Synthetic Oil

Oil of Choice

  • Castrol Syntec/Edge

    Votes: 233 8.4%
  • Royal Purple

    Votes: 325 11.7%
  • AMSOil

    Votes: 396 14.3%
  • Valvoline Synpower

    Votes: 160 5.8%
  • Mobil 1

    Votes: 992 35.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 660 23.9%

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HK1837

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I think the big brand stuff is the same here as can be bought in the USA or Europe. The big difference here is the summer temperatures. We have had cooler summers over the past two seasons due to the La Nina weather cycle but it can get to over 47degC (117F) especially inland and north. I remember Summer 2019, I was driving south from where I am just 160kM north of Sydney to Adelaide down in South Australia. The dash on my Toyota was showing 45degC with bushfires everywhere. You need a decent oil with ambient temps like that. Toyota recommended 10W-30 for general use, but I always ran 10W-40 Nulon. Those 4.0L V6 don't need a heap of Moly though. I could try the 5W-30 Nulon Apex+ with Lubegard added. It is currently on special for about $US30 for 6L. It is MS-6395 rated.

 

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Wild horses couldn't drag it out of me!
To be serious, Amazon and eBay mostly. I sure hope this stuff has good shelf life, cuz I've got RL 0w20, 0w30, 5w20, 5w30, and now a case of 5w40 all on hand (thanks Burla!) If I play chemist and mix these together, I sure hope it doesn't start a fire or somethin'!
 

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To be serious, Amazon and eBay mostly. I sure hope this stuff has good shelf life, cuz I've got RL 0w20, 0w30, 5w20, 5w30, and now a case of 5w40 all on hand (thanks Burla!) If I play chemist and mix these together, I sure hope it doesn't start a fire or somethin'!
@Burla can you post what Dave said about shelf life?
 

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@Burla can you post what Dave said about shelf life?
no shelf life limit on redline per dave. However, I do wonder if he meant professional series as well, if so that is completely suspect. I have used 15 year old redline and you can see any difference but a tad more white additive fallout on bottom of container. If your redline is very old before putting it in truck, I would drop the container in some warm water and shake, especially guys in snow areas. Mineral oils spoil, I have smelt that stuff more then once, this doesnt happen with redline hp.

Royal Purple filters, I have zero doubt the media will outlive any human from the incidental test I did in the wife's truck, how cool was that for the knowledge on this? However, they don't have stainless cap material, so lifespan on a rp filter will largely be how it is stored to avoid rust and keep o ring from drying out. I am year 5-6 on over 20 rp filters and have pulled them to inspect 3 mos ago, all is well, I store in home closet with magic lube on oring. If I lived in humid area I would take additional measures, maybe store in an insulated box.
 

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no shelf life limit on redline per dave. However, I do wonder if he meant professional series as well, if so that is completely suspect. I have used 15 year old redline and you can see any difference but a tad more white additive fallout on bottom of container. If your redline is very old before putting it in truck, I would drop the container in some warm water and shake, especially guys in snow areas. Mineral oils spoil, I have smelt that stuff more then once, this doesnt happen with redline hp.

Royal Purple filters, I have zero doubt the media will outlive any human from the incidental test I did in the wife's truck, how cool was that for the knowledge on this? However, they don't have stainless cap material, so lifespan on a rp filter will largely be how it is stored to avoid rust and keep o ring from drying out. I am year 5-6 on over 20 rp filters and have pulled them to inspect 3 mos ago, all is well, I store in home closet with magic lube on oring. If I lived in humid area I would take additional measures, maybe store in an insulated box.
I have mine marked what date I bought it and I use the oldest bottles first. The older ones do have a slightly cloudiness to them but it doesn't seem to take away from the performance of the oil.
 

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I been reading way too many of these threads about the tick. I actually had a dream last night that I popped my hood to listen to the engine and it was ticking real bad (but only on the driver's side)- It was so distressing that it actually woke me up! Am I glad it was only a dream...I hope...
I find myself wishing that it was only a dream for me. Sadly for some of us, it is a reality.
Currently doing a rebuild and then will run Redline because it is the best.

Watching a video on a modded 5.7 HEMI..
I wonder what oil they're using.. LOL.
 

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Maybe a good opportunity to put High Performance Lubricants to the test?
David from High Performance Lubricants was offering to send me some oil. I just have to pay for the freight.
I said that I already bought RL to use after the rebuild. I may take him up on the offer later on.
 

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David from High Performance Lubricants was offering to send me some oil. I just have to pay for the freight.
I said that I already bought RL to use after the rebuild. I may take him up on the offer later on.
Hes an awesome guy aint he? Take him up on that offer!
 

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Hes an awesome guy aint he? Take him up on that offer!
That he is.. I will certainly take him up on that offer. Its just that I bought RL oil already to be used after the lifters are changed and rebuild is done.
Looking at the specs, very close to Redline 5W30... if the moly and zddm ppm is about the same or better than Redline, I guess we have a winner for a Redline alternative. Sadly, this version of HPL isn't readily available here in Dubai. I would be looking to get some Redline 5w40 shipped over and may take David up on the offer while I'm at it.
 

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That he is.. I will certainly take him up on that offer. Its just that I bought RL oil already to be used after the lifters are changed and rebuild is done.
Looking at the specs, very close to Redline 5W30... if the moly and zddm ppm is about the same or better than Redline, I guess we have a winner for a Redline alternative. Sadly, this version of HPL isn't readily available here in Dubai. I would be looking to get some Redline 5w40 shipped over and may take David up on the offer while I'm at it.
Zddp is less but moly is quite a bit more
 

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David from High Performance Lubricants was offering to send me some oil. I just have to pay for the freight.
I said that I already bought RL to use after the rebuild. I may take him up on the offer later on.

Man I'd have said "here's my visa" before he even got half the words out of his mouth. That's a great deal. Even if you use it for your next oil change and can compare it to how RL works in your truck.
 

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For reference:

I'll paypal you your first $25 if you want to try HPL Euro 5w-30 next. Maybe someone else here would be willing to help fund a test too.

Your truck should be bought by the ram forum for scientific testing. It's literally perfect. Hey hemi, how do you like these apples? Yes? No? Ok lets try the next one.
 

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What is everyone's thoughts on the current (SP) formulations of Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 vs. Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 for use in the 5.7L HEMI?

I've used both PP and PUP 5W-30 interchangeably for the better part of the last decade in my Toyota engines, with good results. While researching the ideal oil for my new-to-me 5.7L HEMI (2008 w/MDS, no VVT), I stumbled across the below Project Farm YouTube video (including VOA results) comparing Pennzoil's 5W-30 lineup consisting of Synthetic Blend, Synthetic, Platinum, & Ultra Platinum:


The marked difference in anti-wear additives and cold flow performance between Platinum and Ultra Platinum caught me off-guard. On the surface it almost looks like Pennzoil Synthetic beats Pennzoil Platinum in a handful of metrics.

Used to be that PUP was only $3-4 more per 5-quart jug than was PP, but it looks like PUP has skyrocketed in price since I last looked ($45/5 quarts!).
 
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I'll paypal you your first $25 if you want to try HPL Euro 5w-30 next. Maybe someone else here would be willing to help fund a test too.

Your truck should be bought by the ram forum for scientific testing. It's literally perfect. Hey hemi, how do you like these apples? Yes? No? Ok lets try the next one.
Hpl euro 5w30 would be a good one for @Hemi395 to try or supercar 5w40. Or we could put the moly vs ester debate to bed and @Hemi395 could come get some delvac 1 5w40 from 2003 in there from da up. Base oil is 75% pao 25% ester and no moly. 150 boron, 1500 zinc and 1300 phosphorus and a 12 tbn!!!
 
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