Do not buy Carli tuned king coilovers

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gents, sorry about not getting any replies out there.
I did reach out to Carli several times. I couldn't ever get them to tell me if the spring they provided was correct. you can see in the picture it is the 700 spring. that seems more diesel to me but I couldn't get them to tell me any answer on that. there best answer was to drop my tire pressure in the front to 35 and the rear to 30. well doing that would have made my bilstiens feel like they were clouds.
it really was allot back and forth with Carli over email and phone but haven't gotten any improvement.
it feels like it is up on its tippy toes on the from end. like its too lifted for what it should be. I complained about the front being more than 1 1/2" higher than the rear. I don't like that look at all. the back end feel significantly better than the front. when I pull to a stop the vehicle kind of rocks back and forth as the weight transfers front to rear and back to the front.
If I go over any speed bump I better take it very vey slow or it sounds like thngs are going fall off the truck. the truck just isn't compliant as it travel over broken roads.
going with Carli everything is supposed to good right out of the boxes. the preload gave me too much front lift and I think the spring was was too heavy rated. should have probably have been a 500 not a 700. that was the first question I asked and never got an answer.

I live in Fallbrook CA and would actually love anyone who know how these things are suppose to feel can see if I am all full of Shhh or what. it's ruined the ride I had before I put the Carli kings on my truck.i
I'm not far from moving towards sometime taking all of the latest carli/king stuff on my truck and put it on there's. my truck rode much much better before I wasted all of this money on this system. which I still think is the wrong system. I see other forum members say they were happy with the 500 lb spring. if that is the case then why did I get the 700 spring.
I didn't think Carli was offering the 700lbs springs Not even in the diesel application. I'll put 700lbs on a heavy 1500 that means you'll have a heavy bumper, winch, roof rack, RTT etc etc etc. I wanted to put 600lbs in mine but 550 will do better in my case. They put 600lbs in the 5th gen application. Also, check my build thread. I have pictures with what you need to do to turn those adjusters. For instance check Post #143 here

4 full turns should be about 1" up or down. so at the most you'll be able to go down almost 1" from where you are if you turn them counter clockiwse. definetely you have too heavy springs in there for your application. King OE comes with 500lbs, you have 13" long 700lbs, Mine came with 14" long, 500lbs springs.

Ask Carli to see if they'll exchange springs, or simply call King and buy 14/500lbs springs. Not CJC, contact Carli. I think somebody at CJC was playing with those coilovers before you ?

Have fun.

Hope it helps.
 
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Ask Carli to see if they'll exchange springs, or simply call King and buy 14/500lbs springs. Not CJC, contact Carli. I think somebody at CJC was playing with those coilovers before you ?
thanks for the posting. I'll check out your build. I really want to drop the front end down a bit. I just can't get to the Allen bolt on the passenger side. it is turned a little too far inboard. I might have to take them out to adjust it.
I did send Carli, not CJC, an email yesterday and hope to get a response tomorrow. The springs are what I really think are wrong. I don't want to spend more money on this set up but I probably will since I love my truck.

thanks again.
 
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I called Carli. They said the spring rate (700 lb) is correct.
I am going to take the truck to a different shop and have the nitrogen pressure checked.
The front should not be 1 1/4" higher than the rear, especially since I have the rear springs installed as well.
Hopefully this other shop can find something that the first missed. They can't get me in until after the new year though.
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I’d be shocked if Carli rode poorly. That’s not normal.
You would be shocked then. The ride is not good. The front end feels like it is jammed in the highest position it could be in. Not that that is a thing. It's just how it feels. Pretty much no small or medium bump compliance. I don't even want to try to hit a bigger bump because it feels like it would damage my truck. I already have a bunch of new rattles since installing this set-up. If you were local you could give it a shot and see exactly what I am talking about. I'm no "Karen", this particular case must be special.
 

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I called Carli. They said the spring rate (700 lb) is correct.
I am going to take the truck to a different shop and have the nitrogen pressure checked.
The front should not be 1 1/4" higher than the rear, especially since I have the rear springs installed as well.
Hopefully this other shop can find something that the first missed. They can't get me in until after the new year though.
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You would be shocked then. The ride is not good. The front end feels like it is jammed in the highest position it could be in. Not that that is a thing. It's just how it feels. Pretty much no small or medium bump compliance. I don't even want to try to hit a bigger bump because it feels like it would damage my truck. I already have a bunch of new rattles since installing this set-up. If you were local you could give it a shot and see exactly what I am talking about. I'm no "Karen", this particular case must be special.

I don't think your out of your element at all. After seeing the setup and what it's doing the front just needs to be lowered that inch and a half.

Then since your stuck with 700lbs springs throw winch on it. That will get those springs moving.
 

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I just ordered my fox 2.5 from accutune. I’ll see what springs come on them. I told them I have a bumper and winch, rock sliders, and a rear bumper. I’m going to make the winch cradle soon and rebuild my rock sliders full length. Plus I am planning on adding a belly pan so that’ll add more weight above what I told them but shouldn’t be to much to require changing anything.
 

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If i remember Fox 2.5 OE's do come with 550lbs/inch springs. Should be plenty and still ride plush. once you start getting into 600lbs and up you'll start feeling the springs if you didnt have the weight. Im almost maxing out my adjusters to keep my front at around 2.75" with the 500lbs springs, i think 2 more turns and i would't be able to go any higher. I'm still within the specs i need to keep some droop. I have some details of what's needed to measure that in my built thread, info came straight from Accutune. Next time i get my Kings out for service i'll upgrade to the 550 or 600lbs springs. I don't have an RTT, or double battery though the 12k winch adds some weight, but since there are 2 springs holding up the front an extra 100lbs/200lbs of rate total in the front springs should be plenty for my application. the Clayton springs are still laughing they have sagged like 1/8" in 2 years :)
 

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I called Carli. They said the spring rate (700 lb) is correct.
I am going to take the truck to a different shop and have the nitrogen pressure checked.
The front should not be 1 1/4" higher than the rear, especially since I have the rear springs installed as well.
Hopefully this other shop can find something that the first missed. They can't get me in until after the new year though.
saga continues.

You would be shocked then. The ride is not good. The front end feels like it is jammed in the highest position it could be in. Not that that is a thing. It's just how it feels. Pretty much no small or medium bump compliance. I don't even want to try to hit a bigger bump because it feels like it would damage my truck. I already have a bunch of new rattles since installing this set-up. If you were local you could give it a shot and see exactly what I am talking about. I'm no "Karen", this particular case must be special.
I know it's another thing, but you can buy the softer springs and have the shop swap them out when they look at the pressures.
 

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If i remember Fox 2.5 OE's do come with 550lbs/inch springs. Should be plenty and still ride plush. once you start getting into 600lbs and up you'll start feeling the springs if you didnt have the weight. Im almost maxing out my adjusters to keep my front at around 2.75" with the 500lbs springs, i think 2 more turns and i would't be able to go any higher. I'm still within the specs i need to keep some droop. I have some details of what's needed to measure that in my built thread, info came straight from Accutune. Next time i get my Kings out for service i'll upgrade to the 550 or 600lbs springs. I don't have an RTT, or double battery though the 12k winch adds some weight, but since there are 2 springs holding up the front an extra 100lbs/200lbs of rate total in the front springs should be plenty for my application. the Clayton springs are still laughing they have sagged like 1/8" in 2 years :)
We shall see. I know the winch and cradle should add roughly 100lbs. So I need to get on that sooner than later so the coilovers don’t feel stiff. I’m still eyeballing the synergy springs but they haven’t released their 1” version. It’s been almost 2 years. I’ll see how my truck feels after doing the rear bumper. Need to do a high clearance rear but need to keep my tow hitch.
 
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Following this thread, hoping this gets resolved. I know the Carli kits are one of the top choices for the HD guys. Surprised CJC hasn't been more helpful.
 

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I just checked my Fox 2.5 coilover springs from Accutune Off-Road and they are 550 lbs and ride like a dream! I can't believe that you are being told that 700 lb springs are the right ones for your truck!
 

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Pretty sure my kings have 550 lb springs as well. They were perfect on my old 1500. A little light for the eco I have them on now.
You can order 600lb springs for it but I’m sure you know that already. If you do maybe you could make a deal with the op. Lol
 

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No way in hell there should be a 700lb spring on there. Even with heavy bumper, winch, etc. That's going to ride way to rough. Icon's come with a 650lb spring and that was almost too rough on "normal" driving. Now when you abused it it smoothed out wonderfully.

I'm shocked CJC is getting away with selling that to people.
 

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You can order 600lb springs for it but I’m sure you know that already. If you do maybe you could make a deal with the op. Lol
I’ve been meaning to call king and get there input as well as getting a new valve stack spec’d out for this truck. Last time I just drove over to their shop and they were very helpful and got me dialed in, great group of people.
 

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Also I was noticing you are showing 10 ply E rated tires. If you are chasing ride comfort, those need to go

Hopefully this issue gets resolved for you! I think as you have been told by others the spring rate is off ?
 

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I’m curious as well; I’m going back and forth between the Carli Commuter (FOX 2.0s) and the Performance (KING 2.5s). The description on Carli’s site mentions the KINGs come with 600lb rate springs though, so not sure why the OP received 700s.

Having said all that, I’m currently leaning towards the Commuter system. I like the KING bling, but it realistically is more shock than I need for my use.
 
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