Ram recalls and terrible customer service

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Join “Legal Shield”. Thereafter submit your situation briefly. Talk to Atty assigned. This will take about 3 days, but you should get some sound advise.

Meantime I’d call Ram Care and dealerships daily. I’d pick most viable dealership and talk to their parts department as well as general manager. See what they say about part availability. If returnable, order the part yourself.

Keep your cool (won’t be easy). Ask for their guidance. Try to get them “on your side” by being tremendously reasonable. Ask what they would do if they were in your situation.

I’d Re contact Ram Care (more appropriately named - Ram could care - but doesn’t.”

See if there are any “Presidential Award Winner” dealers that you can contact.

I’d be contacting each daily until resolved. Again be reasonable. (Hard to do!)

Legal Shield generally will write a letter on your behalf. That won’t hurt anything.

I agree with other commenters - dealers are left to be “monkey in the middle”.
 

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I did not read all 7 pages of this thread so maybe this was already covered, but you might try Autonation in the Roseville automall. There was a recall on mine for a water pump issue ( how the hell does a water pump catch fire??? ), several dealerships told me the parts were not available. Autonation had the replacement pump in stock and got things taken care of promptly. They have handled a few other recall issues for me with no glitches.
 

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Follow the money

I would only deal with the dealership you bought it from. I would also deal directly with the bank whom lent you the money through financing. I would speak to the bank about your loan and explain to them that you purchased a vehicle through such-and-such dealership and that dealership is not allowing you to properly register the vehicle. Explain to the bank that until the dealership fulfills their end of the agreement you will not be paying another cent toward the agreement.

When you go this route, it is critical to followup each conversation with an email memorializing whom you spoke with and what was stated/agreed to. Way too many times people "forget" conversations and agreements.

I would also file a small claims court action against the dealership. I wouldn't expect much from this other than it shows you aren't some delinquent who just doesn't want to pay their bills.
 

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Maybe worth a try - check the nhtsa.gov/recalls website, type in your VIN# and scroll down till you see the following message:
If the manufacturer has failed or is unable to remedy this safety recall for your vehicle in a timely manner, please contact the NHTSA Vehicle Safety Hotline at: 1-888-327-4236 or TTY: 1-800-424-9153 or file an online complaint with NHTSA. Good luck!
 

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After just getting hung up on by a Ram Customer care representative, I do not know what to do here. I'd like the community's advice here.

TLDR; I have had a vehicle that is under warranty and cannot be registered with the state due to recalls that Ram has been negligent on for 5 months. I have been completely blown off. What would you do?

Back story - I have a 2019 Ram 2500 CTD and live in California. Recall W03 (transmission valve body) is open on my vehicle. I went to reregister my vehicle with the state and was informed that I cannot, due to an open recall. I contacted my local dealership, Thompson CDJR out of Placerville California, and scheduled an appointment.

1st attempt at making an appointment is in September 2022. About a month later, at the time of the appointment, I was told they did not get the parts and the appointment must be rescheduled. I scheduled another appointment as soon as possible - about a month later.

2nd attempt, I simultaneously scheduled an appointment with Folsom CDJR. They did the same thing Thompson CDJR did. At the time of the appointment it was cancelled due to parts not being delivered to the dealership.

10-20-2022 I submitted two attempts at contacting Ram Cares through their submission form on their website about this issue explaining what just happened with both attempts at getting service. I never received any response. I got an email to rate the service I was given. I gave it all zeros since they ignored me.

11-8-2022 Ram Cares calls me in response to my poor review of their service. It was a Case manager named Kathy. I explain the whole situation to her. She confirmed that Ram does indeed have parts available and she then contacted Thompson CDJR and worked with them on coordinating parts and an appointment. Thompson CDJR called me and said they will get it done, and scheduled an appointment for 12-8-2022.

3rd Attempt, on 12-6-2022, 2 days before my 12-8-2022 appointment, Thompson CDJR calls me to tell me they don't have parts for the W03 recall. I reschedule ASAP. Closest date is 1-08-2023.

12-6-2022 I call Ram Cares and speak with a woman in which I explain the previous events, give her my case number, and ask her to have the Case Manager, Kathy, to call me back. NO PHONE CALL WAS RETURNED.

12-22-22 I called Ram Cares and spoke with a gentleman explaining my situation, gave him my case number, and told him to have my case manager call me back. NO PHONE CALL WAS RETURNED.

12-30-22 Ram Cares called me informing me that I have 3 open recalls and asks if I am willing to come in. I explain I have been more than willing and have made 3 attempts, but every time there has been a lack of parts being ordered. I explain that at this time I would like financial compensation since my vehicle has been deadlined due to Rams inability to perform the recall. He offers be "free tire rotations and oil changes"
I said I will have to consult lawyer at this point to seek advice.
He puts me on about a 8 second hold, comes back and says "All we can offer you is free tire rotations and oil changes. I am closing the case out at this time. Have a good day" and hangs up on me before I can respond.

1-08-2022 will be the 4th attempt at getting the recall done, and the 5th month that my truck will have been illegal to drive. I have been making payments on a vehicle that has been a brick in my front yard for 5 months and have been completely blown off by customer service.

What would you do??? I have made an incredible amount, and variety, of attempts to get this service completed and have been completely ignored. I feel like my only option is to seek a lawyer and pursue this legally. Keep in mind, my payment on this truck is ~$750 a month and it has been deadlined/unregisterable with the state for 5 months and illegal to drive.

This has been an absolutely terrible experience with Ram Customer Service.
First off, sorry your dealing with unprofessionalism...I happen to have a cousin that lives in Placerville.
Hope your Case Mgr isn't "Maureen"...she's useless.
Ask them if they'd like to purchase your vehicle back (with interest).
Let them know you'd hate to get Attys involved but you will.
They should pay you compensation for not being able to utilize your truck.
They did me over a broken windshield which wasn't available... They offered to pay 3 months of payments on my vehicle, however I told him I paid cash for my vehicle. They had me send my bill of sale and they cut me a check equal to 4 months if I were making payments.
Plus gave me a 7-year 100,000 mile maximum extended warranty for free.
Place your foot on their neck and don't let up until you get what you need.
 
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I’d check with a lawyer and see if lemon laws in your state apply .
"LEMON LAWS" are usually associated with constantly broken/breaking vehicles. This guy is a "victim" of the State of California and NOT a broken vehicle. Most states outside of California don't give hoot about open recalls on vehicles?
 

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You explained all the grief in your life in the first sentence of the third paragraph. Your gonna need more than a lawyer to fix it!
Thanks for your support dude. If you were in his situation you'd be distraught too. He's done everything right.
 

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After just getting hung up on by a Ram Customer care representative, I do not know what to do here. I'd like the community's advice here.

TLDR; I have had a vehicle that is under warranty and cannot be registered with the state due to recalls that Ram has been negligent on for 5 months. I have been completely blown off. What would you do?

Back story - I have a 2019 Ram 2500 CTD and live in California. Recall W03 (transmission valve body) is open on my vehicle. I went to reregister my vehicle with the state and was informed that I cannot, due to an open recall. I contacted my local dealership, Thompson CDJR out of Placerville California, and scheduled an appointment.

1st attempt at making an appointment is in September 2022. About a month later, at the time of the appointment, I was told they did not get the parts and the appointment must be rescheduled. I scheduled another appointment as soon as possible - about a month later.

2nd attempt, I simultaneously scheduled an appointment with Folsom CDJR. They did the same thing Thompson CDJR did. At the time of the appointment it was cancelled due to parts not being delivered to the dealership.

10-20-2022 I submitted two attempts at contacting Ram Cares through their submission form on their website about this issue explaining what just happened with both attempts at getting service. I never received any response. I got an email to rate the service I was given. I gave it all zeros since they ignored me.

11-8-2022 Ram Cares calls me in response to my poor review of their service. It was a Case manager named Kathy. I explain the whole situation to her. She confirmed that Ram does indeed have parts available and she then contacted Thompson CDJR and worked with them on coordinating parts and an appointment. Thompson CDJR called me and said they will get it done, and scheduled an appointment for 12-8-2022.

3rd Attempt, on 12-6-2022, 2 days before my 12-8-2022 appointment, Thompson CDJR calls me to tell me they don't have parts for the W03 recall. I reschedule ASAP. Closest date is 1-08-2023.

12-6-2022 I call Ram Cares and speak with a woman in which I explain the previous events, give her my case number, and ask her to have the Case Manager, Kathy, to call me back. NO PHONE CALL WAS RETURNED.

12-22-22 I called Ram Cares and spoke with a gentleman explaining my situation, gave him my case number, and told him to have my case manager call me back. NO PHONE CALL WAS RETURNED.

12-30-22 Ram Cares called me informing me that I have 3 open recalls and asks if I am willing to come in. I explain I have been more than willing and have made 3 attempts, but every time there has been a lack of parts being ordered. I explain that at this time I would like financial compensation since my vehicle has been deadlined due to Rams inability to perform the recall. He offers be "free tire rotations and oil changes"
I said I will have to consult lawyer at this point to seek advice.
He puts me on about a 8 second hold, comes back and says "All we can offer you is free tire rotations and oil changes. I am closing the case out at this time. Have a good day" and hangs up on me before I can respond.

1-08-2022 will be the 4th attempt at getting the recall done, and the 5th month that my truck will have been illegal to drive. I have been making payments on a vehicle that has been a brick in my front yard for 5 months and have been completely blown off by customer service.

What would you do??? I have made an incredible amount, and variety, of attempts to get this service completed and have been completely ignored. I feel like my only option is to seek a lawyer and pursue this legally. Keep in mind, my payment on this truck is ~$750 a month and it has been deadlined/unregisterable with the state for 5 months and illegal to drive.

This has been an absolutely terrible experience with Ram Customer Service.
First thing I would have done after the first blow off was contact a lawyer. A lawyer has way more power than an individual in these types of things. I have two recalls on my truck also but ram can't get the parts, so they say. But I bought the parts so why couldn't they. Fixed the items myself and changed the status on my car fax account.
 

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@DStand , there are a couple of ways you could register the truck in a different state. Disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. Consulting an attorney is probably necessary in these types of matters. But here are some possible ways to register your vehicle outside of California:

One, South Dakota will allow folks to register RV's without being a state resident, perhaps the same applies to passenger or non-commercial vehicles.

Two, an attorney could formulate a revocable trust and put the truck in the trust from a neighboring (free state) state for registration. The truck now belongs to the trust and it is legal for you drive it in any state you choose. The down side to this is you may need an address and/or proof of staying in that state with some sort of real property or rental agreement and/or utility bill when registering the vehicle.
Something else to be aware of, some vehicle manufacturers won't honor the vehicle warranty if the vehicle is put into a trust. Ram is NOT one of those manufacturers, but non-Ram warranties may have some exclusions from putting the vehicle in a trust.

Just some thoughts. I bid you well in your truck registration issues.
 

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Poster MadMad was right. Find or deduce the emails of the top brass at Fca and send them nice short emails describing the situation in brief.

I did exactly this a few years and my months long problem was solved in a day!

Op, look up madmads post to see addresses he used. If you pm me, I will look up the addresses i used.

It's nearly a 100% sure fix.
 

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There is a lawyer in Oregon who specializes in warranty stuff. Probably a few of those around.
 

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Pardon a crass answer, I am Not trying to offend.
Register in another state at another personal property. California law for the registration appears to be the root issue and the recall secondary. If another state is not possible I also agree with the lemon law/counsel approach but this will take time as well.
The secondary issue is parts availability and the dealership willingness to honor what they have advised you.
Recalls typically take 3-6 months for parts distribution after the dealership places orders to the manufacturer Based on a speculative forecast of the items needed. Lean manufacturing supposedly saves money but can create aggravating circumstance. So the delays are unfortunately normal. I do not agree with this but merely offering an explanation & an alternative.

Regards & hope for resolution soon
 

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i had an issue with the jack that is supplied with the truck, trying to remove the nut to get the jack out from under the seat. My son and I took us three hours to get this wing nut off. I emailed customer care about the issue and the response I got was terrible, so what I did I googled the head honcho"s email address of Ram and sent him the customer service email along with the case file number in the reply I got from customer care . Two days later I get this call from 2nd in command about my email, explaining the issue I had. We had a pretty good conversation about this issue. I told him how would you like to try and change a tire in a snow storm, pouring rain or in the middle of no where fighting to get your jacket out because of a wing nut that is so hard to remove just to get at a jack. The response from him was we are very sorry about this and that this is the first time we had a complaint about this, that they will be looking into this issue. i don't know if it got resolved but at least it was brought to someone's attention higher up in the food chain. They that route and see what happens.
i even had an issue with another truck in the four wheel drive, with a dealer. My truck was bread and butter at the time. it was not ready as promised lost close to $8000 in lost wages for truck, myself and airfare. I told them YOU promised to have this ready so somebody better cough up the lost wages. The bill was something like $5000, I was so loud they heard me in the showroom. they disappeared with the work order and when all said and done I only had to pay for the paperwork like $25.
 

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Are there parts delays?...yes there are. Are any of us happy about it? Heck no, but is today's reality.

But to declare the lawyer nuclear option and then call them back just over a week later to tell the next customer care rep your "story" and think they're going to help? Sorry but that is crazy. You've already used the lawyer threat position to them, they as a business are only going to shut you down and document "their" side from here out to minimize their risk.

So get a lawyer like you mentioned, or register your truck in another state, sell it, or one of the other ideas listed here that might work. Cause you've put yourself in the corner on this one.

Sorry if this seems harsh, but shortages haven't been a new thing, nor dealer games/bs/scams. We don't like it, I haven't seen any brand thats doing it better yet as they all have the local dealer syndrome. And the state registration restrictions are really the genesis of this to begin with IMHO. But between all of this junk, no one can mention a lawyer and think that it is a power play IMO.
 

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i had an issue with the jack that is supplied with the truck, trying to remove the nut to get the jack out from under the seat. My son and I took us three hours to get this wing nut off. I emailed customer care about the issue and the response I got was terrible, so what I did I googled the head honcho"s email address of Ram and sent him the customer service email along with the case file number in the reply I got from customer care . Two days later I get this call from 2nd in command about my email, explaining the issue I had. We had a pretty good conversation about this issue. I told him how would you like to try and change a tire in a snow storm, pouring rain or in the middle of no where fighting to get your jacket out because of a wing nut that is so hard to remove just to get at a jack. The response from him was we are very sorry about this and that this is the first time we had a complaint about this, that they will be looking into this issue. i don't know if it got resolved but at least it was brought to someone's attention higher up in the food chain. They that route and see what happens.
i even had an issue with another truck in the four wheel drive, with a dealer. My truck was bread and butter at the time. it was not ready as promised lost close to $8000 in lost wages for truck, myself and airfare. I told them YOU promised to have this ready so somebody better cough up the lost wages. The bill was something like $5000, I was so loud they heard me in the showroom. they disappeared with the work order and when all said and done I only had to pay for the paperwork like $25.
Off thread but on your issue with the wing nut ! Get the tire jack bolt down kit for a 2019 maybe newer ! It is a 2 piece stud and wing nut so you only remove the wing not not the welded in stud lol.. I think I found the parts Mopar Your dealer should have it.. 1 piece is a stud other is wing nut !
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After just getting hung up on by a Ram Customer care representative, I do not know what to do here. I'd like the community's advice here.

TLDR; I have had a vehicle that is under warranty and cannot be registered with the state due to recalls that Ram has been negligent on for 5 months. I have been completely blown off. What would you do?

Back story - I have a 2019 Ram 2500 CTD and live in California. Recall W03 (transmission valve body) is open on my vehicle. I went to reregister my vehicle with the state and was informed that I cannot, due to an open recall. I contacted my local dealership, Thompson CDJR out of Placerville California, and scheduled an appointment.

1st attempt at making an appointment is in September 2022. About a month later, at the time of the appointment, I was told they did not get the parts and the appointment must be rescheduled. I scheduled another appointment as soon as possible - about a month later.

2nd attempt, I simultaneously scheduled an appointment with Folsom CDJR. They did the same thing Thompson CDJR did. At the time of the appointment it was cancelled due to parts not being delivered to the dealership.

10-20-2022 I submitted two attempts at contacting Ram Cares through their submission form on their website about this issue explaining what just happened with both attempts at getting service. I never received any response. I got an email to rate the service I was given. I gave it all zeros since they ignored me.

11-8-2022 Ram Cares calls me in response to my poor review of their service. It was a Case manager named Kathy. I explain the whole situation to her. She confirmed that Ram does indeed have parts available and she then contacted Thompson CDJR and worked with them on coordinating parts and an appointment. Thompson CDJR called me and said they will get it done, and scheduled an appointment for 12-8-2022.

3rd Attempt, on 12-6-2022, 2 days before my 12-8-2022 appointment, Thompson CDJR calls me to tell me they don't have parts for the W03 recall. I reschedule ASAP. Closest date is 1-08-2023.

12-6-2022 I call Ram Cares and speak with a woman in which I explain the previous events, give her my case number, and ask her to have the Case Manager, Kathy, to call me back. NO PHONE CALL WAS RETURNED.

12-22-22 I called Ram Cares and spoke with a gentleman explaining my situation, gave him my case number, and told him to have my case manager call me back. NO PHONE CALL WAS RETURNED.

12-30-22 Ram Cares called me informing me that I have 3 open recalls and asks if I am willing to come in. I explain I have been more than willing and have made 3 attempts, but every time there has been a lack of parts being ordered. I explain that at this time I would like financial compensation since my vehicle has been deadlined due to Rams inability to perform the recall. He offers be "free tire rotations and oil changes"
I said I will have to consult lawyer at this point to seek advice.
He puts me on about a 8 second hold, comes back and says "All we can offer you is free tire rotations and oil changes. I am closing the case out at this time. Have a good day" and hangs up on me before I can respond.

1-08-2022 will be the 4th attempt at getting the recall done, and the 5th month that my truck will have been illegal to drive. I have been making payments on a vehicle that has been a brick in my front yard for 5 months and have been completely blown off by customer service.

What would you do??? I have made an incredible amount, and variety, of attempts to get this service completed and have been completely ignored. I feel like my only option is to seek a lawyer and pursue this legally. Keep in mind, my payment on this truck is ~$750 a month and it has been deadlined/unregisterable with the state for 5 months and illegal to drive.

This has been an absolutely terrible experience with Ram Customer Service.
First, I find it troublesome to hear that your state has refused re-registration because of an open recall. But that's another topic. I don't recall hearing of a case like that here in New York.

The recall W03 is for a valvebody retrofit kit, PN: CKLSW031AB. It is not the valvebody. As of today, 2 Jan 2023 at 1527 hrs the kit is on national backorder. The factory is fulfilling backorders from the dealers based on first in, first out, until normal supply levels are adequate.

These cases mean that a dealer MUST have an order into distribution accompanied by a VIN and a service repair order (RO). If this was done by the first dealer you went to they'd be in line for receiving the kit when one becomes available. If you went there and they had no parts, there was either a problem in how they placed the order or it wasn't there when you went in for service. They should not have scheduled a service appointment unless they had the part in hand.

Attempting to get the kit from subsequent dealers only had the effect of contributing to your frustration and only prolong availability.

As to telling Ram Cares that you intend to seek legal representation, you must realize that only triggers a disincentive to help you out, which is why they closed your case. Why keep a case open if you're resorting to legal methods? They are likely powerless to expedite what's happening on the supply side of things, anyways.

Sorry to hear of your plight, but sometimes dealer hopping can make matters worse when the parts aren't available.

Regards,
Dusty
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So I have a suggestion for you,, Call the Califonia DMV, they have an 800 number and in my experence they are not all that hard to deal with when you have a valid reason to call. (that should be self explanitory) The solenoids are not a safety or emissions related,and I would think that they would/could issue a waiver since you surely have the documentation. And no, I am not forgiving RAM Cares but just pointing out that there might be a better and more direct way to handle this situation.. ( and yes, I had my solenoids replaced and without any parts hassle)
 

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Dstand, there are a couple of ways you could register the truck in a different state. Disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. Consulting an attorney is probably necessary in these types of matters. But here are some possible ways to register your vehicle outside of California:

One, South Dakota will allow folks to register RV's without being a state resident, perhaps the same applies to passenger or non-commercial vehicles.

Two, an attorney could formulate a revocable trust and put the truck in the trust from a neighboring (free state) state for registration. The truck now belongs to the trust and it is legal for you drive it in any state you choose. The down side to this is you may need an address and/or proof of staying in that state with some sort of real property or rental agreement and/or utility bill when registering the vehicle.
Something else to be aware of, some vehicle manufacturers won't honor the vehicle warranty if the vehicle is put into a trust. Ram is NOT one of those manufacturers, but non-Ram warranties may have some exclusions from putting the vehicle in a trust.

Just some thoughts. I bid you well in your truck registration issues.
I will just wait for the state of Kansas to get off there asses and send me a title so I can re-register the truck.
 
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