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Riccochet

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When I was shopping for a half ton, there was nothing but short beds out there cause (they said) long beds just don't move. That, and price, was a deal breaker for me. Guess it's reverse for the HDs.

They weren't wrong. Long beds don't sell. Which is why it's rare to see a new one sitting on a lot.
 
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Thank you everyone for your replies.. Weird that when i tried to check this thread after posting, it appeared to be deleted.. but happy its back.

I intend to use the truck like we used the van; Family road trips, sleeper camper, home depot runner, bike hauler, and maybe sidexside or jet ski towing.

I believe short bed is the only option for mega cab, which i like for long drive with kids. And double so for the reclining back seat.

I am a software engineer and not a civil engineer, so this truck is more for recreation than work.
All that is moot, as i went to the dealer today and the truck was sold last night.. I suspected someone on this forum saw the post and scooped it up, but what do i know.

I am on the wait list to order a 2023. Not doing diesel for the DPF, DEF, and maintenance hassle. Our sprinter was diesel and i dont know that id do that again.
 

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Thank you everyone for your replies.. Weird that when i tried to check this thread after posting, it appeared to be deleted.. but happy its back.

I intend to use the truck like we used the van; Family road trips, sleeper camper, home depot runner, bike hauler, and maybe sidexside or jet ski towing.

I believe short bed is the only option for mega cab, which i like for long drive with kids. And double so for the reclining back seat.

I am a software engineer and not a civil engineer, so this truck is more for recreation than work.
All that is moot, as i went to the dealer today and the truck was sold last night.. I suspected someone on this forum saw the post and scooped it up, but what do i know.

I am on the wait list to order a 2023. Not doing diesel for the DPF, DEF, and maintenance hassle. Our sprinter was diesel and i dont know that id do that again.
GL ordering and/or finding what works for you and your needs.
 

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I believe short bed is the only option for mega cab, which i like for long drive with kids. And double so for the reclining back seat.
It is at least for the current model. But ram’s short bed is a foot longer than ford’s 5.5’.
I am a software engineer and not a civil engineer, so this truck is more for recreation than work.
The only thing an engineer (civil or otherwise) hauls in his truck is bad news. And if he’s traveling to the site to deliver it, it’s really bad.
 

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I'll weigh in - it appears to be an uncommon configuration, undoubtedly why it's sitting. Which also means you got bargaining power - use it (if the config will work for your needs).

Most of us with 6.4 Hemi gassers go with 2500 - 3500 just adds another rear spring, I believe, but is for serious load haulers - ranchers, contractors, etc., and they all go diesel. A 3500 without much load will ride like a dump truck dead-heading. Keep that in mind. 6.4 Hemi hauls up to around 10k lbs fine, and with the 8 sp tranny, doesn't really matter much what rear axle gear is in it.

Also keep in mind you won't have good resale value either, unless you plan on running it until it's only good for scrap auction.
Ya can't park 'em anywhere...Only in the limo spots :hidesbehindsofa:

I always think of 4 door long beds as railroad crew trucks. That was the one application the railroads always bought them for.
 

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I have a bud with a mega cab. He loves it. Says there's extra leg room and better seats (or at least seating position) in the back plus extra dry storage without cutting into back seat room. I agree on avoiding the headache of all the extra diesel baggage if you don't need the towing capacity. That's high $$ upgrade (I assume) if all you want is the mega cab tho.
 
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thanks again. all of this has been very helpful.. I am looking forward to getting into ram and to know this forum. and will be watching for gasser orders to open.
 

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thanks again. all of this has been very helpful.. I am looking forward to getting into ram and to know this forum. and will be watching for gasser orders to open.
I love my MegaCab. 6.4 Hemi for camping and such if you are not hauling really heavy is great.
 
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I'll weigh in - it appears to be an uncommon configuration, undoubtedly why it's sitting. Which also means you got bargaining power - use it (if the config will work for your needs).

Most of us with 6.4 Hemi gassers go with 2500 - 3500 just adds another rear spring, I believe, but is for serious load haulers - ranchers, contractors, etc., and they all go diesel. A 3500 without much load will ride like a dump truck dead-heading. Keep that in mind. 6.4 Hemi hauls up to around 10k lbs fine, and with the 8 sp tranny, doesn't really matter much what rear axle gear is in it.

Also keep in mind you won't have good resale value either, unless you plan on running it until it's only good for scrap auction.


I always think of 4 door long beds as railroad crew trucks. That was the one application the railroads always bought them for.
6.4 is very capable of towing more than 10k. No problem. I know people that tow 13-14k all year with one. It's a great option for 5vers on those weight ranges.

But, you are right about the 8 speed. The rear gearing really has little influence. 3.73 and 4.10 are nearly identical in performance.
 

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I agree that waaay too much for that truck. My brother just bought a 22 f350 lariet diesel with the tremor package for that price. That thing is beautiful but rides like an unloaded dump truck.

I finally got a chance to see inside a mega cab and I have to say I was very disappointed that the seats weren’t farther back. What’s the point? Seems like my crew has the same leg room.

My 6.4 2500 is an absolute workhorse and pleasure to drive daily. I wouldn’t want a 3500 unless it constantly had 1k in bed, which is kind of the point. To OP if you’re going to get a gasser, go for a 2500. I got 3100lbs of payload and a much more forgiving ride.
 
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I agree that waaay too much for that truck. My brother just bought a 22 f350 lariet diesel with the tremor package for that price. That thing is beautiful but rides like an unloaded dump truck.

I finally got a chance to see inside a mega cab and I have to say I was very disappointed that the seats weren’t farther back. What’s the point? Seems like my crew has the same leg room.

My 6.4 2500 is an absolute workhorse and pleasure to drive daily. I wouldn’t want a 3500 unless it constantly had 1k in bed, which is kind of the point. To OP if you’re going to get a gasser, go for a 2500. I got 3100lbs of payload and a much more forgiving ride.

I had planned on the 3500 as I expect to have a sleeper camper on the truck most weekends through spring, summer, fall.. Say 2500# or so. My understanding is that the main difference in the 2500 and 3500 is the suspension and that the 3500 is more firm for this type of use..

Admittedly I know very little about trucks coming from Sprinter Van land.
 

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6.4 is very capable of towing more than 10k. No problem. I know people that tow 13-14k all year with one. It's a great option for 5vers on those weight ranges.

But, you are right about the 8 speed. The rear gearing really has little influence. 3.73 and 4.10 are nearly identical in performance.

I know people that say the 6.4 struggles mightly above 10k pounds. I don't know - I tow 7k pounds.
 

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I am on the wait list to order a 2023. Not doing diesel for the DPF, DEF, and maintenance hassle. Our sprinter was diesel and i dont know that id do that again.
I followed a similar path, after owning a diesel 4wd Sprinter for five years, thinking I would build it into a camper. I mostly used it for my construction business.

After doing some rough trails in Death Valley we decided to go back to the truck camper system. I ordered a 3500 6.4 crew cab with 4.10 gears in 2021. It handles our FWC Hawk nicely although I added airbags, and Thuren springs to fit my 37" tires.

We're not going to tow any big trailer, so gas was the right choice for us. Looking at the price of diesel at the pump, and the $9k additional at the dealer are both $$$ compared to my $50k Tradesman.
 

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Since it has been brought up, here's a thread that pertains.
 

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I had planned on the 3500 as I expect to have a sleeper camper on the truck most weekends through spring, summer, fall.. Say 2500# or so. My understanding is that the main difference in the 2500 and 3500 is the suspension and that the 3500 is more firm for this type of use..

Admittedly I know very little about trucks coming from Sprinter Van land.
That’s a pretty good reason for a 3500, you’ll be wanting all the payload you can get if you’re going for a loaded out truck.
 

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There's plenty of 2500 and 3500 HD Rams with the 6.4 Hemi pulling heavy RV's and other trailers. Also a 3500 single rear wheel Truck has a higher GVW and towing rating because of less weight than the same 3500 duly has. As far as the Cummins it's a great engine but I will not pay the extra 10-k for just a motor. You can sure have a lot of nice extras on your truck for the 10-k. The only reason I would ever order the Cummins is if I were pulling heavy tractors as in construction or Farming and if I was an over the road hotshot heavy hauler putting 150-k or more per year on the truck. To pull a travel trailer or fifth wheel for recreation purposes I would grab the truck without worry. Just to let you know I've been rv ing since 1980 and have had large fifth wheels and travel trailers with gas trucks and Cummins diesel and echo diesel and back to gas. Diesel trucks are too expensive up front to buy and the upkeep is expensive along with diesel fuel too high. The average person does not need a diesel unless they just want to pretend to be a Big Truck Driver.
 

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I have a 2021 Tradesman crew cab with the 6.4 hemi. I bought it to tow a 28’ rv trailer with a base weight of 6850lbs. That truck and motor don’t even know the trailer is behind it. If the digital gauges you can put up in the info center between the speedo and tach are any good, the temps for oil and trans don’t move more than 5 deg. up from running no trailer. The only fun part is trying to find a gas station that’s got enough maneuvering room for truck and trailer.
 
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