How To: Install a 2018 4C (UAQ/UAS) Radio in 2013 - 2017 RAM

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Is there a USB hub option that would fit the Jumpseat console that has 2 USB connections (that both would work for AA/Carplay)?

I am currently using the Chrysler 200 hub but have 2 phones and depending on what I am doing I have to open the console and swap the cords around. Would love to be able to leave the cords plugged in and just connect which phone I want to use. I have the phone end of the cords run out around the cup holder trim so I can get to that easy enough

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Is there a USB hub option that would fit the Jumpseat console that has 2 USB connections (that both would work for AA/Carplay)?

I am currently using the Chrysler 200 hub but have 2 phones and depending on what I am doing I have to open the console and swap the cords around. Would love to be able to leave the cords plugged in and just connect which phone I want to use. I have the phone end of the cords run out around the cup holder trim so I can get to that easy enough

Thanks,

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I thought the Chrysler 200 hub had two USB ports? I went with a 5th gen media hub because the Chrysler one was on back order. Still working on my install though. And mines going in a 2016 center console.
 

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I thought the Chrysler 200 hub had two USB ports? I went with a 5th gen media hub because the Chrysler one was in back order. Still working on my install though. And mines going in a 2016 center console.
Yes the Chrysler 200 xxxxx703Aa has 2 active ports... So I'm confused by that as well.
 

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Yes the Chrysler 200 xxxxx703Aa has 2 active ports... So I'm confused by that as well.

Sorry, I have the "Compass" hub. I thought I bought the 200 version

So will both connections work on the 200 hub for AA/CP?

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Infotainment does offer a "4c Seat Interface" for ~ $200-$300 (made by Nav-Tv I believe) that's supposed to fix it, but doesn't consistently do so. ...

Another option that has worked for some... Is to swap out the module under the driver seat with the 2018 version (CSWM .. Comfort Seat & Wheel Module ... ~$100? )

Somewhere in this thread or the heated seat thread (How-To: Add Heated/Ventilated seats and Heated Wheel to Express/Tradesman) is a post by @Roman217 about it.. if I can find it.
So still no luck with the 4c retrofit harness they sent me, i even got a brand new head unit sent from them, and still no luck, tried it with and without the harness. Heated/cooled seats appear on screen but still greyed out. What is the part number for the 2018 module to swap out?
 

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So still no luck with the 4c retrofit harness they sent me, i even got a brand new head unit sent from them, and still no luck, tried it with and without the harness. Heated/cooled seats appear on screen but still greyed out. What is the part number for the 2018 module to swap out?

I still can't find the @Roman217 's reference, but I'm 99% sure it's CSWM Pn: 68217268af
 

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So still no luck with the 4c retrofit harness they sent me, i even got a brand new head unit sent from them, and still no luck, tried it with and without the harness. Heated/cooled seats appear on screen but still greyed out. What is the part number for the 2018 module to swap out?
The BCM is actually responsible for the this one. Starting in 2015, they changed what CAN message is sent by the BCM for engine RPM. The UAQ radios look for a different message than the previous radios.

The radio looks for the RPM message to check whether the engine is running and only allows the heated/vented seats to be toggled while the engine is on.
 

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The BCM is actually responsible for the this one. Starting in 2015, they changed what CAN message is sent by the BCM for engine RPM. The UAQ radios look for a different message than the previous radios.

The radio looks for the RPM message to check whether the engine is running and only allows the heated/vented seats to be toggled while the engine is on.
So, New CSWM won't fix the issue in 13-15 trucks at all? ... and it sounds like InfoT 4c seat module still isn't awesome correct bus messages
 

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Sorry, I have the "Compass" hub. I thought I bought the 200 version

So will both connections work on the 200 hub for AA/CP?

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Yes they will as long as you find the one mentioned in post 5 vs base model 200 hub which doesn't work at (I've tried it). The xxxx703AA Chrysler 200 hub has been on National Backorder since November of last year with no ETA. Have to find a used one from salvage vehicle.

The Dual USB Port 2018 ram hub mentioned in post 1 & 5 also has both ports active.
 

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The BCM is actually responsible for the this one. Starting in 2015, they changed what CAN message is sent by the BCM for engine RPM. The UAQ radios look for a different message than the previous radios.

The radio looks for the RPM message to check whether the engine is running and only allows the heated/vented seats to be toggled while the engine is on.
Thank You for the reply! So with the engine running shouldn’t it see an RPM signal and let it work? Are there any solutions to make this work? Also i will attach picture of cwsm module. Thanks.
 

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Thank You for the reply! So with the engine running shouldn’t it see an RPM signal and let it work? Are there any solutions to make this work? Also i will attach picture of cwsm module. Thanks.
You already have the newer PN seat module.
Your basically out of options because the 4c Seat Module isn't able to change the messages from your 2015 bcm to the correct messages the new radio is looking for.

(Thanks @Roman217 for the extra piece of the puzzle)
 

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You already have the newer PN seat module.
Your basically out of options because the 4c Seat Module isn't able to change the messages from your 2015 bcm to the correct messages the new radio is looking for.

(Thanks @Roman217 for the extra piece of the puzzle)
Wow… that’s a real bummer… Thank You guys for all the help, and your time. I really appreciate it! Looks like i will have to return everything to INFOTAINMENT. Car play is nice but cooled seats are more important in south Florida lol! On that note. I have an extra compass media hub for sale is anyone needs one. Bought one before they warrantied mine, and dealer won’t accept it back because it’s been plugged in.
 

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I got a used Infotainment UAS with single zone bezel and couldn't figure out my HVAC issues. After reading through this thread I contacted Mpgrimm2 a few times via email and had some conversations with him over the phone.

He got me the harness I needed to convert from MTC to ATC, along with the humidity sensors, etc. Everything worked exactly as described through conversation with him and looking through a few threads here.

Many thanks to Mike and this great forum. I have a 2015 standard cab 1500 and have upgraded quite a few things myself over the years on many vehicles. I really think the Ram is one of the easiest vehicles to work on.

Anyways, thanks to listening to me ramble. I'll keep lurking and help when I can. Thanks again Mpgrimm2 you're a class act.
 

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I have a 2017 Ram Sport 1500. I just put a UAQ in my truck from a 2020/21 jeep wrangler. Everything works except car play because I am waiting on the USB hub and harness adapter. Heated seats and steering wheel soft buttons even work. Here is the info.
Any issues with this part # and were you able to get android auto to work?
 

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Hello, I trying to get the media adapter harness. I can not seem to find one or the people making them. Any of you all know where to get one?
 

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Just finished creating my media hub faceplate/mounting bracket. I’m swapping in a console from a 2016 and for impatient with waiting on the 2017 Chrysler 200 media hubs to become available. I ordered a 5th gen hub and then attempted to make a faceplate/bracket to install it without having to do any cutting/modifying of the existing hub opening. Took me WAY longer than it should have as this was my first time making/3D printing anything but I think it came out pretty good!
Any chance you want share the file? I have a 3D printer and would love to print one.
 

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Wow… that’s a real bummer… Thank You guys for all the help, and your time. I really appreciate it! Looks like i will have to return everything to INFOTAINMENT. Car play is nice but cooled seats are more important in south Florida lol! On that note. I have an extra compass media hub for sale is anyone needs one. Bought one before they warrantied mine, and dealer won’t accept it back because it’s been plugged in.
I will buy it from you, please message me.
 
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