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driving anything with a rating of 10,001 pounds, must have a Class B License, although, i don't really think the police enforce it.

Assuming you're not driving commercially, it would be PowerBall sort of odds to be ticketed for it. The only time it will be an issue is if you're in a crash. Then it can be pretty expensive.
 

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Yet another benefit to EV's - you can crush anyone else not in an EV!

 

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Some of the features look really innovative. Very cool lines on the exterior. Interior looks like its it configurable almost like the old chevy avalanche used to be, with the removable rear seats. Honestly not really an electric vehicle fan though.
It will have to grow on me. Still not happy aboutEV any way
 
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I'd rather pick every blade of grass out of my front lawn with my eyelids than own any EV.
EVs for the mainstream have a long ways to go before acceptance. My wife has finally decided she wants a new vehicle to replace her 2013 Equinox. I thought for sure she would be looking at an EV or at minimum, a hybrid. Nope, she is looking at a Bronco Sport. She said she isn't interested in a vehicle that she has to worry about finding a place to plug it in or wait for it to charge back up.
 

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Same - we reside in an xurb of big cities, it gets to -20F here. EV's only for city commuting, need to install expensive 240V charger in your own garage - very few public or private charger infrastructure. Not enough solar, wind, power lines to power them, either. EV's have a time and place - not one-size-fits-all.
 

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I have been waiting since the 60's for my flying car, no rush folks, this is just a gimmick.
HONDA in Japan does have a version out now, not sure it out for retail yet. Great looking bike in Avatar, looks a lil familiar, see pic attached.

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I watch the video on this thing, I think it is neat for a city dude hauling some 2x4 and food, But as a work truck , not a chance . 3 rows of seats, silly as hell, but the dog would have loved it , the wife and kids could ride in the 2 & 3 row as she thought she owned the truck and should have the front. BTW My 2014 will change heat, radio etc. with voice commands, not that I ever bother, so I bet this thing would maybe be controlled with voice? Not that I will check it out
Even my lightly trimmed out 2019 DT Bighorn has Voice Command (no Nav, plain jane U Connect 4 radio), , I just do not use beyond maybe answering a message in Apple Car Play. I would never remember all of those commands, wording, etc.,.
 

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I think you're on to something. They could feature that as a bit of audible effect like some of the other EV manufacturers do. Sales will be stronger because of the familiar sound. :happy175:
So the pedestrian's know that a Dodge/Ram just pulled up behind them
 
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As I continue watching the option of a range extender, it's hitting me that it may not be a plug-in hybrid with an extender, but rather using the gas engine to both charge batteries and provide power to the electric motors. That sounds like it would eliminate the need for a charging system at home and also make it a one step away from a hydrogen range extending engine. If I am anywhere the mark it eliminates range anxiety, and could mean a similar refueling option as now, short duration when needed, instead of having to create dedicated spaces for vehicles to sit for hours at a time when in use for long trips. Could also mean infrastructure build up is easier as hydrogen can be delivered as fuel is now and stored on site starting at truck stops and larger footprint fuel sellers and trickling to smaller locations as technology gets better and costs go down. And since the government will subsidize our shift to less polluting more efficient trucks.... Win -win
 

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As I continue watching the option of a range extender, it's hitting me that it may not be a plug-in hybrid with an extender, but rather using the gas engine to both charge batteries and provide power to the electric motors. That sounds like it would eliminate the need for a charging system at home and also make it a one step away from a hydrogen range extending engine. If I am anywhere the mark it eliminates range anxiety, and could mean a similar refueling option as now, short duration when needed, instead of having to create dedicated spaces for vehicles to sit for hours at a time when in use for long trips. Could also mean infrastructure build up is easier as hydrogen can be delivered as fuel is now and stored on site starting at truck stops and larger footprint fuel sellers and trickling to smaller locations as technology gets better and costs go down. And since the government will subsidize our shift to less polluting more efficient trucks.... Win -win

Isn't this just a railroad locomotive for roads? The only reason Railroads use electric motors instead of mechanical drives is maximum torque (stall torque) from standstill. And infinitely variable torque adjustment up to the capacity of the motors.

I don't see how that makes sense for road vehicles? What am I missing?
 
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Isn't this just a railroad locomotive for roads? The only reason Railroads use electric motors instead of mechanical drives is maximum torque (stall torque) from standstill. And infinitely variable torque adjustment up to the capacity of the motors.

I don't see how that makes sense for road vehicles? What am I missing?
It is an interesting question. I think the idea is that with a electric vehicle the batteries are the primary source of energy. In a gas powered vehicle the engine has to be sized to meet the highest output capability, so it is larger than the average use made of an ICE vehicle in daily driving. A range extender can be sized for the average use to replenish the battery charge so less fuel is needed to go the same distance with the bonus of a high level of torque from electric motors. And no plug in is needed, although it remains to be seen if they will include the option.

I think this could result in smaller battery packs to meet average daily use, so maybe vehicles don't get excessively heavier as EVs are compared to similar ICE models.
 
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I continue to watch updates on this vehicle, not that it will work for me but with Interest as to what Ram might do in the future. Interested in what Ram does to help people with home chargers, and on that got a laugh from a story I read about a Hummer that someone plugged into a home outlet on a Tuesday and the charging status said ready on Friday. Just can imagine the look on the owner's face.
 

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EVs have generated a lot of controversy. Battery tech is evolving, but so far EVs are best used as commuter vehicles. An EV truck can be successfully used on a construction site and as a power source if it is plugged in at night. Hauling a trailer across the US is going to be a challenge for a long time. A few break throughs in battery tech could change that.

Many smart people would argue that EVs are a stepping stone to hydrogen tech, which is a more permanent solution to a new power source. Diesels are so adaptable they may outlive EVs and compete with hydrogen vehicles. They can actually be converted to hydrogen.
 
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EVs have generated a lot of controversy. Battery tech is evolving, but so far EVs are best used as commuter vehicles. An EV truck can be successfully used on a construction site and as a power source if it is plugged in at night. Hauling a trailer across the US is going to be a challenge for a long time. A few break throughs in battery tech could change that.

Many smart people would argue that EVs are a stepping stone to hydrogen tech, which is a more permanent solution to a new power source. Diesels are so adaptable they may outlive EVs and compete with hydrogen vehicles. They can actually be converted to hydrogen.
The multi-fuel Cummins engine is something that I have been following.
 

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Working in construction I do not see an ev being of any use on the jobsite. First off it's very rarely that you get to work close to home. My average daily commute from March to the end of October is an hour and a half one way. I would need at the very least 300 miles of range otherwise I would be stopping somewhere most days to plug it in. Then comes break and lunch time. You're sweating your **** off working finally get to take a break you go to your ev and want some ac but you can't because you have to save your battery so you can make it home without stopping to charge it.

On all the jobsites I've been too I have never once heard a guy say he wishes he had an ev. From the peons to the superintendents. Of course for the peons hybrid or a good gas mileage beater I've heard countless times and the same reason I keep my 2 door 35-39mpg pontiac. All the tools you would use that could be powered by an ev are already cordless. The higher powered tools you pretty much need a generator to run them. I've given the boss crap before saying he's just waiting til they make an ev with enough payload so he can trade in his 1 ton and move the generator/welder that's currently in his bed to the ev then he won't have to stop and plug it in.

I know there's a lot of different types of "construction" but doing bridge work. An ev would not fly at all.
 

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