Oil Filter Thread

Travis8352 · Jul 31, 2022

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/amsoil-ea-011-oil-filter-cut-open.357839/

Heres an amsoil eao 11 cut open. The filter is 12 years old. Made in mexico even

corneileous · Aug 1, 2022

Travis8352 said:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/amsoil-ea-011-oil-filter-cut-open.357839/

Heres an amsoil eao 11 cut open. The filter is 12 years old. Made in mexico even

So, is that good? I’m assuming so if it got the approval from most of those over at BITOG.

I’m still actually in search of a good oil filter to settle on. I don’t know if I want to just keep using the Wix XP or if I want to try something different. I have pretty much settled on using the mobile one extended performance for my engine oil depending on how the oil analysis report comes back for the Schaeffers 9000.

Travis8352 · Aug 1, 2022

corneileous said:
So, is that good? I’m assuming so if it got the approval from most of those over at BITOG.

I’m still actually in search of a good oil filter to settle on. I don’t know if I want to just keep using the Wix XP or if I want to try something different. I have pretty much settled on using the mobile one extended performance for my engine oil depending on how the oil analysis report comes back for the Schaeffers 9000.

Yes its a good filter

Burla · Aug 2, 2022

That is what happens when you change your manufacturing from illinois to china? You are more dependent on the supply line. It might be the best choice, it might not, but just like everything else, we need options.

Today, Champion Laboratories maintains its American heritage and stronghold in USA manufacturing with headquarters in Albion, Illinois. In 2017, the company expanded its presence as a global supplier of quality filters by opening a facility in Shanghai, China.

Burla · Aug 2, 2022

I checked a couple of mine, all are a product of the usa on the filter itself. Maybe the new ones wont be? You guys that eventually get new 20-820's let us know country of origin posted on filter. Maybe the raw materials are made in china or some of the materials are made in china and they can't get them?

CheechDogg.0n37s · Aug 2, 2022

Burla said:
I checked a couple of mine, all are a product of the usa on the filter itself. Maybe the new ones wont be? You guys that eventually get new 20-820's let us know country of origin posted on filter. Maybe the raw materials are made in china or some of the materials are made in china and they can't get them?

All the ones I have also say product of USA ... nice !!! muahaha !!!

HEMIMANN · Aug 2, 2022

Who knew Ukraine was makin' oil filters while at war?

or

China can't spell USA

CheechDogg.0n37s · Aug 2, 2022

HEMIMANN said:
Who knew Ukraine was makin' oil filters while at war?

or

China can't spell USA

Lol my laptop is the one that can't spell, or maybe those sticky keyboard keys? Lol

tul9033 · Aug 4, 2022

Burla said:
I had the issue with puro and ticking, and yes it has been updated, but I don't prefer puro or wix. I only use RP 20-820 and already bought a lifetime supply. I wouldnt use blends cellulose stiffens and then as bad as wix is the wix would be better then stiffened cellulose. I would have no problem using RP cousin the Amsoil EA either, or Fram Ultra as a second option for me.

Where did you get the 20-820? Doesn't look like Amazon is carrying them.

Burn2k12Ram · Aug 4, 2022

tul9033 said:
Where did you get the 20-820? Doesn't look like Amazon is carrying them.

He, myself and others have stocked up on them from when they were available.

tul9033 · Aug 4, 2022

Burla said:
rp 20-820 3.81 x 3.81 x 4 inches

fram xg2 ‎4.06 x 4.06 x 4.63 inches

so yes sir, that is some beefy filter right there, stock is rising.

Has Fram changed the size of the XG2? Current specs on site are

Height	3.984 (in.)
Outside Diameter	3.656 (in.)

Burla · Aug 4, 2022

Either way they will fit, many guys running them, or consider rp 20-500 which so far are in stock.

We have been hoarding those 20-820's since 2017, if you guys really like them as much as I do, if you get a chance, buy a case and store them.

tul9033 · Aug 4, 2022

Black1500Ram said:
Thanks for the info.
The XG10575 is listed as 16-28psi on fram.com, coincidentally the highest rated filter in burla's graph also.

If the xg2 is 12psi and 20-820 is 11-17psi, unless it's truly 16psi+, I'm still curious what makes the 20-820 > xg2.

XG10575 vs rp 20-820 is only $1 different so no big worry there.
Going to read more.

Here's the specs off the Fram website. RP doesn't list any dimensional or psi specs. Looks like the RP 20-500 may be be the same size as the XG10575. I've been using the XG10575 on my 2019 since new. The XG10060 is the recommended filter for the 5.7 on the Fram site.

	FRAM ULTRA XG10060	FRAM ULTRA XG10575	FRAM ULTRA XG2
Height	3.33	4.06	3.984
Inside Diameter	M22x1.5	M22x1.5	M22x1.5
Outside Diameter	3	2.984	2.813
Anti-Drainback Valve	YES	YES	YES
By-Pass Valve Setting	9-15	16-28	12
Base Gasket I.D.	2.45	2.454	2.422
Base Gasket O.D.	2.76	2.756	2.813

tul9033 · Aug 4, 2022

If the RP 20-500 is a match for the Amsoil EA017 the specs are as follows, which should be a nice fit for the 5.7

	Amsoil EA017
Height	4.45
Inside Diameter	M22-1.5
Outside Diameter	2.96
Anti-Drainback Valve	YES
By-Pass Valve Setting	18-24
Base Gasket I.D.	2.39
Base Gasket O.D.	2.76

Burla · Aug 4, 2022

tul9033 said:
If the RP 20-500 is a match for the Amsoil EA017 the specs are as follows, which should be a nice fit for the 5.7

Amsoil EA017
Height 4.45
Inside Diameter M22-1.5
Outside Diameter 2.96
Anti-Drainback Valve YES
By-Pass Valve Setting 18-24
Base Gasket I.D. 2.39
Base Gasket O.D. 2.76

So that is the 20-500 clone? Still on amazon the 20-500 is only 11.99, so that is dirt cheap and is a good option. If I didnt have to many filters in stock, I think I'd be buying a case of those.

HEMIMANN · Aug 4, 2022

Here's the surface area and filter size comparison I provided a year ago.........

Oil Filter Thread

wow wow wow wow wow! Where'd you get ahold of this data, @Burla ? Is this 'new & improved' Fram Ultra Synthetic XG? It shows best combo of efficiency AND dirt holding capacity. Better than RP! so am I understanding this right that the Fram US XG10575 is the part number to go for?

www.ramforum.com

Black1500Ram · Aug 4, 2022

Edit* hemi beat me to it

Big Blue Hemi · Aug 8, 2022

Every place that I have checked says that the 20-500 does not fit the 2012 Ram 5.7 but don’t know why.
Threads should be the same so why are they saying it won’t fit?

corneileous · Aug 8, 2022

Big Blue Hemi said:
Every place that I have checked says that the 20-500 does not fit the 2012 Ram 5.7 but don’t know why.
Threads should be the same so why are they saying it won’t fit?

I’m sure the guys will correct me if I’m wrong but if memory serves me correctly, I think the reason why they don’t call for that oil filter is because of its size and the location of where it’s installed on the engine.

HEMIMANN · Aug 8, 2022

Apparently people don't like reading answers to their questions posted earlier.

I'll say it yet again - oil filter manufacturers will only publish direct exchange equivalent filter sizes - NOT larger ones.
This time I'm not repeating why, again.

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