Thanks much
I can tell you that the Ridge Grapplers in the rain for me are B@D@$$ .... I have had some pretty bad tires in the rain and the Grapplers are not one of them ...

In the snow and slush I have no experience with them

The Discoverer STT Pros I love in snow and slush same as the Toyo MTs ...
 

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Ridge grapplers should be the farthest down your list as they SUCK in the snow.
I do demand a lot from a snow performance aspect tho. Why I run dedicated snow tires.
Michelin LTX is a great tire for what you seek.
 
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Ridge grapplers should be the farthest down your list as they SUCK in the snow.
I do demand a lot from a snow performance aspect tho. Why I run dedicated snow tires.
Michelin LTX is a great tire for what you seek.
OhD@hm! lol ..

They really suck in the snow eh? Like what is it you don't like ...
 

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I ran Copper SST with the center sipped as a dedicated snow tire on their own rims through 4 Iowa winters in my 2006 CTD I loved how well they were in snow & slush an would buy them again if I move back to snow country.
 
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I ran Copper SST with the center sipped as a dedicated snow tire on their own rims through 4 Iowa winters in my 2006 CTD I loved how well they were in snow & slush an would buy them again if I move back to snow country.
I love the SSTs , aggressive look, sound nice, that was my 1st tire choice when I lifted my truck but they didn't have them stock and the shop owner recommended me the Ridge Grapplers ... can't go wrong with the Cooper STT Pros
 

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OhD@hm! lol ..

They really suck in the snow eh? Like what is it you don't like ...
They do. They get to hard, no siping. Those big blocks are the opposite of what a snow tires needs. Ice performance was horrid. If the snow was fresh they did ok, still not the grip I want. Once the snow is packed down and the temps drop they are super slippery. KO2, Falkens, Michelin etc are way better. I chase snow storms as I’m a ski freak so I demand more than the average person. Driving in 2wd is not an option with them, even with a 200+lb fiberglass canopy. Plus I drive faster than most and need confidence in my tires.
I do love their lack of hwy noise and dry pavement performance.
 
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They do. They get to hard, no siping. Those big blocks are the opposite of what a snow tires needs. Ice performance was horrid. If the snow was fresh they did ok, still not the grip I want. Once the snow is packed down and the temps drop they are super slippery. KO2, Falkens, Michelin etc are way better. I chase snow storms as I’m a ski freak so I demand more than the average person. Driving in 2wd is not an option with them, even with a 200+lb fiberglass canopy. Plus I drive faster than most and need confidence in my tires.
I do love their lack of hwy noise and dry pavement performance.
Well that is good to know lol ...
 

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It's finally time to replace my crap stock tires on my 2017 1500 Laramie. I do all on road driving so I'm looking for something that's no noisier than stock, and is good in rain and snow. Hopefully something that looks better than stock too. I'm in Connecticut and our winters give snow, slush, snow / rain and some freezing rain.

I've seen people recommend the Nitto Recon Grapplers or the Ridge Grapplers - how are they in snow, rain and slush? Any other suggestions?

Thanks much

Since you live in Connecticut. Surprised you don't have two sets of tires. One for Summer and one for Winter.

I've never found any tires that are all that great for both seasons. Some are Ok.
Temp is a factor, almost as much as snow.
 

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I just put Continental terrain HT. Handle well in dry and wet roads. Should handle light snow , but I’m retired and if there’s deep snow, I don’t have to go anywhere.
 
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I've thought about it but I don't do enough driving to justify them. Bought my truck new in November of 17 and it only has 22,000 on it. For a while I was working in an office which was 16 miles round trip, but since March 2020 (covid) been working from home. So I don't want to waste money on snows if I can get a decent all season tire.
 

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I've thought about it but I don't do enough driving to justify them. Bought my truck new in November of 17 and it only has 22,000 on it. For a while I was working in an office which was 16 miles round trip, but since March 2020 (covid) been working from home. So I don't want to waste money on snows if I can get a decent all season tire.

Stay away from any "AT" tire if you are mostly happy with the stock RS-A's.

The tire for you would be the Michelin Defender if the RS-A's were ok for you, the Michelins will be drastically better than them. They are the best "Road" tire you can get for a truck.
 
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I've thought about it but I don't do enough driving to justify them. Bought my truck new in November of 17 and it only has 22,000 on it. For a while I was working in an office which was 16 miles round trip, but since March 2020 (covid) been working from home. So I don't want to waste money on snows if I can get a decent all season tire.

Your story sounds like mine. 2017 bought new, mine has 27K miles on it now.

Im also in CT and I also need new tires. For me its between the Wild Peak 3 or Michelin Defender LTX...obviously 2 fairly different tires, but I need the same as you: quiet, good all-season performance. The Defender is probably best but is a bit more expensive. Hoping that Costco does 100.00 off a set next month (currently they are doing it on Firestone/Bridgestone) at which point Ill probably bite.

I can get the Defenders for a good price right now (hint: Amazon) but I dont know of any shop I trust to install them and get it right....our clad wheels seem to be sensitive to balancing. Im not sure Costco can get it right on the first try either, but I know they will make it right eventually.
 

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Your story sounds like mine. 2017 bought new, mine has 27K miles on it now.

Im also in CT and I also need new tires. For me its between the Wild Peak 3 or Michelin Defender LTX...obviously 2 fairly different tires, but I need the same as you: quiet, good all-season performance. The Defender is probably best but is a bit more expensive. Hoping that Costco does 100.00 off a set next month (currently they are doing it on Firestone/Bridgestone) at which point Ill probably bite.

I can get the Defenders for a good price right now (hint: Amazon) but I dont know of any shop I trust to install them and get it right....our clad wheels seem to be sensitive to balancing. Im not sure Costco can get it right on the first try either, but I know they will make it right eventually.
You don't want the Wildpeaks if you want quiet or smooth. They are a aggressive AT tire that is really meant to be used offroad and in harsh conditions.

They are great tires, and I have had no issues with them per-say other than quicker wear than I would like however they are heavy and a bit noisy on the highway. If I was not in construction (site work) and need to travel in harsh winter conditions I would honestly go with Defenders.
 

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You don't want the Wildpeaks if you want quiet or smooth. They are a aggressive AT tire that is really meant to be used offroad and in harsh conditions.

They are great tires, and I have had no issues with them per-say other than quicker wear than I would like however they are heavy and a bit noisy on the highway. If I was not in construction (site work) and need to travel in harsh winter conditions I would honestly go with Defenders.

I was leaning towards the Michelins already, but just cant pull the trigger.

I put about 5 or 6K miles per year on my RAM. Debating if its worth it to buy the most expensive (Defender LTX) because the tires will most likely need to be replaced due to age long before they run out of tread. No towing or off-roading and only rarely haul heavy stuff in the bed.
 

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I installed a set of Pirelli Scorpion AT plus on my truck back in February. They have been the best handling tires I have ever owned. Incredible in Wisconsin snow storms, rain, and excellent dry handling as well. I went with LT275/65R20.
 

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I put the Defenders on last summer after the stock GY tires wore out at 20k miles. I tow a boat in the summer and sled trailer in the winter through snow and on frozen lakes.
I rate the Defenders as very good in dry and heavy rain conditions. I'm disappointed in the traction provided in snow and on the lakes whether towing or not. I'd rate them as good for winter conditions which is way better than the SRA's.
If I could do it over I would likely try the Pirelli Scorpion Verde AS Plus III. We have the AS Plus II on our small SUV and they pull really well through the snow but I don't tow with that car.
Lots of good choices out there. Good luck.
 

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Since you live in Connecticut. Surprised you don't have two sets of tires. One for Summer and one for Winter.

I've never found any tires that are all that great for both seasons. Some are Ok.
Temp is a factor, almost as much as snow.

^^^^^^^
This is the honest truth. I don't believe there's any magic tire design or tire compound that performs exceptionally for all seasons.

Also, I seriously do not want to wreck my truck and want to stay alive for a few years.

I started using Michelin LTX MS2 for summer tires about 16 years ago. They're incredibly smooth & grippy on dry or wet pavement but very marginal in cold weather with deep or slushy snow.
Maybe OK for a light dusting of snow. YMMV :cool:

I replaced them last year with Michelin Defender LTX MS. I believe this tire is almost identical with the same qualities. (moved from Tundra rims to Ram rims and told the dealership to keep their OEM tires)

I use BFG All Terrain KO2 for winter and have since 2008. I find them excellent for deep or slushy snow and not bad for dry or wet pavement. They're marginal for black ice though.

I live in a rural area and the streets very often don't get plowed for 24-36 hours after a big dump. The BFGs make it easy to run to the store when no cars can get out of my area. :cool:

One final consideration;

At least here where I live in Canada, the only place that provides a road hazard guarantee (that I could find) is Costco.

I replaced one of my Michelin Defenders recently after picking up a roofing nail. The nail was located exactly between the sidewall & tread block and couldn't be repaired.

That cost me $445 CDN. If I had spent a few more $ and bought the tires at Costco, the cost would have been almost nothing with 2/32" of tread wear.

Live & learn. :cool:
 
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