Synthetic Oil

Oil of Choice

  • Castrol Syntec/Edge

    Votes: 236 8.5%
  • Royal Purple

    Votes: 327 11.8%
  • AMSOil

    Votes: 400 14.4%
  • Valvoline Synpower

    Votes: 160 5.8%
  • Mobil 1

    Votes: 994 35.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 662 23.8%

  • Total voters
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What’s the scoop on this oil is it preferable to Redline?
The oils are formulated utilizing the absolute best components and are designed by one of the brightest minds in the industry, Dr Leslie R Rudnick who was a molecule builder for Mobil and has quite the list of patents in lubricants. They have multiple lines available including their premium plus PCMO which is formulated using PAO base stocks and ANs/esters along with star polymer VII. Extremely shear stable and using a detergent package that is superior for LSPI protection. IMO better than anything else available in that regard. Then they also have a euro line and supercar line. I posted VOAs of the supercar line not to far back. Its also formulated using PAO/AN/ ester but using a more old school higher calcium detergent pack. As to whether is preferable to redline thats up to you to decide! I believe @ramffml is the only one currently using HPL and I intend to switch to HPL either for my next change or the one after!
 

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The oils are formulated utilizing the absolute best components and are designed by one of the brightest minds in the industry, Dr Leslie R Rudnick who was a molecule builder for Mobil and has quite the list of patents in lubricants. They have multiple lines available including their premium plus PCMO which is formulated using PAO base stocks and ANs/esters along with star polymer VII. Extremely shear stable and using a detergent package that is superior for LSPI protection. IMO better than anything else available in that regard. Then they also have a euro line and supercar line. I posted VOAs of the supercar line not to far back. Its also formulated using PAO/AN/ ester but using a more old school higher calcium detergent pack. As to whether is preferable to redline thats up to you to decide! I believe @ramffml is the only one currently using HPL and I intend to switch to HPL either for my next change or the one after!
Which oil do you pan to use?
 

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The oils are formulated utilizing the absolute best components and are designed by one of the brightest minds in the industry, Dr Leslie R Rudnick who was a molecule builder for Mobil and has quite the list of patents in lubricants. They have multiple lines available including their premium plus PCMO which is formulated using PAO base stocks and ANs/esters along with star polymer VII. Extremely shear stable and using a detergent package that is superior for LSPI protection. IMO better than anything else available in that regard. Then they also have a euro line and supercar line. I posted VOAs of the supercar line not to far back. Its also formulated using PAO/AN/ ester but using a more old school higher calcium detergent pack. As to whether is preferable to redline thats up to you to decide! I believe @ramffml is the only one currently using HPL and I intend to switch to HPL either for my next change or the one after!

I've mentioned more than once that I get pinging every once in a while. The use of Magnesium over Calcium in HPL compared to Redline was one of the reasons I wanted to try HPL, since that is supposed to help with LSPI. I'm not noticing any difference in that regard, and to be honest I didn't expect much difference either (though I thought i'd be at least worth a try).

But this oil is extremely quiet in my engine. Definitely more quiet than what I had before which was M1 FS 0w-40 with some LG thrown in. I honestly don't think it's ever run this smooth and quiet when its hot, even with RL, but memory can be unreliable. Maybe due to the increase in moly? I love how good the premium plus is in the cold winters as well, that was the second attraction even though with the average winter temps I see I'm probably fine with any standard 0w in that regard.

I'm going to take a sample for Blackstone about 4 weeks before doing my next oil change and if it comes back great, then I'll just order a bunch more. Shipping to my house is costly so I have to do it in bulk, several oil changes at once to make it worth it.
 

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Which oil do you pan to use?
Im still deciding. I may use the supercar line but i might use the 0w20 or 0w30 supercar or i might use the premium plus 5w30. They are also formulating a PAO/an/ester 20wt with no VII. it will test out to be a 5w20 but id like to see the PDS first!
 

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Im still deciding. I may use the supercar line but i might use the 0w20 or 0w30 supercar or i might use the premium plus 5w30. They are also formulating a PAO/an/ester 20wt with no VII. it will test out to be a 5w20 but id like to see the PDS first!

Heck, da YooPee is a virtual Palm Springs in winter - you don't need no 0W! Besides, with all PAO base oil a 5W should pump ok in the Hemi. It was Red Line's much stiffer 5W that wasn't flowing well in colder temps, being at the top of the SAE 5W vis grade. Was @Hemi395 that was reporting piston slap, I believe.
 

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Heck, da YooPee is a virtual Palm Springs in winter - you don't need no 0W! Besides, with all PAO base oil a 5W should pump ok in the Hemi. It was Red Line's much stiffer 5W that wasn't flowing well in colder temps, being at the top of the SAE 5W vis grade. Was @Hemi395 that was reporting piston slap, I believe.
Lol hey dat lake kept us 15 degrees warmer than tennessee and alabama this weekend! But she gave us 30 inches of snow lol
 

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Lol hey dat lake kept us 15 degrees warmer than tennessee and alabama this weekend! But she gave us 30 inches of snow lol
We be -9F with 30 mph winds. Only North Dakota is a better garden spot of the U.S., hence their logo "The Peace Garden State" (wtf does that even mean, anyway?)

Exclude Alaska - they're like real Siberia.
 

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We be -9F with 30 mph winds. Only North Dakota is a better garden spot of the U.S., hence their logo "The Peace Garden State" (wtf does that even mean, anyway?)

Exclude Alaska - they're like real Siberia.
Someone on youtube posted a cold start from alaska this weekend... -55
 

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Ok, that's cold - basically Russia.

Forget the oil, gasoline flash point is -40 C/F, along with boiling temp of propane. How anything goes is beyond me.

Speaking of which, Dad was stationed @ Dutch Harbor, AK in WWII, assigned to the SeaBees to keep the air field clear since that was where they expected Japan to attack (until their encryption code was broken, sans Midway). His crew had to make wood fires under the bulldozer engines to start them. He told of aircraft being blasted off moorings by wind into the harbor. Fun times.
 

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Of all the people the ceo or president of Toyota has said that we shouldnt be putting all of our eggs into the EV basket. I fully expect him to be fired tomorrow, charges by the next day, and then executed by thursday.

“I am often criticized in the press because I won’t declare that the automotive industry should commit 100% to BEV,” he said. “I believe we need to be realistic about when society will be able to fully adopt battery-electric vehicles and when our infrastructure can support them at scale.”

Toyoda compared the rush to EVs as similar to companies a few years back promising we’d all be riding around in self-driving cars by now. He said EVs, like self-driving cars, will take longer to become mainstream than most pundits proclaim.

He also said Toyota isn’t a company that takes a “one-size-fits-all approach” to its products and that there are alternative solutions for meeting carbon neutrality goals. At Toyota, some of these solutions include carbon-neutral synthetic fuels, hydrogen fuel cells, and even engines that burn hydrogen. Toyoda said he sees hydrogen as just as promising as EVs in the fight against carbon emissions, especially for the transport industry, and that he recently drove a Yaris powered by hydrogen and was “blown away by its performance.”
 
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The issue being that it takes more electricty to generate hydrogen then you get from burning it, lmao? From your gov't, It takes more energy to produce hydrogen (by separating it from other elements in molecules) than hydrogen provides when it is converted to useful energy. I have to 2035 to get a couple old vehicles in my stable, I would like a 12v cummins if I can.
 

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Of all the people the ceo or president of Toyota has said that we shouldnt be putting all of our eggs into the EV basket. I fully expect him to be fired tomorrow, charges by the next day, and then executed by thursday.

“I am often criticized in the press because I won’t declare that the automotive industry should commit 100% to BEV,” he said. “I believe we need to be realistic about when society will be able to fully adopt battery-electric vehicles and when our infrastructure can support them at scale.”

Toyoda compared the rush to EVs as similar to companies a few years back promising we’d all be riding around in self-driving cars by now. He said EVs, like self-driving cars, will take longer to become mainstream than most pundits proclaim.

He also said Toyota isn’t a company that takes a “one-size-fits-all approach” to its products and that there are alternative solutions for meeting carbon neutrality goals. At Toyota, some of these solutions include carbon-neutral synthetic fuels, hydrogen fuel cells, and even engines that burn hydrogen. Toyoda said he sees hydrogen as just as promising as EVs in the fight against carbon emissions, especially for the transport industry, and that he recently drove a Yaris powered by hydrogen and was “blown away by its performance.”
Finally a CEO with some common sense.
 
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