phil frost
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So after reading through the closed down Bugout and war truck thread, I wanted to ask a question. Has anyone installed one of these in their truck or house? and do they really work?
EMP Shield
EMP Shield
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If your concerned about an EMP from a nuclear bomb then they won't do much and a failed electronics are the least of your worries.
You don't have to worry about much naturally occurring EMP happening within a vehicle electrical system, the battery does a good job of that.
For your house they're really expensive whole house surge protectors, you can buy the top rated whole house surge protectors with lightning arrestors for about half the cost.
Good advice for everyone, whole house surge protectors are a lot better than any plug in device you can buy.I have installed one on every house I’ve owned or customer I’ve done a retire/panel job
Again I can’t vouch for their effectiveness but have been a A card JW since 84 and may of made more doing siders for residential customers then working for contractors. My two houses have used this exact oneGood advice for everyone, whole house surge protectors are a lot better than any plug in device you can buy.
Again I can’t vouch for their effectiveness but have been a A card JW since 84 and may of made more doing siders for residential customers then working for contractors. My two houses have used this exact one
Well it’s international brotherhood of electrical workers A classification journeyman wireman,B is maintainance,C ,communication,only difference is A can do B and C at a reduced scale,unless pre negotiatedDan, what's an A card JW?
Is that like a special class of Jehovah's Witnesses?
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I’m really sorry about your grid problem,do you have N gas there’s real solutions,if not I would look into a battery backup system,I hate that idea but keeping up with propane when a good genny must run weekly sucking down your tank just to exercise.You beat me to it, I've just finished my morning tea.
I was going to suggest to the OP that he just shop for a good quality whole house powerline filter.
Depending on the quality of your Hydro, often related to whether you live in an urban or rural area, a powerline filter might be a good investment.
I know I should have one at my house but to date after 14 years, my losses haven't been too bad. The usual, short-lived light bulbs and a 240-volt AC timer for the water heater (was about $90 when purchased, years ago).
The problem is, the next spike could take out my ground source heatpump and the hydro companies up here aren't liable for anything. I'm not sure if my household insurance would cover the costs or just say, sorry, we're not responsible for hydro spikes or acts of God.
I live in a rural area and the power out here sucks. My last outage about 10 days ago lasted 44 hours. Then again, a friend of mine who lives in urban Ottawa was without power last year for 4 or 5 days.
What's happened to this world where there's zero accountability from municipal services and government blunders?
I’m really sorry about your grid problem,do you have N gas there’s real solutions,if not I would look into a battery backup system,I hate that idea but keeping up with propane when a good genny must run weekly sucking down your tank just to exercise.
Whole house surge protectors will protect you from conducted surges coming in on the line but they won't necessarily protect from induced spikes. Basically if a lightning strike hits a half mile away then anything coming in from the street will be protected by a whole house unit. If lightning hits a tree in the yard on the other side of the house from the breaker box it can induce spikes into the wires in your wall which the whole house surge protector won't protect you from. You should also have surge protector outlets or power strips throughout the house.Good advice for everyone, whole house surge protectors are a lot better than any plug in device you can buy.
Thoughts of that really happening makes me glad I’m high and dry,as opposed to being a half block from the des plaines river.Something I've thought about too. There's some other good EMP threads on the forum if you do a search. So much misinformation out there as I'm sure you've seen. In the end the biggest effects seem to be long electrical grid lines which can induce current. Cars & trucks have shown to be pretty resiliant. There've been tests. But too many factors to know for sure what an enemy EMP might look like or do to vehicles. Even your generator might be a choke-point (long coil of wire) depending on how close you are or it's electronics. Keep an early 70's point's truck/Jeep in the barn if you want a hedge.
Notice the Ruskie's didn't use them in Ukraine even though they claim to have EMPs and electronic's destroying weapons. Why not? Its a relatively small country. They're probably not as effective per the cost to deploy, as unemployed bedroom-youtube dooms-dayer's portray. If they were the answer, why didn't the Ruskies disable Ukraine's entire grid/cars/communications/cell phones/refrigerators/trains (infrastructure) ..and all the devices which 'supposedly' are at risk ...on day one with two simple EMP's? They could have just walked into the empty streets of Kiev while everyone was running in circles with no TV or communications? Or why not use them on day 10 when the invasion wasn't looking so rosy ..to gain an upper hand? Or even 6 months ago to knock out the enemy front line communications (often by cell phone)? Or last month? A couple EMP's MUST be a lot cheaper than shooting off hundreds or thousands of your precious guided missles, or losing tens of expensive jet fighters, or most of your tank and armored fleet, and/or tens of thousands of your best troops and their gear? If they were the quick and easy answer to a military take-over, or even battlefield victory, I think we would have seen a least a couple being used.
Even grid/computer/network/device viruses haven't kept Ukraine from functioning. All they've done is line many countries of the world up against Russ...
But hey .....still fun to think about. Doesn't hurt to plan for to, to a certain degree. I've got my worries too. It's always an instructive topic