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After many hours of intensive labor, I got the cam out. 185k miles, started ticking at 140k
Well, half the camshaft battle...
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Thanks for sharing, did you get lifters out? Or I guess that is why you say half the battle, lifters next.
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Curious...can you remove the cam on a 5.7 without removing the heads?
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I removed heads and lifters first. Half the battle refers to Disassembly and now, reassembly... lol
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Do you have a pic of the lifter for this lobe? How about a couple more pics from different angles of damaged lobe?
I'm trying to wrap my eyeballs around the shape of the lobe and where the d aimage is relative to peak lift. All just curiousities on my part, scrap it if time consuming.
I'm Impressed it made it as long as it did after first tick heard (fth). Red Line oil?
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I have another post showing the seized lifter. The cam lobe is almost completely round. The head was carboned up because exhaust port was barely, if at all, opening. I can attach more pics when I get home this evening.
I used redline one time around 70000miles, then went PUP 5w20. I changed every 8 to 10k miles.
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The note at the bottom might interest you.This is from the 700 page printed owners manual for my 2014.You used to be able to get this manual from FCA,as far as i know,this printed manual is no longer available though,but even FCA says 5W-30 is okay
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I actually meant 5w30 lol
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@CunningStunt I'm curious if you're replacing or reusing your timing chain? And/Or have at least inspected for stretch? I ve got approx 125k miles on my truck and wondering if I should plan to replace while there....probably already answering my own question.
Also planning to reuse or replace head bolts?
Assuming this weekend will be your installations? Good luck! Ill be watching intently.
Also planning to reuse or replace head bolts?
Assuming this weekend will be your installations? Good luck! Ill be watching intently.
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I am not replacing timing chain this go around. Mainly cus $$ and I am maintaining timing to minimize difficulty. THis is my first time this deep in an engine.
I did inspect head bolts and they are SAT and I plan to reuse. Just make sure they do not appear stretched.
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Did you remove the OCV and check for any metal contamination? These engines are not supposed to be repaired if there are any signs of metal shavings from this failure.
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I don't buy this...I keep hearing this and I understand the "concern", however the lower end of these engines are tanky and even if I found metal, I would still move forward with a cam installation to buy me enough time to work 5 jobs for a few months to afford a new vehicle...
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Metal in the Oil Control valve by the looks of that cam there is allot of metal in the engine meaning main and rod bearings, and head bolts should always be replaced
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Respectfully disagree. Ask any Chrysler Tech with some time under his belt. The head bolts are fine to be reused at least once and as for the metal, that cam over 40-50k miles and all the oil changes and a good oil filter, those bearings are fine. She was purring like a kitten other than wobble at certain rpm's due to the misfire.
But, once I get it running again I will keep everyone posted, and if I have any issues with rod bearings I will humbly admit you were right.
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Metal shavings go from cam to pan...Picked up by pump(if small enough to make it by the pick-up screen) then pumped through oil filter. Any metal that may get by filter to bearings gets imbedded in bearings, by design...Bearing material is soft for a reason. The head bolts are fine to be reused....right until the point that they break. Metal stretches, then breaks. That's the risk you take reusing them...They've been stretched. It's a risk, not a certainty, which those "techs" should tell you about.
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Head bolts are tty I believe, I personally would not chance reusing them.
All that metal floating around in there would worry the hell out of me. Personally, I would tear it down as much as I could to clean it out, even pull the oil pan, etc. Another big chance to take.
Even with that, buy yourself some bulk cheap oil and the cheapest oil filters you can, fill it, run for 30 minutes or so, drain, and repeat. Several times.
Wish you the best on your repairs.
All that metal floating around in there would worry the hell out of me. Personally, I would tear it down as much as I could to clean it out, even pull the oil pan, etc. Another big chance to take.
Even with that, buy yourself some bulk cheap oil and the cheapest oil filters you can, fill it, run for 30 minutes or so, drain, and repeat. Several times.
Wish you the best on your repairs.
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They're torque to angle.
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when i did mine, the pickup tube screen was damn near clogged up with tiny metal specs
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Yes, torque plus angle.
Go ahead then, reuse them. I wouldn't.
The cost of a set of new head bolts will be way less than the headache and heartache if you break one off down in the block.
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