Synthetic Oil

The Critic · Aug 3, 2022

Burla said:
Oddly, in the battle of hemi tick as ram forum regulars know about my truck with recordings, the only redline that had some tick was 10w30, which notably didnt have vii's. So in the battle of hemi tick, maybe vii's help some. These arent "short" tests, the truck ticked throughout that interval, but doesnt tick throughout other weights entire interval. It is what it is, I report the results there are somethings left unexplained.

To be honest, if you consider how inexpensive these engines are, I’m not sure why we even care.

Burn2k12Ram · Aug 3, 2022

HEMIMANN said:
Yes, @Burla created another hoarder........

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Glad to see you got it in this time, no "failcarrier mishaps" this time

got my 5w30 coming soon.

Burla · Aug 3, 2022

The Critic said:
To be honest, if you consider how inexpensive these engines are, I’m not sure why we even care.

If you win the hemi tick lotto, you would understand and you would follow the work that was done here, this I promise you. Until then and hopefully that day never comes, you get to be "critical". But the more you read this forum, the more you will see for most guys this is the only answer. Even replacing cam and lifters is hit or miss if it corrects tick. So you are right, literally it would take an engine change for the best shot at it, however then you still have a hemi and hemi's are all susceptible to it. Hemi ownership becomes a quagmire and a riddle Wrapped in a Mystery Inside an Enigma when that engine starts ticking, the easiest fix, try a lubrication strategy. Unless you like hearing your truck knocking, then by all means just ignore it, we have a group of those guys too, wear it like a badge of honor.

My hemi tick started at 3500 miles new and according to dealer is normal, should I have bought a new engine? I wish I had that money.

HEMIMANN · Aug 3, 2022

As a 6.4L Hemi owner, and one that tows 3/4 ton loads occasionally during hot summers as do many members, I have zero interest in 0W-20 or 5W-20.

30 and up is all I care about for serious trucking.

HEMIMANN · Aug 3, 2022

Burn2k12Ram said:
Glad to see you got it in this time, no "failcarrier mishaps" this time got my 5w30 coming soon.

Well, I wouldn't say "no" - United Package Smashers still bashed in a corner of a case. No leaks, though. A bunch of these guys throw packages around carelessly, management works them to the bone. Nobody cares about anything anymore. Much better society now.

Burla · Aug 3, 2022

HEMIMANN said:
As a 6.4L Hemi owner, and one that tows 3/4 ton loads occasionally during hot summers as do many members, I have zero interest in 0W-20 or 5W-20.

30 and up is all I care about for serious trucking.

the reason it came up was for some uknown reason rich, I mean rick, order 0w40 for his wife, unless she ordered it? See I gave him an out, blame it on the girl. And he wants to mix it to get rid of it. so what would you do? just bite the bullet and run the 0w40, which is what I'd probably do.

Wild one · Aug 3, 2022

Burla said:
the reason it came up was for some uknown reason rich order 0w40 for his wife, unless she ordered it? See I gave him an out, blame it on the girl. And he wants to mix it to get rid of it. so what would you do? just bite the bullet and run the 0w40, which is what I'd probably do.

My running shoes don't run fast enough anymore to blame it on the boss Mike, I learned along time ago,frying pans hurt when they hit you upside the head,lol. Years ago when we'd only been together a few months,we were having the typical new couple argument,and the girl went to hit the light dimmer switch and missed,and she punched a hole right through the wall,4 hours later after patching the hole,i decided it might not be all that wise to argue with her anymore,lol.She only weighed about 130 lbs then,but she was the middle child in 5,so she was tougher then she looked :Big Laugh:

Burla · Aug 3, 2022

My wife is the boss for a complete different reason, as in if I like boom boom time better she be the one in charge. There is a man cost for every argument I win that I dont want to pay.

Wild one · Aug 3, 2022

Burla said:
My wife is the boss for a complete different reason, as in if I like boom boom time better she be the one in charge. There is a man cost for every argument I win that I dont want to pay.

Any man who's been married 10+ years,and thinks he's the boss in his own house,is seriously mistaken,we're only the boss,when the wife lets us think we're the boss :Big Laugh:

The Critic · Aug 3, 2022

Burla said:
If you win the hemi tick lotto, you would understand and you would follow the work that was done here, this I promise you. Until then and hopefully that day never comes, you get to be "critical". But the more you read this forum, the more you will see for most guys this is the only answer. Even replacing cam and lifters is hit or miss if it corrects tick. So you are right, literally it would take an engine change for the best shot at it, however then you still have a hemi and hemi's are all susceptible to it. Hemi ownership becomes a quagmire and a riddle Wrapped in a Mystery Inside an Enigma when that engine starts ticking, the easiest fix, try a lubrication strategy. Unless you like hearing your truck knocking, then by all means just ignore it, we have a group of those guys too, wear it like a badge of honor.

My hemi tick started at 3500 miles new and according to dealer is normal, should I have bought a new engine? I wish I had that money.

If the engine ticks but functions correctly, I could seriously care less.

Burla · Aug 3, 2022

The Critic said:
If the engine ticks but functions correctly, I could seriously care less.

stubborn, I like that. Like I said, hopefully you wont experience it. Just curious, you are notorious against boutiques, but you posted a couple cases of hpl. What was that choice about?

But, when it comes to tick there is a choice and most of the time it is that simple, one oil makes the tick go away, and all others makes it sound like rod knock from hell, and you really think you would run the oil that makes it knock? Or you still just don't believe it all? HPL is a good choice anyhow, probably the one oil out there that will keep the tick away even if you were prone to get it.

Burla · Aug 3, 2022

Wild one said:
Any man who's been married 10+ years,and thinks he's the boss in his own house,is seriously mistaken,we're only the boss,when the wife lets us think we're the boss

It doesnt mean we can't win though. Males and Females were never meant to have conversations, as in ever. So if you can keep conversations out of your days, you win. The second you open your mouth, you are doomed.

HEMIMANN · Aug 3, 2022

Which is why we created machinery to mess around with.

Wild one · Aug 3, 2022

HEMIMANN said:
Which is why we created machinery to mess around with.

And adopted dogs,so we could build a dog house to sleep in,even then sometimes Mans best friend won't even let us sleep in their house

tjfdesmo · Aug 3, 2022

Burla said:
My wife is the boss for a complete different reason, as in if I like boom boom time better she be the one in charge. There is a man cost for every argument I win that I dont want to pay.

My buddy has a photo of him on "Boom Boom Rock" in 'Nam. This is just a photo I lifted.

HEMIMANN · Aug 3, 2022

I sleep in my shop.

The Critic · Aug 3, 2022

Burla said:
stubborn, I like that. Like I said, hopefully you wont experience it. Just curious, you are notorious against boutiques, but you posted a couple cases of hpl. What was that choice about?

My HEMI has M1 EP 0W-20 in the sump. I plan to continue using it until I run out, which could be a few years. I am also under extended warranty for another 6 years, so it is probably wise to use an approved oil.

The HPL oils promise improved cleaning capabilities due to the AN and Ester content. This appealed to me because my two other vehicles have engines that are prone to oil consumption from piston ring deposits. Those two vehicles are well out-of-warranty. If I run HPL's entry-level oil for 10K intervals, then the cost is comparable to running Mobil 1 and changing every 5K, which is what I have been doing.

Burla · Aug 3, 2022

The Critic said:
My HEMI has M1 EP 0W-20 in the sump. I plan to continue using it until I run out, which could be a few years. I am also under extended warranty for another 6 years, so it is probably wise to use an approved oil.

Are they now on this approved list? I think m1 is in the same boat as redline or amsoil when they say it is "recomended" for ms6395, but did they do the fleet test finally? We dont have current into over here. I know that oil is dexos cert, but fca?

The Critic · Aug 3, 2022

Burla said:
Are they now on this approved list? I think m1 is in the same boat as redline or amsoil when they say it is "recomended" for ms6395, but did they do the fleet test finally? We dont have current into over here. I know that oil is dexos cert, but fca?

Yes, they have done the fleet testing. I have an e-mail from a higher level ExxonMobil tech line representative stating they were in the process of the fleet testing, and this was over a year ago.

Travis8352 · Aug 3, 2022

Burla said:
Are they now on this approved list? I think m1 is in the same boat as redline or amsoil when they say it is "recomended" for ms6395, but did they do the fleet test finally? We dont have current into over here. I know that oil is dexos cert, but fca?

When i first got my truck the mobil oil recomendation on their site only recomended the super synthetic for the 5.7. Ever since stellantis took over it changed to varius mobil 1 products as well including EP 0w20

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