Well that’s disappointing

mikeru said:

That's not something I've read or heard, and that's not in the video. I never experienced a flat 12v battery so I can't say for sure, but it wouldn't make sense to me that it would ever have the capability to use the etorque gen/motor to start the engine on a cold start (using the push button or key fob). Please provide your source for this information. I'd be very interested to know if this is true.

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mikeru said:

That's not something I've read or heard, and that's not in the video. I never experienced a flat 12v battery so I can't say for sure, but it wouldn't make sense to me that it would ever have the capability to use the etorque gen/motor to start the engine on a cold start (using the push button or key fob). Please provide your source for this information. I'd be very interested to know if this is true.

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KalboKalbs said:

Just stumbled on this. As I understand it, taken from the FSM. Likely this can be confirmed by Forum members with access to FCA FSM.

Bold below is mine for emphasis.

"48 Volt Wiring Component Index The 48 volt wiring is in line from the MGU to the PPU and to the PDC. The wiring has the 48 volt connection and the 12 volt connections. The PPU will convert the 48 volt power in and 12 volt power out to the 12 volt system main battery. In the event that the 12 volt system battery is discharged completely, the PPU will provide the voltage to allow the system to start. Once the vehicle is started, the system will charge up the 12 volt battery and allow for the battery to take a charge."

From a July 20, 2020 post on another forum. Hope I am not ******** up, by posting this. Certainly NOT promoting another forum, simply posting requested information.

https://**************/community/attachments/e-torque-from-fsm-pdf.62640/

System would not let me post PDF directly. (Or I am not smart enough to do so.)

EDIT. Appears I did scr*w up. Apologies to owners, system... Livin and learnin here.

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KalboKalbs said:

Just stumbled on this. As I understand it, taken from the FSM. Likely this can be confirmed by Forum members with access to FCA FSM.

Bold below is mine for emphasis.

"48 Volt Wiring Component Index The 48 volt wiring is in line from the MGU to the PPU and to the PDC. The wiring has the 48 volt connection and the 12 volt connections. The PPU will convert the 48 volt power in and 12 volt power out to the 12 volt system main battery. In the event that the 12 volt system battery is discharged completely, the PPU will provide the voltage to allow the system to start. Once the vehicle is started, the system will charge up the 12 volt battery and allow for the battery to take a charge."

From a July 20, 2020 post on another forum. Hope I am not ******** up, by posting this. Certainly NOT promoting another forum, simply posting requested information.

https://**************/community/attachments/e-torque-from-fsm-pdf.62640/

System would not let me post PDF directly. (Or I am not smart enough to do so.)

EDIT. Appears I did scr*w up. Apologies to owners, system... Livin and learnin here.

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mikeru said:

Thanks for digging this up! Seems like this is information that they should have shared with the public. Gives me a little bit more confidence in the system.

I was able to get your link to work by replacing the *'s with the name of the other forum, and pasting that into the search field. Thanks for posting that.

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mikeru said:

Thanks for digging this up! Seems like this is information that they should have shared with the public. Gives me a little bit more confidence in the system.

I was able to get your link to work by replacing the *'s with the name of the other forum, and pasting that into the search field. Thanks for posting that.

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turkeybird56 said:

Did not know what other forum he was in, lol. LOTS of great info in that PDF for E-Torque owners.

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Maryland_Man said:

Dodge RAM history trivia:

So what lead to the downfall of the iconic hood ornament?

It was a combination of factors that spelled the end of the car hood ornament. Tastes changed and cars with chrome accents and huge tailfins fell out of favor. There were also fears about how much they affected fuel economy. A smooth hood reduces drag, so goodbye hood ornaments. Those who remember the ’80s will also remember how popular hood ornaments were as a fashion statement. Rappers wore them like giant charms at the end of gold chains. The masses often followed suit by stealing them right off the hoods of cars.

Perhaps the biggest factor in the downfall of hood ornaments was safety. Europe led the charge with new pedestrian safety regulations. The idea was to keep that fancy bit of metal from seriously injuring a person during a collision. It might be the least of your worries if you’re hit by a car, but it was a start.

Rolls-Royce is also keeping its Spirit of Ecstasy with a creative workaround to meet safety standards. The winged lady retracts into the hood when a collision is detected and hides away when the doors are locked as a theft-prevention measure.

Come on, FCA design team

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Gregory McKinley said:

I have a 2019 5.7 with e-torque. Got 54000 on the odometer now. No major problems whatsoever with the e-torque system. People say how does it save fuel??? Obviously when the engine is not running, it is not using fuel! Does it save fuel? Maybe a little! To date the only issues I have had is a bad hood sensor/switch that set a SEL and e-torque stops working. Easy fix. Had underhood battery take **** on me. Had issues with radio/backup camera. TSB update fixed that. And when you change the oil filter, the oil cooler above filter leaked. Had a deer jump out in front of me a month ago. Got all parts but front grill. Grill is backordered by factory. Should be here next week. This is it guys. Pretty good I think so far. I pull a 28' Jayco Flight camper with no problems at all. LOVE my truck!!!!!!!! e-torque is not as bad as most think it is in my opinion.

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Freakydude said:

EPA protects your lungs and our environment, I don't think that is a bad thing is it? Maybe your kids want to breath an extra few years. most of what your against improves your vehicle so again why the complaint?
I think the main issue with E Torque is education. I learned what it is and what it does and to me its a great idea, An electric motor that gets you up to 10 or 20kmhr without using fuel which is where most of your heavy consumption is.
The start stop thing I don't like much either on my other cars but I use it because it is better for the environment.
We have to change or we are killing our grandchildren.

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mikeru said:

You're wanting then to bring back hood ornaments? I didn't like them in the 70's and 80's, and I don't like them now. Having said that, if I had a vintage car from that era, I'd want it to have the hood ornament if it originally came with one. But for modern vehicles, like wheel skirts and exterior sun visors, I say good riddance.

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MikeinSonoma said:

Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of people that will bet on a horse that they won’t be around to see it lose, it’s comforting to them to think it will win. There’s a lot we have to fix you have one side pushing to do nothing because it cost money and another group pushing to do everything, to heck with a cost, as usual moderation is almost always answer.
As they work on these ideas they will improve. The etorque? I don’t think we can even tell if it’s actually working. I’ve asked on multiple threads how can you tell that it’s actually adding torque at certain speeds and helping from a dead stop. I’ve even gotten something like, if the lights on it’s working. I wonder if you disconnected the battery if people would even notice, maybe their gas mileage would drop. I would at least feel better if ram put something on the dash that showed at that moment the motor was producing torque. My experience with the dealership is, they’re looking for excuses to not fix things.

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Freakydude said:

I learned what it is and what it does and to me its a great idea, An electric motor that gets you up to 10 or 20kmhr without using fuel which is where most of your heavy consumption is.

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