LED's in OE Premium Projectors- what works?

corneileous · Oct 9, 2022

I'm sure this has probably been asked before and being that I'm really not interested in HID's due to all the ballasts and stuff like that you have to run outside the housings, what is a good LED bulb for the factory 4th Gen projectors that will work as good or almost as good as HID's being that Ive read it quite a bit that HID's are the way to go? Another reason why I'm not interested in HID's is because of the warm up time they require. I wasn't crazy about that the last time I had HID's.

I found these as possibilities from AuxBeam which are either the F16 Plus-9005 or the X60-9005 and I found these also from AuxBeam but at 25,000 lumen that seems a little bright. Thoughts? I guess those 25,000 lumen ones would be good for high beams in the open reflectors but being that my auto high beam sensor is pretty sensitive, those might even be a little too bright for that as well being that the last LED high beams I had would cause the brights to constantly go on and off from the reflections from pretty much any roadside sign or any type of delineator post.

Thanks in advance.

512RAM · Oct 9, 2022

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Shine006 · Oct 9, 2022

I have Lasfit in mine. they work perfectly. https://www.lasfit.com/products/202...yr_2022~zq_not-classic&variant=42701461717239

Cableman · Oct 9, 2022

I run these https://brisource.com/products/lumibright-xt1-gen2-led-headlight-bulbs?variant=36412220113046
Have been great and no issues, i did a comparison with these and 45w hid ballasts/bulbs.
Ddm tuning has another led out which supposedly outperforms all of them.
Check bulbfacts.com

BulbFacts | Best Recommended LED Headlight Kits

Bulb Facts, Lab testing on automotive headlight & foglight bulbs, comparison chart before you buy.

www.bulbfacts.com

corneileous · Oct 9, 2022

Shine006 said:
I have Lasfit in mine. they work perfectly. https://www.lasfit.com/products/202...yr_2022~zq_not-classic&variant=42701461717239

Do you have projectors? I see that you have the new 5th Gen body style so I wonder how these bulbs would work in the older 4th Gen projector headlights. The highbeams anyways are the same 9005 bulb which is also what my lowbeams are and not that H11.

corneileous · Oct 9, 2022

Cableman said:
I run these https://brisource.com/products/lumibright-xt1-gen2-led-headlight-bulbs?variant=36412220113046
Have been great and no issues, i did a comparison with these and 45w hid ballasts/bulbs.
Ddm tuning has another led out which supposedly outperforms all of them.
Check bulbfacts.com

BulbFacts | Best Recommended LED Headlight Kits

Bulb Facts, Lab testing on automotive headlight & foglight bulbs, comparison chart before you buy.

www.bulbfacts.com

How long have you had those from brisource? And did you get them with the decoders? I’m assuming if we have Alfa OBD, we don’t need the decoders, correct?

corneileous · Oct 9, 2022

Well I guess according to that link to bulbfacts.com that @Cableman posted about some bulbs being better than others for reflectors also, what's a good bulb for the high beam reflectors in those premium headlights or does it matter?

Cableman · Oct 10, 2022

corneileous said:
How long have you had those from brisource? And did you get them with the decoders? I’m assuming if we have Alfa OBD, we don’t need the decoders, correct?

Correct i did not use decoders as i have alfa obd and set my lights to hid.

Hemi395 · Oct 10, 2022

Whatever you do for LEDs in your projectors the correct placement of the LED chips is more important than the brightness. The LED chips need to be in the EXACT same spot as the halogen bulbs filament or you will get a terrible beam pattern. Headlight Revolution has done extensive testing on which bulbs work and don't work well in our trucks. Of course they are trying to sell their products but the info is valid.

I have the factory reflector housing with Diode Dynamics SL1 and the beam pattern is perfect. On the SL1 package it says "For reflector and projector housings" but I have no first hand experience with how they work with the projector housings.

corneileous · Oct 10, 2022

Cableman said:
Correct i did not use decoders as i have alfa obd and set my lights to hid.

You changed it to HID for those LED’s? I figured we’d need to use the LED setting on Alpha OBD but then again, I have no idea what changing the headlights setting to HID or LED even does other than somehow making it so that the LEDs won’t flicker and they won’t cause the “bulb out” message to appear on the display.

PaleFlyer · Oct 10, 2022

I'm running these in my 2018 OE projector headlights. I'll be 100% honest with you. I don't LOVE them, but they are 100% in the OE projector. No external booster.

I know at least part of my issue is I'm dumb, and tried to "time" the LED. IE I rotated the post. DON'T DO THAT! I also may just be expecting too much from them. As in I know LED's for some reason are not the best for long throw. So they work, and are a huge improvement over the 5 year old halogen bulbs.

Also, the Projectors use the same bulb for both High and Low. (separate but the same P#. I didn't see that anywhere but my manual, including on Dodge's own websites.)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XHD4HV3

Edit: forgot to mention, I have (almost) fully LED converted the truck, no bulb out, and no programming. (yet) The missing bulb is the engine bay lamp I added, but takes some stupid style bulb.

CheechDogg.0n37s · Oct 10, 2022

The lasfit 9005s are good for the projectors, that is what I have in the OEM projectors that I just bought and installed on my truck .... the cutoff is pretty good and overall the output is way better than the reflectors ... check the lasfit 9005s out, they are error free, canbus friendly

BossHogg · Oct 11, 2022

corneileous said:
I'm sure this has probably been asked before and being that I'm really not interested in HID's due to all the ballasts and stuff like that you have to run outside the housings, what is a good LED bulb for the factory 4th Gen projectors that will work as good or almost as good as HID's being that Ive read it quite a bit that HID's are the way to go? Another reason why I'm not interested in HID's is because of the warm up time they require.

HID is the reasonable way to go. LEDs, if not specifically designed for the projector lens isn't going to do well. As mentioned, the LED placement has to be in the same position as the halogen filament.

Take another looks at HIDs. A reasonable quality kit these days offers an instant start (no warm-up time) or time to full output of less than 10 seconds. I've placed my ballast inside the projector headlamp bucket, just look for the right kit, small instant on ballasts.

Cableman · Oct 11, 2022

corneileous said:
You changed it to HID for those LED’s? I figured we’d need to use the LED setting on Alpha OBD but then again, I have no idea what changing the headlights setting to HID or LED even does other than somehow making it so that the LEDs won’t flicker and they won’t cause the “bulb out” message to appear on the display.

When i had hids i set it to led and they flickered, then i found the hid head lamp setting and changed it to that, no more flickering, never changed it back to leds and they work perfectly.

My review of these leds vs 45w hids below

Projector housing LED bulb replacements FOUND

Well i ordered a set! so ill post back or start a thread on my review with factory projectors. 1st thing will be to see if both of mine project the same otherwise ill have to stick stock bulbs in them and off to the dealer. Havnt run hids for even a year and only put 4800k on last year.

www.ramforum.com

hunterdan · Oct 11, 2022

I'd suggest watching some of the videos on this channel and reading his update spreadsheet with current results.

https://youtube.com/c/CarLightReviews

headlightspecs.xlsx - Google Drive

docs.google.com

Shine006 · Oct 11, 2022

corneileous said:
Do you have projectors? I see that you have the new 5th Gen body style so I wonder how these bulbs would work in the older 4th Gen projector headlights. The highbeams anyways are the same 9005 bulb which is also what my lowbeams are and not that H11.

yes I do have projectors.

Narg · Oct 14, 2022

I chased this snake oil scheme once. Never got better headlights with LEDs over OEM halogen. It's more all to the design of the headlight housing and beam formation, not the bulb.

ADWarlock20 · Oct 30, 2022

I was running auxito LEDs as my high and low beams for almost 2 years without issue. Incredibly bright and had what seemed like a beam pattern similar to the OEM halogens (after rotating the posts on the bulbs). Had to take them out after experiencing a few issues with one of the low beam bulbs randomly shutting off for up to 15 seconds at a time. When I was in the process of removing the low beam bulbs with plans on keeping them for high beams, the adjustment screw fell out of one of the high beam bulbs somewhere, leaving me two halves of bulb that fell out of the housing.

danielmid · Oct 30, 2022

After 4 years with a DDM Tuning canbus kit in my projector low beam, I was getting intermittent no light on one side, so I did the reasonable thing and replaced everything with a Morimoto full 35W kit. I already had the Morimoto relay kit so it was plug and play. While I had it apart I swapped in DDM Tuning SaberLEDs in to the high beams.

Next step at some point will likely be full headlight led swap, but I read bad things about all the aftermarket brands so who knows.

hunterdan · Oct 31, 2022

Narg said:
I chased this snake oil scheme once. Never got better headlights with LEDs over OEM halogen. It's more all to the design of the headlight housing and beam formation, not the bulb.

I've watched reviews on several led bulbs all performed in the same manor, through the same housings (reflector and projector) that will prove that narrative false. As such, there can be tradeoffs and some bulbs are much better than others. However, the vast majority of decent led bulbs do provide an upgrade over a standard halogen bulb, and it is measurable and quantifiable.

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