Oil Filter Thread

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Edit - wrong oil thread! Oops!
 
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Here we go again, sigh. Look at the color of the media, so the color the media the same color as paper? So it's a blend? Like wtf, just another reason to use RP filters, there is no ambiguity, they don't play with words like blend, they don't use paper colored media, all white you know it's synthetic. Is fram ultra? Who knows? More long intervals with fram ultra cut open are needed.

Designed for use with synthetic oils.

Dual layered synthetic blend media provides 99%+ filtration efficiency.*

Durable metal tube offers outstanding pressure resistance and flow spacing.
 

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Why would a cut open reveal anything meaningful beyond the efficiency and capacity tests we've seen?
Not getting how looks mean much compared to actual, functional tests.
 
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Well they test new filters only, where blended filters match synthetic, proved by the m1 results in gm test. Nobody sends a used filter at the end of a interval to get tested? As far as looks, the old expression if it looks like a duck then it is a paper filter, or something like that. All we can do it cut it open for pliability at the end of an interval. Doesnt really matter to me, I'm set for life and glad I am, but just for the forum who still ask this question daily, if not RP then what? Well when the xg2 looks like that to me it just isnt settled. So I have only seen the xg2 is an off color, here is where the fun starts, below is a fram ultra oil filter, but wait it isnt paper looking? White synthetic spun glass, but those videos and others are new, but they don't show this media in the xg2. So I would love it to be settled, but it isnt settled yet imo til I know all xg2's are synthetic.

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I know its not the same oil filter that's used in hemi's but for what it's worth I've been using the fram xg9018 on my pontiac and it's looked the same for at least the past few years. Maybe longer as I've never really paid attention to it. Just know its always been the same color and material type.Screenshot_20221123_184156.jpg
 

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Hard to believe an OEM would use different materials across same filter series.
Then again, Fram has been bought and sold a number of times. The particle test we did see showed significantly less media capacity in the RP. That concerned me, but we have no way to field test adequate capacity.
 

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I know the Fram Ultra for our Jeep (3.6 Pentastar) is white and does not look like paper to me (same style as Burla and White six four posted above).

Other than being dirty it looks great when I take it out too.

I just got rid of an XG2 when I did my oil change a few weeks ago. I guess I should have cut it open.
 

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anyone have a new ultra on a year interval wanna commit to cutting it open?

I did a year on my xg10060 and posted the cut open in this thread. doing a year on my current xg2 will post in this thread
did over a year on my old 06 hemi xg16 but sold it with the filter on. always changing the oil many times within that year of course
 

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Question, are these 3 RP filters (10-48, 20-500, 20-820) the only ones that will work on the 5.7 hemi if physical space isn't an issue? I have a newly purchased pacbrake oil relocation filter and once that's installed I'll have plenty of clearance.
 
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Question, are these 3 RP filters (10-48, 20-500, 20-820) the only ones that will work on the 5.7 hemi if physical space isn't an issue? I have a newly purchased pacbrake oil relocation filter and once that's installed I'll have plenty of clearance.
In theory, if you can thread it and the psi on the bypass is similar, it should work.

I think it would be a great thing to try even on rams w/o bypass. Guys who dont mind tossing away a couple bucks to see.
 

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I have a 2022 dt 4x4 and recently bought the rp 10-48 and the 20-500.
The 10-48 fit fine but the 20-500 was a bit too tall and hit the steering case.
I also bought the fram xg-2, 10575, and the 10060 to test and the xg-2 I really had to work to get it in, kinda mash a wire loom and it sits very close to transmission lines almost touching. The xg 10060 was no problem, and the 10575 is taller than the 10060 and it also fit, I kept the 10575 on it.
 
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If I had a ram that didnt fir the older filter, I think I'd have to run a relocation, and while I was at it go to a double set up. With filter tech being what it is, extend those intervals if you have a double filter on it.
 

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psi on the bypass is only for the pressure strength of filtration media, not the oil pump.
My view is the higher the better. Goes into bypass less time.
 
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Fine line as we see filters that are vacuumed sucked to death. Most of them are paper, when the paper goes stiff you are in bypass all the time.
 

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Fine line as we see filters that are vacuumed sucked to death. Most of them are paper, when the paper goes stiff you are in bypass all the time.

Yes, one would hope designers know what they're doing, but not so much the past 20 years or so.
Example 1: Hemi lifter oiling.
 
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