Settlement Offer From Chrysler For CP4.2 Fuel Pump Debacle

Goose55 · Mar 12, 2023

So far, Chrysler has offered me $7,000 for my loss of intended use of my 2019 3500 HO Dually, because of the faulty Bosch CP4.2 fuel pump. Loss of use at least with regard to towing a heavy 5th wheel. Bought mine in January 2020, at the time when the matter was well known, yet no one ever said anything to me about it. I had to find out on my own. Since then I have babied the truck, using lots of Lucas Cetane Power Booster for extra lubrication, and never towing. So, this is deemed to be the loss I suffered. For fear of the truck without warning, shutting down on a congested freeway, my 5th wheel sitting in the Desert sun deteriorating, and depreciating for 3 years.

GTyankee · Mar 13, 2023

If the 2019 3500 HO Dually was bought for use for Hotshot trucking, $7,000 does not even cover your insurance

plus Hot Shot Trucking pays $1.50 - $2.00 per mile, or it did a year ago

Goose55 · Mar 13, 2023

GTyankee said:
If the 2019 3500 HO Dually was bought for use for Hotshot trucking, $7,000 does not even cover your insurance

plus Hot Shot Trucking pays $1.50 - $2.00 per mile, or it did a year ago

? Hotshot trucking?

nlambert182 · Mar 13, 2023

You'd be surprised at how many sales people don't know about an issue until you tell them. I'm not saying they didn't know, but I wouldn't assume that they knew enough about this to tell you when you bought the truck. Most sales people just want to move vehicles. It doesn't get a whole lot deeper with them. I do all my own research in advance and have often times surprised the sales people when I bring up an issue.

My 2018 had a delaminating UConnect screen when I test drove it. The dealership didn't know this was a thing, but I did and was able to get them to replace the radio before I took delivery.

As for the camper, they depreciate anyhow whether you tow it or let it sit. While I get not wanting to tow it every day(which you really could, at least once if you needed to move it) couldn't you still use it and get enjoyment from it?

$7k seems pretty fair. Ford wouldn't even compensate us for the June-December timeframe where our Expedition sat on a lift with the transmission disassembled. I finally got them to make 2 payments ($1,400 total) but then they decreased the amount of rental car coverage that they reimbursed us, so it was a wash. FCA can't control Bosch... so if Bosch is suffering from supply chain issues it will trickle down to the customer level eventually. It completely stinks and I feel for you... but I'm not sure what you're looking for above and beyond what they've done.

If you want to move to another truck, why not discuss a buy back with them? If there's nothing wrong with it currently and it hasn't been sitting in a shop unusable, the likelihood of them agreeing to it is slim but maybe it's an option.

GTyankee · Mar 13, 2023

Goose55,

Hot Shot Trucking is a way Heavy Duty truck owners, use their trucks to make money by delivering products to companies that need it faster than they could get it through the normal supply chain.

Hotshots are generally Class 3, 4 or 5 trucks pulling a flatbed or other type of trailer for extra capacity. They're often delivering an item needed to prevent a failure, such as in the power grid, in a factory or plant, or a pump in an oil field. They also often tow cars, equipment, machinery, boats and even RVs.

This Hot Shot driver is on something, but he is being honest

$10,000 in a Week - Hotshot Trucking

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Goose55 · Mar 14, 2023

GTyankee said:
Goose55,

Hot Shot Trucking is a way Heavy Duty truck owners, use their trucks to make money by delivering products to companies that need it faster than they could get it through the normal supply chain.

Hotshots are generally Class 3, 4 or 5 trucks pulling a flatbed or other type of trailer for extra capacity. They're often delivering an item needed to prevent a failure, such as in the power grid, in a factory or plant, or a pump in an oil field. They also often tow cars, equipment, machinery, boats and even RVs.

This Hot Shot driver is on something, but he is being honest

$10,000 in a Week - Hotshot Trucking

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Interesting. I watched that vid. He showed how there was a A LOT of overhead--and hard work--to be paid $10K in those nine days. $2,000 for dispatch, alone (must be pretty exclusive logistics dispatching). Can't imagine how many hours per day. Of the $10K, he only pocketed $5K--and what about the depreciation of that truck? He's going to have to replace it someday. 60-70 hours of driving,..I'm guessing he made only about $65 to $75 and hour

He sure has gotten a lot of use out of that Ram Cummins. I can see how that this type of trucking fills a niche.

Maybe I will, nonetheless, look into it. As a way to, once in a while get out of the summer heat of SW Arizona. I'd only do it if I could pick up a return load near where I am delivering. I'd rent the flatbed, tarps, etc instead of buying.

stevenP · Mar 14, 2023

I would take the money and run. I am surprised they even offered anything.

Dennis Shellito · Mar 14, 2023

If FCA finds out you are hot shotting with your truck (commercial use) they can and will deny warranty coverage.

18CrewDually · Mar 14, 2023

stevenP said:
I would take the money and run. I am surprised they even offered anything.

I agree and really don't see why they would owe anything. It didn't fail, did it? You chose to park it in working order out of fear of a failure, correct?
If you're trading it in and using the $7k towards the new truck then I see what's really going on here. They'll make up that $7k somewhere else in the deal.

Fuel35 67 · Mar 14, 2023

Volkswagen’s didn’t fail either, yet people got a bunch of money back from them and crappy fuel mileage after the fix…pun intended.

18CrewDually · Mar 14, 2023

Fuel35 67 said:
Volkswagen’s didn’t fail either, yet people got a bunch of money back from them and crappy fuel mileage after the fix…pun intended.

Totally different government involvement case. No relation to this.

Fuel35 67 · Mar 15, 2023

I’m was being funny and I know sarcasm is hard to see on the WWW.

Goose55 · Mar 18, 2023

stevenP said:
I would take the money and run. I am surprised they even offered anything.

They didn't "offer" anything. I used my retirement legal insurance benefit to set a lawyer loose on them. That is how I got them to divvy up $7,000.

Goose55 · Mar 18, 2023

18CrewDually said:
I agree and really don't see why they would owe anything. It didn't fail, did it? You chose to park it in working order out of fear of a failure, correct?
If you're trading it in and using the $7k towards the new truck then I see what's really going on here. They'll make up that $7k somewhere else in the deal.

You see what's really going on here? What is that you see?

JNelson · Apr 7, 2023

Dennis Shellito said:
If FCA finds out you are hot shotting with your truck (commercial use) they can and will deny warranty coverage.

That’s pure BS right there.

Goose55 · Apr 9, 2023

Dennis Shellito said:
If FCA finds out you are hot shotting with your truck (commercial use) they can and will deny warranty coverage.

What? A 3500 is registered as a commercial vehicle in Arizona.

GTyankee · Apr 9, 2023

In California, a truck is normally a Commercial Vehicle.
It can be registered as a motor home, but don't drive it without a camper on it

If you have an El Camino, Ranchero, or similar vehicle, it can be registered as a car, But Do not get caught with anything in the bed, not even fishing equipment, or a bale of Hay

18CrewDually · Apr 9, 2023

You can register a Hyundai Sonata as commercial. Doesn't mean it is built and expected to hold up to commercial (and/or fleet) use (abuse).
Your typical commercial rated trucks are the cab & chassis trucks and are built and tuned accordingly. That's why commercial trucks are "detuned" and are usually rated at a lower HP rating. They are designed and built for commercial work. It has been that way for a long time atleast for Rams and F-series diesels.

If your State makes you register it commercial, that's them just digging into your pocket because the heavier truck is more wear and tear on the roads so they penalize you. The State isn't honoring a Factory Manufacture Warranty.

Goose55 · Apr 9, 2023

JNelson said:
That’s pure BS right there.

Yup, it is.

Goose55 · Apr 9, 2023

18CrewDually said:
You can register a Hyundai Sonata as commercial. Doesn't mean it is built and expected to hold up to commercial (and/or fleet) use (abuse).
Your typical commercial rated trucks are the cab & chassis trucks and are built and tuned accordingly. That's why commercial trucks are "detuned" and are usually rated at a lower HP rating. They are designed and built for commercial work. It has been that way for a long time atleast for Rams and F-series diesels.

If your State makes you register it commercial, that's them just digging into your pocket because the heavier truck is more wear and tear on the roads so they penalize you. The State isn't honoring a Factory Manufacture Warranty.

You think hot shotting is any more severe than pulling a 35,000 pound 5th wheel, year round? You sayin' that FCA won't honor a warranty if the truck has pulled a 5th wheel?

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