6.4 HD Oil Question

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Congrats ... nothing to do what we are talking about but congrats.

You posted this: "I think you guys need to go back to oil school."

Now you're contradicting yourself. You trolling on purpose? You're not only adding no value, you are posting harmful content.
 

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There ya go, your fallacy is thinking 40 weight goes to 30 weight ...
dang dude, we were doing so well, read the uoa's, it is fact. All nine uoa's are 0w40 at end of interval in thirty weight. It isnt 40 weight that is the problem, it is the swing winter rating to weight. The larger the swing, the less stable the viscosity, 0w40 is a huge swing. Maybe we have different oil schools.
 

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You posted this: "I think you guys need to go back to oil school."

Now you're contradicting yourself. You trolling on purpose? You're not only adding no value, you are posting harmful content.

It's the only Mobil school I could find.
 

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dang dude, we were doing so well, read the uoa's, it is fact. All nine uoa's are 0w40 at end of interval in thirty weight. It isnt 40 weight that is the problem, it is the swing winter rating to weight. The larger the swing, the less stable the viscosity, 0w40 is a huge swing. Maybe we have different oil schools.

The recommended interval is not 10K!!!!!!!!!! as I posted before.
 

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The recommended interval is not 10K!!!!!!!!!! as I posted before.
OK man, for the last time, the 9 posted uoa's all are under 8k miles. Despite them being under 8k miles, the 0w40 is all now in thirty weight, super easy to see that fact. Don't get in your own way of learning something. Try a new response, like awe Burla thanks I got it.
 

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OK man, for the last time, the 9 posted uoa's all are under 8k miles. Despite them being under 8k miles, the 0w40 is all now in thirty weight, super easy to see that fact. Don't get in your own way of learning something. Try a new response, like awe Burla thanks I got it.

Now post 9 showing that 30 weight does not sheer down to 20 weight.
 

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I don't do tricks because tricks is for kids, figure it out, good day.
 

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OK man, for the last time, the 9 posted uoa's all are under 8k miles. Despite them being under 8k miles, the 0w40 is all now in thirty weight, super easy to see that fact. Don't get in your own way of learning something. Try a new response, like awe Burla thanks I got it.
I guess Zoe is one of those people who you just can't get no lern'in into 'em.
 

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With all respect sir, what hemimann is saying is from his understanding of the life span of 0w40, in fact proven with uoa's at ram forum, 0w40 PUP the intended oil for the 6.4, spends like less then 10-20% of it's lifespan in 40 weight on a 10k mile interval. So literally 80% of the time that 0w40 is actually a 5w30. Many were posted here lately, mind you this is a 4k mile interval, note the cSt viscosity in 3 uoa's, it is in 30 weight below 12.25. If FCA wanted the 6.4 in 40 weight, they would have recomended 15w40 like everyone else. Manu's are using 0w40 for a different purpose lately. Many other uoa's show 0w40 PUP in the 10's with more miles, you go long enough that 0w40 will be a 20 weight. Because the 0w40 PUP isnt dexos or other stay in grade specs, it is full of vii's that shear and are useless molecules not helping lubrication. Why someone would use a 30 weight instead of 0w40 in a 6.4 is to have less vii's. It doesnt matter in the middle of the interval whether you chose 0w40 or 0w30 or 5w30 or 10w30, in the middle of the interval the weight will be 30 weight, FACT. Another fact, all of those 30 weights will be lubricating better because they will have less vii's, so less useless molecules, fact 2 and why hemimann says what he says.

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With all respect sir, what hemimann is saying is from his understanding of the life span of 0w40, in fact proven with uoa's at ram forum, 0w40 PUP the intended oil for the 6.4, spends like less then 10-20% of it's lifespan in 40 weight on a 10k mile interval. So literally 80% of the time that 0w40 is actually a 5w30. Many were posted here lately, mind you this is a 4k mile interval, note the cSt viscosity in 3 uoa's, it is in 30 weight below 12.25. If FCA wanted the 6.4 in 40 weight, they would have recomended 15w40 like everyone else. Manu's are using 0w40 for a different purpose lately. Many other uoa's show 0w40 PUP in the 10's with more miles, you go long enough that 0w40 will be a 20 weight. Because the 0w40 PUP isnt dexos or other stay in grade specs, it is full of vii's that shear and are useless molecules not helping lubrication. Why someone would use a 30 weight instead of 0w40 in a 6.4 is to have less vii's. It doesnt matter in the middle of the interval whether you chose 0w40 or 0w30 or 5w30 or 10w30, in the middle of the interval the weight will be 30 weight, FACT. Another fact, all of those 30 weights will be lubricating better because they will have less vii's, so less useless molecules, fact 2 and why hemimann says what he says.

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Just use the dam 0-W40 recommend oil. It meets All of the temp and running trates. None of this 5 now, 20 then etc. just use the correct oil, period. All the rest is just engineering gsrbleband not useful, value information.
 

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Just use the dam 0-W40 recommend oil. It meets All of the temp and running trates. None of this 5 now, 20 then etc. just use the correct oil, period. All the rest is just engineering gsrbleband not useful, value information.

You would benefit from reading 4,000 posts of reader experiences, which is what the forum is for, instead of issuing uninformed platitudes that add no value to discussions.
 

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You would benefit from reading 4,000 posts of reader experiences, which is what the forum is for, instead of issuing uninformed platitudes that add no value to discussions.

Yes and after you do all that reading you will conclude PUP 0W40 is the correct oil.
 

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I have no comment if 0w40 PUP is the right oil or not, just that it isnt 0w40 for long, obviously. It still is a great oil imo. I am also saying certain 5w30's are just as good in the 6.4 if facts mean anything. If we are talking about feelings and not facts, I lose as already noted.
 

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LOL, I oh I can produce 9 5w30 uoas from the blackstone thread on ram forum probably in the first 4-5 pages, and if telling you to figure it out is conceding, well there ya go.

All said, it still is a top choice for the 6.4, especially one w/o hemi tick.
 

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I was wrong, now that I looked at the blackstone thread, it took only the first 3 pages to have over 9 uoa's of 5w30 still in 5w30 operating viscosity. This was tons of fun, peace
 
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