Theft is on the rise

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Zoe Saldana

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Brother a faraday box is useless, they are breaking in and copying a key right through the obd port.

The IGLA Anti-Theft is that best system out there.

it blocks the obd port and doesnt allow you to start the car unless you punch is a pin code by using the factory buttons on your steering wheel and the factory buttons on your dash.

once you do that the car will start.

heres two videos, 1st video shows you how it works and second will show you why phone notifications, Faraday boxes and GPS tracking are flawed.

1st : https://fb.watch/jiRJbySow7/
2nd: https://fb.watch/jiSfvnaFwT/

A simple mechanical kill switch is probably the best.
 
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A simple mechanical kill switch is probably the best.
switches can be easily found in the car, you cant find the IGLA. Not just that, you just punch in the button combination and thats it much easier then bending over, popping the hood just to turn on the kill switch then turning it back off when your done. The IGLA is far more superior then all other measures.
 

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switches can be easily found in the car, you cant find the IGLA. Not just that, you just punch in the button combination and thats it much easier then bending over, popping the hood just to turn on the kill switch then turning it back off when your done. The IGLA is far more superior then all other measures.
6.7 cummins. Hide the kill switch in the cab somewhere.
 

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i wouldn't be terribly heartbroken if i had to get a new truck if mine got stolen.i wouldn't want it back,that's for sure.never know what the scumbags did to it.i have a steering wheel club but i haven't used it in years.i don't even know where the keys to it are.come to think of it,the truck is probably not even locked right now.i leave my keys in my side by side's ignition all the time.i want it to get stolen.all my boats have the keys in the ignition.i got really tired of walking from the dock back up to the house just for the damn keys or to get the proper one.6 boats is a lot of different keys.
 

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switches can be easily found in the car, you cant find the IGLA. Not just that, you just punch in the button combination and thats it much easier then bending over, popping the hood just to turn on the kill switch then turning it back off when your done. The IGLA is far more superior then all other measures.

Yea, no ... you put the kill switch inside the car. It can easily be hidden.

You can do it with the starter, fuel pump and other things. I did mine with the Fob moduel on the dash - forgot the proper name.

Youtube - Chriss Fix has an example.

I did mine for $11.00
 

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Yeesh, somebody on another forum I'm on just had his Ram stolen. Now I find out that they are a prime theft target. A Club might be low-tech and it might be easy to cut through the steering wheel, but if it's another step for them it might discourage them, especially if they only came equipped with their OBD or key fob hacking electronics. Wondering if I should figure out where some important relays (starter, fuel pump) are located and pull them if I have to leave it parked where it might get stolen.
 

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This is nuts. Hackable OBD port? Is Ram the only vehicle with unsecured OBD?

It's hard to believe a vehicle manufacturer could be this stupid with all the electronic gizmos and software on these things.

So the bandaid is to retrofit the OBD with an aftermarket dongle key, requiring a passcode every time to start the vehicle? How is this more convenient than a passive key chip?

Unbelievable. Ever more software to defeat ever more software is subtracting value for consumers and only employing ever more useless software coders.
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Yeesh, somebody on another forum I'm on just had his Ram stolen. Now I find out that they are a prime theft target. A Club might be low-tech and it might be easy to cut through the steering wheel, but if it's another step for them it might discourage them, especially if they only came equipped with their OBD or key fob hacking electronics. Wondering if I should figure out where some important relays (starter, fuel pump) are located and pull them if I have to leave it parked where it might get stolen.

That would be a pain. There is a way to add a cut off switch to the fuse.

You are correct - thieves don't want to be in the truck looking for a way to start it.
 

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Just saw this post. A week at 1:30 in the morning I wake up to my dog barking facing towards the front of the house I peek out the blinds to see a suv in my driveway by the time I get out the door they were gone. My wife and I both have Ram 1500s.
 

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Just saw this post. A week at 1:30 in the morning I wake up to my dog barking facing towards the front of the house I peek out the blinds to see a suv in my driveway by the time I get out the door they were gone. My wife and I both have Ram 1500s.
They were gone with one of your trucks, or just left because of you??
 

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According to this article Dodges are on the low end of the theft scale,with Challengers/Chargers being less then 2/10's of 1% of stolen vehicles.

 

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According to this article Dodges are on the low end of the theft scale,with Challengers/Chargers being less then 2/10's of 1% of stolen vehicles.


This is a good find, thanks for reporting. :cool:

The article is dated 8/12/21 and the comments section below tells an enlightening story.
Also, keep in mind, for the options mentioned in the article, as of that date, only 1 was applicable to "any model of Dodge" or our Ram trucks.
The 'Electronic Vehicle Tracking System' or EVTS.

These new updated security features may sound useful but from reading the comments, this clearly sounds like another FCA corporate lip-service scam.

This is the first comment of many that sound almost identical;

3/11/23 11:00pm
I’m really starting to believe dodge owners are being played with this “update” not a single dealer in the metro Detroit area knows about this update. They looked up my vin about 10 times, that’s how many dealers I’ve called.

So here is what I’m doing next week, I’ll be contacting the Michigan AG office about this because another false hood is that dodge claims that they make up just a fraction of auto thefts in the country when i took a ride down some of these side streets in Detroit. I saw a stripped down wagoneer, dodge Durango on blocks, a challenger body laying in the street and that was just on the first street.

So if this update really does exist then the dealers need to be educated on this TSB because people are fed up with it.

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This is a good find, thanks for reporting. :cool:

The article is dated 8/12/21 and everyone should read the comments section below.

These new updated security features may sound useful but from reading the comments, this clearly sounds like another FCA corporate lip-service scam.

This is the first comment of many that sound almost identical;

3/11/23 11:00pm
I’m really starting to believe dodge owners are being played with this “update” not a single dealer in the metro Detroit area knows about this update. They looked up my vin about 10 times, that’s how many dealers I’ve called.

So here is what I’m doing next week, I’ll be contacting the Michigan AG office about this because another false hood is that dodge claims that they make up just a fraction of auto thefts in the country when i took a ride down some of these side streets in Detroit. I saw a stripped down wagoneer, dodge Durango on blocks, a challenger body laying in the street and that was just on the first street.

So if this update really does exist then the dealers need to be educated on this TSB because people are fed up with it.

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The comments on it weren't really flattering,lol.
 

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Hi all, Found something on the website I'm going to try on my 2500 6.7. Seems to work on Ram TRX's where they're building a wiring harness and plugging it into the back of the start push button which then goes to a kill switch you hide where ever you want. I've ordered all the connectors/pins so no wires get cut either. Will update when it comes in late this coming week. Looked pretty straight forward. Result is that you can remote start your truck still, but when you push the push button start it doesn't do anything until you flip your hidden kill switch and then all functions normal.

So even if they break into the truck, create their own FOB key or us repeater of your FOB from inside the house, truck won't start until you flip the hidden kill switch.
 

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Hi all, Found something on the website I'm going to try on my 2500 6.7. Seems to work on Ram TRX's where they're building a wiring harness and plugging it into the back of the start push button which then goes to a kill switch you hide where ever you want. I've ordered all the connectors/pins so no wires get cut either. Will update when it comes in late this coming week. Looked pretty straight forward. Result is that you can remote start your truck still, but when you push the push button start it doesn't do anything until you flip your hidden kill switch and then all functions normal.

So even if they break into the truck, create their own FOB key or us repeater of your FOB from inside the house, truck won't start until you flip the hidden kill switch.
Link?
 

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Hi all, Found something on the website I'm going to try on my 2500 6.7. Seems to work on Ram TRX's where they're building a wiring harness and plugging it into the back of the start push button which then goes to a kill switch you hide where ever you want. I've ordered all the connectors/pins so no wires get cut either. Will update when it comes in late this coming week. Looked pretty straight forward. Result is that you can remote start your truck still, but when you push the push button start it doesn't do anything until you flip your hidden kill switch and then all functions normal.

So even if they break into the truck, create their own FOB key or us repeater of your FOB from inside the house, truck won't start until you flip the hidden kill switch.

As much as I hate chopping up the factory wiring, what is the cost for this connectorized solution?

I've been contemplating cutting into the 12-volt wire behind the start switch and installing a remote jumper plug of sorts. The switch sounds like a cool idea but may or may not be easy enough to trace and bypass.

I'm thinking of using a 3.5mm jack instead of a switch or something more unique. Even if a thief finds the jack-hole somewhere on the dash, there's not much they can do without a properly configured plug.

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Hi all, Found something on the website I'm going to try on my 2500 6.7. Seems to work on Ram TRX's where they're building a wiring harness and plugging it into the back of the start push button which then goes to a kill switch you hide where ever you want. I've ordered all the connectors/pins so no wires get cut either. Will update when it comes in late this coming week. Looked pretty straight forward. Result is that you can remote start your truck still, but when you push the push button start it doesn't do anything until you flip your hidden kill switch and then all functions normal.

So even if they break into the truck, create their own FOB key or us repeater of your FOB from inside the house, truck won't start until you flip the hidden kill switch.
The hidden kill switch if it's done on the red wire,should shut the truck off as soon as you step on the brake pedal with it off,and if you try to restart it,with the switch off,it should set off the alarm,at least it does on all 3 of my FCA vehicles with a hidden kill switch.But the newest vehicle i own is the wifes 2019 Challenger,but i wouldn't think the 5th gens would be much differant
 

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I guess I will just be thankful to be in a place where theft is pretty darn tough. My truck (and my wife's Explorer, my Porsche and tractor) is/are all normally parked in a locked garage when not in use. Highway vehicles are parked in our business parking lot with cameras. The only other option for theft comes when parked at local businesses or while on short term trips. Maybe if I had a 1/4 million dollar+ collector edition I'd be more concerned. But not a single of our vehicles could not be easily replaced with the right money at the right time.
 
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