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Is there a way to do this without removing the oil pan?
I think someone mentioned a specific offset wrench for the front pan bolts and I thought I saw where the pan gasket is separate in the front of the pan but it could me just dreaming of the perfect engineered engine… most small Hemi’s I’ve worked on that to pull the pump you need to drop the pan and replace the gasket which means to lift the engine up off the mounts.. but maybe you’ll find another way ?
I just do not see a way to do it and be 100% sure timing is correct with out pulling oil pump cause you cant even pull chain guide with pump on and without that slack you would not have enough of slack with just the tensioner alone to slip the chain on crank gear but even if that was true and could be done you have no way to see if that mark is lined up. I know its a pita to drop oil pan for that one bolt in pick up tube its a **** design but timing and the risk of doing it again spend the time now make sure its right so you do not have to do it again.
Yes you can do it without 100% removing the pan loosen the rear pan bolts remove all front bolts let the front of pan drop down a little and you will be able to get the oil pump pickup tube bolt out of the oil pump this is how I do it works every time.
Yes as stated above I should have cleared that up already yes pan just has to be lowered enough to get pick up tube bolt out no need for it to come all the way out
What size is the pickup tube bolt? Looking at some different offset style wrenches.
10mm or 13mm hard to say it's been over a year since I done mine and good luck with off set hunt its tight and about 1/2 inch + below oil pan gasket circle is thread end of that bolt arrow bolt head not easy to get with out pan dropped.
13mm all I did was get a regular cheap craftsman or any make wrench heat it with the torch stick it in the vice and give it a slight bend.
Do I need to tie the pickup tube or anything to keep it in place or is it rigid?
it's rigid and bolted in place again elsewhere
I remember when pulling my timing cover I didnt know about the bolts from oil pan to timing cover and thankfully i realized it before causing any damage lol
you will actually have to force it down a bit its still bolted to the bottom of the motor also dont forget to replace the o ring on the oil pump pickup.
**EDIT** found the page in the manual (11635) - two marks on the phasor, one on crank.
Excellent question! I hope someone responds!
