First Oil Change Recommendations

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Just hit 1k miles, looking to do my first oil change on this 5.7. Couple questions -

1. Should I stick with factory recommended 5w20 while in warranty period? I think I prefer 5w30, but I'm warrantied for 100k miles. Probably gonna use Redline, but wondering if PUP or QS Ultimate Durability would be good enough at half the price. Also curious about Amsoil.
2. Is Lubegard even needed for new engines? Would using this now help prevent possible lifter tick in the future?
3. Gonna replace the stock oil filter with a RP 20-500 or should I go full monty and use a RP 20-820? See #4
4. Had a '14 RAM with the 5.7, and the oil filter was not easy to get to. This '22 seems even tighter. Anybody have an opinion on whether relocating the oil filter might possibly be a reason to void the warranty if I encounter engine issues down the road?

And on a sidebar, I was getting 19-20 highway mpg on my old truck, and so far this new one is barely breaking 17 mpg. Granted, the new truck has 3.92 vs 3.21 gears and LT off-road tires vs passenger touring tires but the window sticker says 22 mpg highway. Wishful thinking?
 

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Just hit 1k miles, looking to do my first oil change on this 5.7. Couple questions -

1. Should I stick with factory recommended 5w20 while in warranty period? I think I prefer 5w30, but I'm warrantied for 100k miles. Probably gonna use Redline, but wondering if PUP or QS Ultimate Durability would be good enough at half the price. Also curious about Amsoil.
Several people here prefer Red Line 5W30 to help keep the Hemi tick at bay. I chose to stick with PUP 5w 20 while still under warranty, to reduce the chances of having a warranty issue.
2. Is Lubegard even needed for new engines? Would using this now help prevent possible lifter tick in the future?
It helped with the Hemi tick on the 2017 Rebel I used to own, but I didn't start adding it until about 10k miles.
3. Gonna replace the stock oil filter with a RP 20-500 or should I go full monty and use a RP 20-820? See #4
I use RB 20-820. It's a ***** to get that big of a filter in and out, but I like the larger filtering surface area.
4. Had a '14 RAM with the 5.7, and the oil filter was not easy to get to. This '22 seems even tighter. Anybody have an opinion on whether relocating the oil filter might possibly be a reason to void the warranty if I encounter engine issues down the road?
It's definitely not any easier than a 4th gen. You won't void your warranty just by adding it. But if anything on the kit fails the warranty won't cover the repair if it causes engine damage. I opted not to add a remote filter and just put up with the mess and clean-up every oil change.

And on a sidebar, I was getting 19-20 highway mpg on my old truck, and so far this new one is barely breaking 17 mpg. Granted, the new truck has 3.92 vs 3.21 gears and LT off-road tires vs passenger touring tires but the window sticker says 22 mpg highway. Wishful thinking?
My fuel economy went down at first too. It eventually got better by about 2 mpg. Also, the difference between winter and summer blended fuel causes about a 1 mpg difference too.
 

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Just hit 1k miles, looking to do my first oil change on this 5.7. Couple questions -

1. Should I stick with factory recommended 5w20 while in warranty period? I think I prefer 5w30, but I'm warrantied for 100k miles. Probably gonna use Redline, but wondering if PUP or QS Ultimate Durability would be good enough at half the price. Also curious about Amsoil.
2. Is Lubegard even needed for new engines? Would using this now help prevent possible lifter tick in the future?
3. Gonna replace the stock oil filter with a RP 20-500 or should I go full monty and use a RP 20-820? See #4
4. Had a '14 RAM with the 5.7, and the oil filter was not easy to get to. This '22 seems even tighter. Anybody have an opinion on whether relocating the oil filter might possibly be a reason to void the warranty if I encounter engine issues down the road?

And on a sidebar, I was getting 19-20 highway mpg on my old truck, and so far this new one is barely breaking 17 mpg. Granted, the new truck has 3.92 vs 3.21 gears and LT off-road tires vs passenger touring tires but the window sticker says 22 mpg highway. Wishful thinking?

Just looked at the 2022 1500 owners manual it list 0w20 oil to be used, but 5w20 synthetic will be okay to use, as for when to do the first oil change for me always depended on how old the factory oil was when I made the purchase, I have experienced oil up to 6+ months old when buying a new vehicle thus the engines first oil change would be done within 1-2 months of buying...
 

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5W-30 is fine, and in fact preferred, for engine durability. The 0W and 20 nonsense is for miniscule fuel economy gains after the U.S. EPA stuck it to the car companies to raise their C.A.F.E. numbers. They can't say that in public, of course, or the EPA would fine them. I worked for an engine OEM. That's how it is.

Red Line is the premier oil, of course, requires no supplementation.

PUP 5W-30 I believe, still needs a moly boost, add Lube Gard if you choose it. PUP 0W-40 has boosted moly, but shears down too fast - don't use it (recommended for the 6.4 engine supposedly due to higher intended customer load profile).

Use RP or Fram Ultra oil filters. Get the biggest that fits. Ram has made too many front end variations to predict which will fit. This is a fact demonstrated in the filter thread.

I think it was @Wild one that did a dual remote mount oil filter kit.

Yes, wishful thinking. When I changed to AT tires from AS, my mileage went down 1.5 mpg. So beat it here in Siberia.
 

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Remote filters probably aren't wise to do,if you're worried about warrenty.They shouldn't affect warrenty,but these days, dealers and FCA/Stellentis will use any excuse to refuse a warrenty claim ,especially if it's a bigger claim ,like an engine. Up till about 2017 FCA said you could use 5W-30,but then they changed that,and from what i gather up,it was because of the government nannies claiming the trucks wouldn't meet their milege claims when using 5W-30. As long as the 5W-30 meets all Chrysler specs,there shouldn't be any issues with warrenty.
Read the note at the bottom,this is from the older 700 page printed owners manual.You'll note all they say is 5W-20 is better for cold weather starting and milege,you can be damn sure if they thought 5W-20 was best for engine longevity they'd be touting it to the moon and back.
 

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Only thing I can add is that I would never vary from the manufacturers recommendation of 5W-20. I don't believe there's any reason to and it's asking for trouble.
 

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Hi. I switched to Red Line at 300 miles on my 2020. Keep in mind that regardless of viscosity, Red Line doesn’t meet the MS6395 spec (if I recall correctly) so if you’re worried about the warranty, that in itself may be a show stopper. I, on the other hand, am counting on Red Line preventing me from ever needing to utilize the warranty, but that’s me ….
 

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I got this oil wrench from HF- best $10 you'll spend, save you a ton of time and muscle as the factory tightens the oil filter way past hand tight!
 

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Just looked at the 2022 1500 owners manual it list 0w20 oil to be used, but 5w20 synthetic will be okay to use, as for when to do the first oil change for me always depended on how old the factory oil was when I made the purchase, I have experienced oil up to 6+ months old when buying a new vehicle thus the engines first oil change would be done within 1-2 months of buying...
Not sure why you would worry about how old the oil is in a new engine.
It does not matter even a simple little bit. 1-2 months, in your example is BS........
I just bought my new one, and I will change it around 3 - 4,000 miles.
Today's engines and oils are much better from those in the past, there is
no need to get uptight. I will use a 0-20 semi-synthetic and filter and have it done at my local garage.
 

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What difference does it make that the new truck was manufactured 6 mos before you buy it?? It hasnt even been ran.
 

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What difference does it make that the new truck was manufactured 6 mos before you buy it?? It hasnt even been ran.
well if a truck bounced around a dealer lot for 6 months during winter just getting started moved over 2 spots and shut down for snow removal every day and no test drives the oil will be full of gas and water and an immediate change would be warranted

this is just a theoretical situation but it could easily happen in the north
 

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Not sure why you would worry about how old the oil is in a new engine.
It does not matter even a simple little bit. 1-2 months, in your example is BS........
I just bought my new one, and I will change it around 3 - 4,000 miles.
Today's engines and oils are much better from those in the past, there is
no need to get uptight. I will use a 0-20 semi-synthetic and filter and have it done at my local garage.
If you want to trust old oil that is 6+ months old in your engine that's your choice, my self I will not...
 

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I know on some of these Rams the factory oil filter can be a bear to get off. Just be prepared for that thing to be stuck.
^^ this… just did mine… wow. See my other thread. I tried a strap wrench, two different spring cup oil filter wrenches, and finally the kind that are like giant pliers finally got it off with MUCH swearing. Getting the new one on isn’t easy either. If you get the slightest amount of oil on your fingers you can’t get any purchase on it at all by hand.
 

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well if a truck bounced around a dealer lot for 6 months during winter just getting started moved over 2 spots and shut down for snow removal every day and no test drives the oil will be full of gas and water and an immediate change would be warranted

this is just a theoretical situation but it could easily happen in the north
I have seen this done when I lived in northern IA that saw winters temps at 10-40 below zero and yes some winters they had to move cars every day to plow the lot, all they would do is go down a row start all the cars in the row and then go back an start moving them to a new spot, this is why I do not trust old oil in a new vehicle...
 

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What difference does it make that the new truck was manufactured 6 mos before you buy it?? It hasnt even been ran.
Being FCA and others manufactures tell you to not use your oil for no longer then 12 months or 10K, the age of your oil should be important to all buyers, buyers should make sure they are not using oil that is older then the 12 months age limit listed in the owners manual before its first scheduled oil change...
 

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Being FCA and others manufactures tell you to not use your oil for no longer then 12 months or 10K, the age of your oil should be important to all buyers, buyers should make sure they are not using oil that is older then the 12 months age limit listed in the owners manual before its first scheduled oil change...
Your advice is your opinion only, so don't preach it as gospel. As I mentioned above, the oil is not going to spoil like an outdated carton of milk.
The 12 month oil change advice is sound, but it depends on how the vehicle is driven and more. My experience comes from buying many new vehicles and trucks, tractors and more over a period of 45 years.
 

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I would vote for changing it upon taking ownership. Too many unknowns, especially if the vehicle has been on a lot for 6+ months. Oil is the lifeblood of an engine, and I for one want to know exactly what is in my oil pan. And Kickboxer, what's the deal about gospel vs opinions? I didn't see anybody preaching anything as gospel. Obviously forums are for the most part, opinions with a few facts thrown in from time to time. Lighten up a bit!
 
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