You like to move up to 2500

dhay13 · Dec 14, 2022

I have a 2018 2500 6.4 4.10's and in 3 years and 20,000 miles since I have owned it the only issues were the nav messed up and fixed under warranty, the drag link recall and most recently my ABS HCU needed replaced. My son had an identical 2018 and put 90,000 miles on it in 2 years with 9000 of that towing an 8000lb TT all across the country and he never had any issues with his at all. He currently has a 2021 2500 Cummins and after about 20,000 miles hasn't had any issues. I'd buy another one but aren't planning to. If they ever offer another lifetime powertrain warranty I'll likely buy one

HEMIMANN · Dec 14, 2022

06 Dodge said:
BTW you get 50-70% of that money back when you sell it and trucks with a diesel retain there value better then a gas engine and IMHO have a lot less problems then the HEMI...

Sure, but it's out of pocket while you own it - at least in the form of higher payments. Higher resale value doesn't help you while you're owning it.

So, the 2 reasons to go diesel are (1) towing higher loads and in hilly terrain and (2) frequent towing.

I do neither, but tow behind the half ton capability - squatting on the jounce pads with squirrel lights up in the treetops is not sufficient for my driving preference. I'd buy the 2500 and 6.4 Hemi again easily.

Dean2 · Dec 14, 2022

I tow but not all that often anymore. The 6.4 has lots of grunt for the times I do. The whole nonsense around mileage towing and better performance only applies if you are towing 8000 plus 70 % of the time. Outside of that, the gas is a better all round option by far and I have owned enough diesels to know that for sure.

stevenP · Dec 15, 2022

Cons are they arent a sedan for cruising in the city, even one with a 6 foot bed is 20 feet long. Plus the HDs are heavy most over 8K lbs. They cost a ton. I only own one so I can tow my RV, but It does that so well its crazy! I have owned three different ones and so far no issues besides the 14 recalls.

dhay13 · Dec 15, 2022

If towing more than maybe 11,000-12,000lbs then I would go Cummins but less than that and the 6.4 will be fine. My son was happy with the performance of his 6.4 but he was driving about 50,000 miles a year and depreciation on the gasser was horrible so he went with the Cummins with his next truck. He averaged about 8.5 MPG towing his 8000lb TT with the 6.4 and about 12 MPG with the Cummins. I towed that same TT with my 2013 1500 5.7 with 3.55s and only got 7 MPG so the 2500 6.4 got about 1.5 MPG better than the 1500 did.

jejb · Dec 15, 2022

06 Dodge said:
BTW you get 50-70% of that money back when you sell it and trucks with a diesel retain there value better then a gas engine and IMHO have a lot less problems then the HEMI...

More like 100% of the cost of the Cummins comes back at resale time. I've compared and been through it. I've never had a diesel option lose any value at tradein/resale time. I'm not saying it is the only way to go. There are good arguments for both types of motors.

Regarding the ride, a 2500 with air suspension is a pretty nice ride, loaded or unloaded. But if you are considering upgrading campers sometime down the road, I'd go with a 1 ton SRW to be more future proofed. But those do ride rough, even with air suspension.

jejb · Dec 15, 2022

Zoe Saldana said:
The payload is higher with the 6.4L.

This is true, and something you should look at hard if considering a Cummins 2500. Because of outdated .gov regulations, the max GVWR of a 3/4 ton is 10K pounds, even though they are capable of much more. A 1 ton changes that math though.

BossHogg · Dec 15, 2022

SniperDroid said:
Diesel cost too much to maintain

What is too much?

Papa Red · Dec 15, 2022

I got a 2020 2500 crew cab with 8' bed with the 6.4 and 8 speed tranny and love the truck. Plenty of power and the ride is very comfortable. I keep my trucks a long time and this one is a pleasure to own. I say go for your upgrade and be happy!

Red

Joe mama · Dec 15, 2022

I had a 2016 EcoDiesel and traded it in on a 2020 2500 Cummins. My trailer weighs 6,500 lbs. The EcoDiesel was capable of towing that trailer but the 2500 doesn't even know it's behind you. While towing the EcoDiesel was got 13 ~ 14 MPG. The Cummins gets 12 ~13 MPG. Highway mileage not towing had a bigger difference. The Eco was 26 ~ 29 MPG. The Cummins gets 20~ 23 MPG. There is not much difference in the ride except when hitting a bump while towing. The Eco Diesel and trailer would porpoise Where the 2500 does not. Another difference is when passing a Semi truck. No sway with the 2500. Overall, it a much less stressful drive.

PLF1 · Dec 15, 2022

I'm All for a less stressful drive ! Looks like its time to test drive a Ram 2500 .

tron67j · Dec 15, 2022

My last Ram was 2093 2500 with 5.7, 16 great years and then bought a 2018 2500 6.4 Ram new in 2019, been solid so far, just a ABS module replaced under warranty.

I thought about a 3509 but figured if going there then maybe a diesel. I never considered a diesel for a 2500 as it reduces payload too much and it wouldn't make a difference in my use. 6.4 has more than enough power and bought the Tradesman so that could max out payload capacity at about 3k. I added a few factory options I wanted for much less than I could have bought a similarly provisioned truck in the lot.

Good luck

jejb · Dec 16, 2022

PLF1 said:
I'm All for a less stressful drive ! Looks like its time to test drive a Ram 2500 .

Oh yeah, you'll get that in spades moving up to a 2500. Far more stable and confidence inspiring towing experience

runamuck · Dec 16, 2022

I have been shopping for one this year. hard to find any deals that I want to sign up for. my 1500 laramie tows our 6000# trailer fine, even on our last two trips, DFW to woodland park, co. and DFW to custer sd and back. we want a slightly larger trailer and we want be able to take a little more gear than we do now so the need for a larger tow vehicle. the 2500 gasser with only a bit more powerful motor but weighing 1000 more pounds wont pull much harder but will pull better and carry more stuff and be able to hook up a heavier trailer. folks I know with them get the same mileage towing so that is a wash and the ones I have test drove are a bit of a barge to pilot around town compared to the 1500 but I figure one would make our overall towing experience much better. I dont have the budget for a dsl so the 6.4 will be my choice. I have been offered as much as 40,000 for my '19 laramie trade-in but new 2500 laramie 6.4's are scarce and expensive around here and even one year old used ones often have 40-50,000 miles on em so I am still looking.

2020PW · Dec 16, 2022

You need to have deep pockets for maintenance on the CTD.

jejb · Dec 17, 2022

2020PW said:
You need to have deep pockets for maintenance on the CTD.

Not if you do the work yourself. Not pushing one motor over the other, just sayin'. I don't trust anyone else to do non-warranty work on any of my stuff, so DIY is my thing.

SniperDroid · Dec 17, 2022

jejb said:
Not if you do the work yourself. Not pushing one motor over the other, just sayin'. I don't trust anyone else to do non-warranty work on any of my stuff, so DIY is my thing.

Let me know how you like crawling around under the truck when your 60 years old...

HEMIMANN · Dec 17, 2022

Some guys are more beat up than others - to each their own. Let's not make assumptions we all should be in a certain physical shape at a certain age, eh?
Thanks.

Dean2 · Dec 17, 2022

I have a 4 Post lift, all the gear and used to do almost all my own work. I am still more than capable of doing it and I still change my own filters and the easy stuff. As far as brakes, and other maintenance that is more work, it just no longer interests me at all. I have a great independent guy that I trust and I am more than happy to pay him to do it.

To each their own, but I know lots of fit, young guys who have zero interest in doing work on their cars. They figure they can make way more working those same hours than they pay for the work. I don't see anything wrong with that perspective either.

Zoe Saldana · Dec 17, 2022

SniperDroid said:
Let me know how you like crawling around under the truck when your 60 years old...

It's one of those simple joys of life to tinker/fix/maintain the truck.

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