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ramffml · Apr 20, 2023

HEMIMANN said:
Wood is a truly renewable resource - the perfect natural carbon / oxygen cycle.
Corn is not - fossil fuels are needed to grow it, fertilize it, harvest it, cook it into ethanol. It needs to be used for its intent - food.

Let's face it - we've overpopulated ourselves, and mother nature is thinning our herd the hard way. Solar, wind, nukes, methane. However many of us they can support is our population limit.

For the population problem; that's already being taken care of. All first world countries have a < 2.1 % population growth which is the minimum required to sustain population never mind grow.

USA and Canada for example, we have a growing population only due to "imports" (lol). As a country gets richer and richer, the amount of kids born becomes less and less. We'll probably hit peak population within a decade or two and at that point the problem will switch to "we don't have enough kids to take care of the old folk and keep the economy going".

Burla · Apr 20, 2023

Homesteads or living near a beech in a warm place looks like a good plan for young folk. Lets face it fellas, it was good to be alive when it was our time driving our rams all around w/o a care in the world. With my back I am so glad to not need to ride a horse for traveling.

HEMIMANN · Apr 20, 2023

Well, the hoards ain't exactly beating down the bushes to plunk down here onto the Siberia of the Americas, so there's that.

We got plenty of oaks for firewood and soybeans for diesel oil, 'cepting ya gotta heat that fatty ooze in winter to flow it.

grizzstang · Apr 20, 2023

Carbon was never the problem.

It is all the other crappy things we do to the planet. Too many people, too much garbage, burying nuclear waste in the ground, letting it escape into the atmosphere and leaking it into the ocean, burning down the Amazon etc. Taxing Carbon is a multi-billion dollar money machine and wealth transfer system.

Burla · Apr 20, 2023

Remember when key fobs came out, yeah makes vehicles impossible to steal, lol. Or make it easier?

dodge vehilces getting stolen with generic key fobs

KenR 955 · Apr 20, 2023

Burla said:
Remember when key fobs came out, yeah makes vehicles impossible to steal, lol. Or make it easier?

dodge vehilces getting stolen with generic key fobs

Why would you have to remove the windshield to steal a truck? What am I missing?

Burla · Apr 20, 2023

KenR 955 said:
Why would you have to remove the windshield to steal a truck? What am I missing?

this I do not know, I expect they need to gain entrance and use the obd2 port to use the fob. But yeah, windshield sounds like a whack way to skin that cat. Maybe that also rendered any anti theft useless if they can start the vehicle before opening any door?

HEMIMANN · Apr 20, 2023

They've been using the door seal airflator wedge to access door locks. These used to be only for locksmiths, now you can get on Amazon. Once inside, the stupid unsecured OBDII is easily used to start.

This is why remote hacking using FOB relays isn't sufficient to prevent with Farady FOB bags. I got a couple anyway, but the unsecured OBDII port is the weak link.

Stupidly beyond belief. This is what happens when there's no experienced engineer overseeing out of control coder bro's.

mdc1990zr1 · Apr 20, 2023

grizzstang said:
Carbon was never the problem.

It is all the other crappy things we do to the planet. Too many people, too much garbage, burying nuclear waste in the ground, letting it escape into the atmosphere and leaking it into the ocean, burning down the Amazon etc. Taxing Carbon is a multi-billion dollar money machine and wealth transfer system.

Took my daughter to Dunkin Donuts for a bagel with strawberry spread. Out comes an individually portioned spread in the plastic container with tin foil on top. Just think, 100 bagels with this spread puts 100 plastic containers in the landfill (no its not recycled at a business). If it accidently gets incinerated, all those hydrocarbons in the atmosphere. The responsible thing to do would be to use a biodegradable container that contained enough spread for 100 bagels. Now, just think of what this pandemic has done to put all these plastics into landfills. Everything has been in take-out containers that are mostly plastics. Now look at all the shots we are pushed into getting. They are all plastic syringes, packaging and needle protectors. We are dumping on and depleting mother earth faster going forward that in the past. This battery crap for the EV market will only hurt the earth even more. Our politicians work for themselves, not us. Oh, what do you think this Space-ex mishap did to our atmosphere today?

HK1837 · Apr 21, 2023

Burla said:
google anyone of the metals used and reserves and see for yourself. Examples, cobalt- According to the US Geological Survey (USGS), total cobalt reserves worldwide stand at an estimated 7.1 million tonnes, with 140,000 tonnes produced globally in 2020, so at current demand that is 50 years, but now consider only 1% of USA is EV, if indeed americans started buying EV's that would be ten years at best? Mind you this only takes into account current demands, as the demand increases, these metals will be gone much sooner.

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That is current battery tech. You won't need Cobalt in the next few generations of battery. Tesla is working on Cobalt free batteries for PowerWall 3 right now. Once we start using Graphite/Graphene and better tech then batteries will be heaps better. I personally don't want an EV until batteries improve enough though. The challenges are more likely to be Copper and Nickel production and maybe Tin as well.

Burla · Apr 21, 2023

None of those reserve estimates account for what if we actually had widespread EV production where every car just in this country was replaced with an EV. Now, imagine replacing every vehicle in the world with EV, you don't even have enough reserves of any of those metals for one single year of that. You wont even make year one, and if you tried, all of those metals which are needed to store energy will be used up in transportation and not other power storage needs. The math aint there, EV is not our future, it is a crutch at best. Since it seams we are headed down this road anyway regardless what anyone says, or any fact suggesting this dog wont hunt, we are spending every available penny for a dog that isnt bringing in the bird. Yeah yeah, they been working on it so it will happen soon, well they have alchemy since the day they found gold and that is a pipe dream. You know something real scary, they will run out of iron by 2070, lol? It is a bad joke we are headed down the dead end path instead of actually solving stuff for the next 100 years.

Burla · Apr 21, 2023

seams like graphite shortages are already here, and we are 1% EV?

Think EV's are our future? I have a dog for sale, great hunter that mutt I tell you. He have a gland issue that's all, he hunt for real real.

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HEMIMANN · Apr 21, 2023

We're kind of morphing the thread into the electric Ram thread, but I guess not needing synthetic lubes, or any lubes for that matter, is somewhat related, so I'll leave this article here. Lithium Ion battery manufacture is so process sensitive that only a vigilant quality company can do it without risk of internal electric short circuit and solid chemical fire. Notably, Ford and GM went 1st to a cheap Korean firm and burned some of their 1st EV's to the ground. Fire extremely difficult to extinguish, and can reignite.

Remember the cell phone fires? The 1st Boeing aircraft to use Li-Ion batteries caught fire (787). Yeah this 'conversion' is going just great

Ford F-150 Lightning fire footage highlights a growing EV risk

Fires involving EV batteries can burn hotter and longer and require new techniques to extinguish, posing a growing challenge to first responders.

www.cnbc.com

Burla · Apr 21, 2023

HEMIMANN said:
We're kind of morphing the thread into the electric Ram thread, but I guess not needing synthetic lubes, or any lubes for that matter, is somewhat related, so I'll leave this article here. Lithium Ion battery manufacture is so process sensitive that only a vigilant quality company can do it without risk of internal electric short circuit and solid chemical fire. Notably, Ford and GM went 1st to a cheap Korean firm and burned some of their 1st EV's to the ground. Fire extremely difficult to extinguish, and can reignite.

Remember the cell phone fires? The 1st Boeing aircraft to use Li-Ion batteries caught fire (787). Yeah this 'conversion' is going just great

Ford F-150 Lightning fire footage highlights a growing EV risk

Fires involving EV batteries can burn hotter and longer and require new techniques to extinguish, posing a growing challenge to first responders.

www.cnbc.com

I know there are significant differences in what it takes to propel a truck over a light pruis type car, but the other thing we seam to be missing is battery replacement costs, as we see when an EV vehicle falls out of production the battery price triples and then some. And yes this discussion is appropriate here as the stated goal of ram mother company is to be all electric at some point and be electric across "all brands". The way I see it, if you have the dough like some folk do, why not dance with that sexy EV? But if you live week to week and work hard for that dough, avoid booking passage on that sinking ship. The "average" EV battery lifespan is 200,000 miles, and when you hit it there is a significant chance the battery replacement cost with out value the asset. So proceed with caution EV buyers beware.

Burla · Apr 21, 2023

The good news, yes there is some, pruis's are proven to be great cars and battery replacement costs are cheap. i have a friend, she gets great mileage from that car. When the wife wants a new car, I wont hate it if we replace our 30mpg rav 4 with a 50mpg pruis, but I'd prefer another rav 4, whatever it is it wont be my call, bot are about the same price under 30 g's. The battery warranty actually increased recently, makes it a decent choice for a vehicle for the "wife".

HEMIMANN · Apr 21, 2023

I also read somewhere the lithium is difficult to extract and recycle from Li-Ion batteries, it's ******* in some kind of weird metal matrix. I'm still trying to get my laptop fixed, so not gonna thumb anymore than I have to on the smartphone and research this again.
If accurate, the tech bro's and mindless media loudmouths have sold the public a real bill of goods.

Contrast with how simple it is to clean and reuse the lead plates and acid from lead-acid batteries.

Oy! I guess old man rants have some validity in reality.

HEMIMANN · Apr 21, 2023

Burla said:
The good news, yes there is some, pruis's are proven to be great cars and battery replacement costs are cheap. i have a friend, she gets great mileage from that car. When the wife wants a new car, I wont hate it if we replace our 30mpg rav 4 with a 50mpg pruis, but I'd prefer another rav 4, whatever it is it wont be my call, bot are about the same price under 30 g's. The battery warranty actually increased recently, makes it a decent choice for a vehicle for the "wife".

Are those hybrid car batteries lithium ion?

Burla · Apr 21, 2023

HEMIMANN said:
Are those hybrid car batteries lithium ion?

depends on the trim some are and some are MiMH.

HEMIMANN · Apr 21, 2023

Interesting. I wasn't aware NiMH was a battery. Thought it was only used for fusion bombs.

I do remember NiCad was supplanted by Li-Ion for longer life and no toxic cadmium. But Li-Ion can't take a deep discharge like Ni-Cad can.

Who knew physics still rules?

Burla · Apr 21, 2023

everything you need to know pruis batteries.

one paragraph..

What Type of Hybrid Battery is in The Toyota Prius?

The huge debate about whether the Toyota Prius comes with a NiMH battery or a Li-ion battery is among the most hotly debated topics among hybrid vehicle owners. The confusion lies in the fact that some Prius models use nickel-metal-hydride batteries. In contrast, others come with lithium-ion batteries in addition to the 12V battery used for powering the vehicle’s electronics.
NiMH batteries were introduced in the 2009 Prius model, and these are primarily used for powering the electric motors that drive the car.
Lithium-ion batteries were first introduced in 2011 and continue to be used in newer Prius models and other hybrid vehicles. All the plug-in hybrids, including the Prius Prime, use lithium-ion batteries.
The main difference between these two types of batteries is that NiMH batteries are less expensive and require less maintenance. Still, they also have a shorter lifespan and reduced capacity over time. However, newer NiMH batteries can quickly handle power demands like lithium-ion batteries. This means they are suitable for hybrid vehicles, including the Toyota Prius.

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