Ordered 35's , now second guessing myself

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I went with 35s and glad I did. If I was running Moab maybe 37s but mountain use 35s are more practical for me.
 

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About a week ago I pulled the trigger on some Nitto Exo Grapplers, 35x12.5x17 as a treat to myself for my 2020 PW. I have been wanting to go up to 35s since I bought it, and I just decided to say to heck with it and ordered them before I changed my mind again (usually the $$ bring me back down to reality). I have a Tazer that is en route already to recal the speedo etc. There's still 10/32nds left on my Duras in OEM size, so I am not in a panic to get it all installed. The EXOs weigh in at 74lbs each instead of the 54lbs for the OEM sized Duras as well as the expected diameter and width increase so I am expecting a slight drop in whatever dismal fuel economy I already get :rolleyes:

Today I loaded my SxS in my 22' car hauler and went for a 2 hour cruise to go do some playing in the snow, and I really paid attention to the times the PW had to work a bit to get that trailer moving and keep it moving. Not great roads for sure, but it got me thinking- did I make a huge mistake moving from the 33's to a 35? I tow quite a bit- the camper, the cargo trailer, etc. Sometimes loaded to 10K on the trailers (not this particular time). All of this crossed my mind, but for whatever reason it really started to bug me today.

I guess I really didn't take that into consideration as much as I should have given the 4.10 ratio and the 8 speed.

I've poured over thread after thread and I am getting a really mixed bag of results. Guess I am looking for some reassurance that I didn't just cripple myself for work tasks with this move. Do you 2019+ owners still work the wagon with 35s?
I'd avoid the Exo Grapplers. Very stout precision tire but it is heavy and loud from 55 on up.
 

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If you bought a pw you probably didn’t think about mpg I know I didn’t that was then now I have a little pos that I drive to work when the roads are good

I thought about it a ton about it because 31 gallon tank. Range matters. Spent this week in Mojave. Not a gas station on every corner... and not a lot of corners.
 

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I want to go back to stock size highway tires, the loss of pulling power when towing, the drop in fuel economy (I’m a working slub) and the road noise. All combined stock tires were actually what I need on my truck. You do what you want, but I noticed a 30% loss of fuel economy going to 35”. When you only get 300 miles out of a 34 gallon tank, you think to yourself is it really worth it to look cool?
 

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Ran 33’s and 35’s on both my PW’s, one with the 5.7 and 4.56 and one with the 6.4 and 4.10’s. Factory 33’s and switched to Mickey Thompson MTZ’s 35’s. Pull a 28’ enclosed car hauler. Wish I had the Cummins? Sure. But the way I use my truck the hemi meets the need. The 5.7 pulled better with the 4.56’s. I’ll change my 4.10’ to 4.30 or 4.56’s before I’d go back to 33’s.

How heavy of a load with the 5.7? I snapped both rear leaf springs and didn’t notice. BTY the AAM leaf springs are a special size and material, $1500 for a set. Regular 3/4 ton leaf springs at the were $500 a set.
 

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My truck came from the factory with 35x12.5-R20 General Grabbers. Just replaced them with same size Kenda Klever RTs. Runs so much smoother and quieter plus can’t complain about the 19/32 tread depth and that they are pre pinned for studs. I thought about getting 37’s but stayed with the 35’s so I can take full advantage of the 14”s of suspension travel without any rubbing.E85EF767-EDEF-414E-8008-516C75CEDB2B.jpeg
 

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I'd avoid the Exo Grapplers. Very stout precision tire but it is heavy and loud from 55 on up.
Loud I can deal with- that doesn't bug me too much since I am as deaf as a stone anyways. I was looking for a tire that is stout as hell. The roads I drive daily might as well be gravel- they are so torn up. They look like the surface of the moon. If the Duratracs would hold up more than a year, I'd keep running them but they are usually in tattters within a year, and they are spendy around here- I do love them though. I haven't found an A/T that even comes close to competing with them in the snow and ice. I initially wanted the Toyo Opencountry C/Ts. One local wrench twister here can get them, but he and I are not on speaking terms any longer. The other one a short trip down the road can't sell Toyo because he sells Nitto and said all of the guys that have put these on rave about them on gravel and out in the fields and pastures. They seem to be the same type of tire as the C/Ts however they are 3lbs lighter than the C/Ts.
I want to go back to stock size highway tires, the loss of pulling power when towing, the drop in fuel economy (I’m a working slub) and the road noise. All combined stock tires were actually what I need on my truck. You do what you want, but I noticed a 30% loss of fuel economy going to 35”. When you only get 300 miles out of a 34 gallon tank, you think to yourself is it really worth it to look cool?
The short answer- Yes. There is more to it though. I am constantly on the hunt for a tire that will be tough as nails, with good all weather performance, I can use to go offroad to my fishing holes and hunting, AND 3PMSF rated. I so far have yet to find this holy grail. I also wanted to see if a jump in size would (besides looking better) offer a bit more flotation compared to the stock size. This is a test for now, and I have been given mixed reviews on that. In a freshly tilled or seeded field, the OEM size sinks more than I like. Quickly. While it's not mud so I was never stuck, it is a pain the backside leaving those ruts and the compaction can be an issue. If a larger size would float better, then that's a win. The number of posts on here seem to point to a loss in fuel economy (which I expected) which may be minimal, or maybe it's huge? Wildly all over the place. Towing power, again- maybe a non-issue going to a 35" tire. That all said, you would likely see more of a hit in your 1500 (if I am reading your profile correctly) as an overall percentage with large M/Ts vs the stock highway tires than I would in a 2500 that already gets dismal fuel economy, had aggressive stock A/T tires to begin with, weighs substantially more and has the aerodynamic profile of a barn door.

Then again, maybe everything I put here was wrong? Guess we're about to find out. I am going to keep the OEMs for a bit in case I find this ended up being a huge mistake. Guess it will just cost me a bit of cash :Big Laugh:
 
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I thought about it a ton about it because 31 gallon tank. Range matters. Spent this week in Mojave. Not a gas station on every corner... and not a lot of corners.
I sure think about it too, but it is what it is. It sucks, and likely will continue to suck- and get worse- so I may as well enjoy it.
 

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I sure think about it too, but it is what it is. It sucks, and likely will continue to suck- and get worse- so I may as well enjoy it.
Agreed. Ultimately I decided jerry cans and accepting the prices at last chance gas stations were worth it to have the PW. Still wish a 40 gallon+ tank was an option, though. 700 mile range for the Ford was very very tempting.
 

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Been through this with my ‘19. Definitely you will have some reduced acceleration and on hills it’ll be less inclined to hold 8th gear.

If towing performance was a big factor for me I’d stay stock.

In the dirt and visually I prefer the 35’s.
 
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Yeah, I spend a lot of time in the dirt. I am just hoping the damn things don't rub anywhere. Some say 35s are no issue, others say they will. Not sure how my OCD will react to that one because I am not about to change wheels
 

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They clear with ease. They will just barely kiss the radius arm bolts. Not even noticeable.
 
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Installed today, no rub at full lock at all. Used the Tazer (still need to fine tune it a wee bit as it's about 1km/hr off) but over all really happy. If I believe the lie-o-meter my mileage didn't change much on the highway if at all. The weight of them sure makes itself evident getting up to speed, so I bet city driving is going to be a killer, but happy with the choice!
 
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Excuse her, she's a mess from the drive home, but Fat Betty got new slippers! Fills it out much nicer.

I found the setting on the Tazer to be pretty arbitrary. Tape measure said 33.75", but had to set the Tazer at 34.5" to get the speedometer correct. Not a big deal, just some tinkering and extra seat time which I'll never argue with!
 

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Excuse her, she's a mess from the drive home, but Fat Betty got new slippers! Fills it out much nicer.

I found the setting on the Tazer to be pretty arbitrary. Tape measure said 33.75", but had to set the Tazer at 34.5" to get the speedometer correct. Not a big deal, just some tinkering and extra seat time which I'll never argue with!
Haaaaa, yea i remember setting my tazer up for 35’s. Cant remember the exact number i ended up on for perfect speed, but it was fun tinkering with it.

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35`s are a good choice, you would have noticed a much bigger change with 37`s vs 35`s, as I did!
As previously mentioned, the more aggressive the tread and the heavier the load the faster the tire wear!
A Pedal Commander cured the slow roll off to the point I hardly notice the 37`s off the line or when towing our 7600lb travel tailer..
 
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