How To: Install a 2018 4C (UAQ/UAS) Radio in 2013 - 2017 RAM

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hey guy's i'm looking for some answer , i have an aftermarket back up camera that is working fine with my previous radio RA2, than i switch to a VP4 , but now i have a 4c and when i put in reverse ( truck is manual ) the screen don't switch, i have to manually press the backup camera icon to show in the screen , but when it showed up the camera view it is write backup cam unavailable ? , i try all kind of activation thru bcm / radio , i have some code pop up , that said lost communication with camera , but like i said , when i press the backup icon , it is showing the view ? anyone experience this issue ? i just try to figure out , why it is not activating when reverse
I believe @ManualCummins & @Roman217 have determined that there's a difference in the manual trans g56 trucks with the way the BuCam message is generated on the communication bus (ecu vs BCM I believe?) and the 4c radios not able to read that original message?

Don't quote me on that ... I may have it backwards.
 

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thnx man , i'm gonna wait till they showed up to see if they done something to get the Bu cam work
 

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I'll have to look up the name of the module but I'm running a module behind the radio with a manual trigger off of the reverse light circuit this is the only solution that works reliably
 

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I'll have to look up the name of the module but I'm running a module behind the radio with a manual trigger off of the reverse light circuit this is the only solution that works reliably
Doesn't that have to be custom programmed to interface/send the correct Can messages
 

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If it can be found anymore at a reasonable price this right here is straight just plug it in and you can program it via their software no custom programming and all you have to do is set input one to a positive trigger then run the trigger wire out to the fuse box for the reverse lights
They may be difficult to come by at this point but I only paid about $125 for it when I bought it

Everything works perfect it allows up to four cameras the only downside is you can't use your camera delay
 

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Added the info to POST 7 for others with g56/Manual trans as future reference. Thanks !
 

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If it can be found anymore at a reasonable price this right here is straight just plug it in and you can program it via their software no custom programming and all you have to do is set input one to a positive trigger then run the trigger wire out to the fuse box for the reverse lights
They may be difficult to come by at this point but I only paid about $125 for it when I bought it

Everything works perfect it allows up to four cameras the only downside is you can't use your camera delay
do you have the oem camera or aftermarket ? mine is aftermarket so dunno if the box will activate it , mine is wire thru the signal 31-32 pin , it should work imo ?
 

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I just did the Seat Module & UAQ Upgrade in my 2016 Tradesman. A huge shout out to

Mp grimm2 for the fantastic harness's he made and the help I was given. I couldn't have done this without his help. I originally had the grey cloth manual seats, now have 2013 leather, power heat and cooled front and rear heated seats. I had the heated seat module pn 68058083AL and i was told to replace it with PN 68217268AF if i wanted the touch screen controls to show up. It took about 30hrs for the truck to communicate with the new module and another couple after that before the controls actually showed up but they finally did and work great. I followed the instructions in this thread and @Roman217 ’s Post #2,697

How To: Install a 2018 4C (UAQ/UAS) Radio EDIT: UPGRADED HSM module 68217268AF for UAx
Thanks Guys!

Just wanted to relate my experience in upgrading to the newer seat module 68217268AF. It did not make the soft keys function in my truck a 2014 1500 Limited. I used AlfaOBD to Disable the "Cabin Net - HSM Heated Seat Module Initialize" after the module was installed for a few days and the soft keys did not work. I let the truck sit over night and then Enabled the "Cabin Net - HSM Heated Seat Module Initialize". I can connect to the module with Alfa and it shows the correct part number so it the truck knows it has the newer module. I've been living without the soft keys for over 3 years so it's not a big deal, but I did waste around $75 on the newer module.
 

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Hi everyone. Trying to find a conversion harness for the media hub. Putting a 2018 uconnect in a 2013. I can’t seem to to find just the harness. Any help would be awesome.
 

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good day

Mpgrimm2 My names Erik I am hoping to convert my 2017 ram radio for a 2018 radio with carplay with the navigation . To be honest I donot know anything about this electrical stuff that I need to get but I am trying to find someone with the know how to order the things that I need and I would just gladly pay for it !! Thanks in advance !!!​

 

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good day

Mpgrimm2 My names Erik I am hoping to convert my 2017 ram radio for a 2018 radio with carplay with the navigation . To be honest I donot know anything about this electrical stuff that I need to get but I am trying to find someone with the know how to order the things that I need and I would just gladly pay for it !! Thanks in advance !!!​

I'll send you a private message to get things started
 

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I owe @chrisbh17 and @Roman217 a HUGE thanks. As well as everyone else that offered up some advice on this. Chris and Roman worked up a module for me and send it out about a week ago. After some minor trouble shooting everything is good. It all works just as it should.

What exactly was the fix, what module is this? I installed a UAQ in my 16 a couple months ago and thought everything was working but it starting getting cold in the mornings and I just realized my heated seat/steering wheel are grayed out. Been searching this thread but so far no solid fix for a 2016 that I have seen. @chrisbh17 @Roman217


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Will I lose my uconnect subscription on my 2013 if I upgrade?
 

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Added some Panasonic 4c screen delamination notes/info to post 7
 

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Does anyone have the 8 pin male connector part number? I'm trying to do a project with a second media hub and I'd hate to buy a second harness just to waste it all for the connector.
Edit: disregard, i found the connector. will post pictures of my project when i get the parts and everything.
 
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What exactly was the fix, what module is this? I installed a UAQ in my 16 a couple months ago and thought everything was working but it starting getting cold in the mornings and I just realized my heated seat/steering wheel are grayed out. Been searching this thread but so far no solid fix for a 2016 that I have seen.


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Just wanted to update and add a little information in case someone else runs across this issue of the heated seats not working on a 2016 (and I assume 17) 2500/3500 diesel.

While trying to find a solution, since everything I have read says it should work on a 2016 I recalled that there was an issue that tuners were having with the 2018 trucks losing their heated seats after getting tuned (diesels). The issue turned out to be they were using an older base file for the tunes which was fine for everything up to a 17 but caused issues with the seats on the 18's.

My truck is tuned and the tune I have been using has been around for a while so I thought I would try and load a newer tune just to see what happens. Sure enough the newer tune was based on a updated base file and my heated seats came back. Unfortunately I cannot run the older tune which was one of my favorites if I want to keep the heated seats and the UAQ. knowing that I am assuming the older tune base file may have been a pre 15' file and that's what caused my problems?

So if you are having issues with the heated seats on a 16-17 (maybe other years?) diesel and you are tuned try a newer tune if you can and see if that works.

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do you have the oem camera or aftermarket ? mine is aftermarket so dunno if the box will activate it , mine is wire thru the signal 31-32 pin , it should work imo ?
It would work either way if you go aftermarket it'll just have to unplug the RCA connector that jumps the main connector
 

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I have a 2016 Dodge Ram 8.4, Can I put a 2020 Classic 8.4 in it? I know if it were to work I need a new media input but will the radio work in general?
 

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I have a 2016 Dodge Ram 8.4, Can I put a 2020 Classic 8.4 in it? I know if it were to work I need a new media input but will the radio work in general?
Do you already have Dual Zone ATC climate?
 
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