2018 Limited 1500 battery issues.

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How much does it cost in your area?

Bet it's twice as much up here in Canadastan. :cool:

The last price I saw was $339.

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Yeah I was surprised it isn't more like around 400 USD
Maybe they outsourced some or all of it.
Can't trust anything anymore.
 

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Regardless of the battery chemistry used, my SLA is not happy with my SOP.

I often drive far too short a distance to offset the energy required for 2 starts and likely just leave it in a depleted state. We're experiencing a usual frosty period now with daytime highs of 10°F or less.

During the colder days of winter, the truck doesn't start as quickly as the summer months.

I just tossed a minder onto my battery early this afternoon in preparation for another impending short trip tonight. My NOCO 2D has yet to be installed in the engine bay.

I plan to get an H8 AGM sometime soon'ish.

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Yeah I was surprised it isn't more like around 400 USD
Maybe they outsourced some or all of it.
Can't trust anything anymore.

The $339 price was the cost at Costco in Canada.

Now it's $350 for an H8 Energizer AGM and I'll have to review the 100-month pro-rated warranty.
It used to be 5 years for a full replacement.


The H7 version is only $20 cheaper or $330.


The wording for the warranty is different than the H8. It says 5-year limited, 100-month pro-rated. Time to call a human and get verbal. :cool:

I believe they're well over $400 elsewhere, not $400 US$, Canadastan $.

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That's what was in my 2013 back in Feb 2020 when I replaced it, so that's what I replaced it with.

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So have you had any issues running that AGM?

I would hope there isn’t too many differences between your 2013 model and my 2018 but being that mine is newer, that’s why I’m kinda reluctant to try one.
 

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So have you had any issues running that AGM?

I would hope there isn’t too many differences between your 2013 model and my 2018 but being that mine is newer, that’s why I’m kinda reluctant to try one.

No issues whatsoever.

Other than the fact that its just about time to buy another one, but 5 years is a pretty good run for a battery.
 

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looks like almost all Car/Truck H7 batteries have a 36 month warranty

Based on current information, the "best" H7 battery warranty is typically considered to be a 3-year free replacement warranty offered by most major retailers like AutoZone (Duralast Gold), Walmart (EverStart Maxx), and Interstate Batteries, all providing a full replacement if your H7 battery fails within that time frame; this is usually considered a good balance of coverage and price point.

I remember someone on here mentioned that Walmart has a good Auto Battery reputation


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This is odd but, the H8 version of this battery is the same price as the H7 at Walmart.

That should be a no-brainer. Remove the spacer in the battery tray and install the H8.

Several threads and YouTube videos cover this installation process.


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Based on your description that when you leave the truck unused for a period of time the batter is dead.....you may have a ghost drain.....something in your truck is constantly putting a drain on the battery. This wouldn't necessarily be evident if you run it daily but if you don't may drain your battery when it is sitting idle. Things to think about....have you done any non oem upgrades....stereo or other accessories? If so incorrect installation may be draining your battery even when the truck is off. Trying to find a ghost drain is a pain.....involves testing each electrical wire going to the fuse box i believe...Check your ground wires and the cheapest and easiest option might be to keep your battery up to date and start/drive your truck more often. I'm not a mechanic by any means just forwarding others resolutions.....cue the haters :)
 
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Well guys, I just got off the phone with somebody from Optima batteries and they said that their yellow top AGM would be a good choice for my truck. They also said that as long as my charging system is between 13 point something and I think she said 15.5 V, that that would be OK and she also said that as long as the battery voltage never drops below I think 12.2 or like 12.3 V that I should be OK. Should I go for it or was the lady just trying to sell me a battery?
 
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Based on your description that when you leave the truck unused for a period of time the batter is dead.....you may have a ghost drain.....something in your truck is constantly putting a drain on the battery. This wouldn't necessarily be evident if you run it daily but if you don't may drain your battery when it is sitting idle. Things to think about....have you done any non oem upgrades....stereo or other accessories? If so incorrect installation may be draining your battery even when the truck is off. Trying to find a ghost drain is a pain.....involves testing each electrical wire going to the fuse box i believe...Check your ground wires and the cheapest and easiest option might be to keep your battery up to date and start/drive your truck more often. I'm not a mechanic by any means just forwarding others resolutions.....cue the haters :)
I kinda wondered about that, but it’s just very odd that even today, when it was about 15° outside from sitting overnight, I hit the remote start button and my truck fired right up like there was no problem and it’s weird that the only time where I’ve had problems was like what I talked about in my opening post Because it seems like as long as I don’t do that, I don’t have a problem. But still, one of these days I’m still gonna go down to Harbor freight and get me one of those battery testers but as it seems like right now, like I said, as long as I don’t do like what I did in those two instances I talked about my opening pose, I don’t have a problem with my battery.
 

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Well guys, I just got off the phone with somebody from Optima batteries and they said that their yellow top AGM would be a good choice for my truck. They also said that as long as my charging system is between 13 point something and I think she said 15.5 V, that that would be OK and she also said that as long as the battery voltage never drops below I think 12.2 or like 12.3 V that I should be OK. Should I go for it or was the lady just trying to sell me a battery?

First, 12.5 is the 50% voltage, should not go below.

Second, Optima quality went downhill years ago, before the others. Don't take my word for it - research. I would not buy an Optima. I would stick with Odyssey or X2, or if in CA, whatever that is that Rick got (we don't have in the States, I don't think).

Third, if your truck is newer than 2013, Rick says it should have a smart battery charger sensor (IBS), so you're ok with any.

I have an Odyssey H7. Rick was saying the H8 is better for these trucks with all their parasitic loads when off, esp. if you don't drive frequently (work from home, retired, whatever). In any case, a wall mount maintainer keeps the battery alive for as long as its quality allows. For Odyssey that's supposed to be 7 years. I went with a CTEK maintainer after researching. Not happy the Swedes outsourced manufacture to China, though. Then again, so is your iPhone. Has more / better charge segments than NOCO.

If you go with one that big, be careful - they weigh a ton. Even that H7 was a beetch to lift in with 2 guys. Next one I'll use the overhead hoist with battery tongs.
 

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I kinda wondered about that, but it’s just very odd that even today, when it was about 15° outside from sitting overnight, I hit the remote start button and my truck fired right up like there was no problem and it’s weird that the only time where I’ve had problems was like what I talked about in my opening post Because it seems like as long as I don’t do that, I don’t have a problem. But still, one of these days I’m still gonna go down to Harbor freight and get me one of those battery testers but as it seems like right now, like I said, as long as I don’t do like what I did in those two instances I talked about my opening pose, I don’t have a problem with my battery.
I've had batteries act like that a few times in the past. They would be dead and require a jumpstart, and then start the vehicle fine for weeks or months until another time where the battery was randomly dead. I've spent weeks trying to track down the issue thinking it was a loose or bad cable, bad starter, etc... In all of the cases I finally swapped in a new battery and the issue went away.
 
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First, 12.5 is the 50% voltage, should not go below.

Second, Optima quality went downhill years ago, before the others. Don't take my word for it - research. I would not buy an Optima. I would stick with Odyssey or X2, or if in CA, whatever that is that Rick got (we don't have in the States, I don't think).

Third, if your truck is newer than 2013, Rick says it should have a smart battery charger sensor (IBS), so you're ok with any.

I have an Odyssey H7. Rick was saying the H8 is better for these trucks with all their parasitic loads when off, esp. if you don't drive frequently (work from home, retired, whatever). In any case, a wall mount maintainer keeps the battery alive for as long as its quality allows. For Odyssey that's supposed to be 7 years. I went with a CTEK maintainer after researching. Not happy the Swedes outsourced manufacture to China, though. Then again, so is your iPhone. Has more / better charge segments than NOCO.

If you go with one that big, be careful - they weigh a ton. Even that H7 was a beetch to lift in with 2 guys. Next one I'll use the overhead hoist with battery tongs.
I looked up that Odyssey; haven’t looked up the X2 yet but what makes these two batteries better than say, the Duracell AGM that my Sam’s Club has or even the Walmart extreme AGM battery?
 

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I kinda wondered about that, but it’s just very odd that even today, when it was about 15° outside from sitting overnight, I hit the remote start button and my truck fired right up like there was no problem and it’s weird that the only time where I’ve had problems was like what I talked about in my opening post Because it seems like as long as I don’t do that, I don’t have a problem. But still, one of these days I’m still gonna go down to Harbor freight and get me one of those battery testers but as it seems like right now, like I said, as long as I don’t do like what I did in those two instances I talked about my opening pose, I don’t have a problem with my battery.
A bad cell will do that at times.1 time the battery seems dead,then you drive the vehicle,things get jostled around inside the battery,and the bad cell will come back to life for a bit,but usually it's only a matter of time before the battery bites you in the rear
 

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Well guys, I just got off the phone with somebody from Optima batteries and they said that their yellow top AGM would be a good choice for my truck. They also said that as long as my charging system is between 13 point something and I think she said 15.5 V, that that would be OK and she also said that as long as the battery voltage never drops below I think 12.2 or like 12.3 V that I should be OK. Should I go for it or was the lady just trying to sell me a battery?
I wouldn't worry about the trucks charging system keeping an AGM battery charged,and i'd upgrade to the H8 sized battery,it's a more common battery and quite often you'll find it for less money then an H7.
 
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I wouldn't worry about the trucks charging system keeping an AGM battery charged,and i'd upgrade to the H8 sized battery,it's a more common battery and quite often you'll find it for less money then an H7.
So what’s different between that H8 you’re talking about and the H7 and why would I wanna go with that battery instead?
 

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So what’s different between that H8 you’re talking about and the H7 and why would I wanna go with that battery instead?
It's a physically bigger battery,and in the world of batteries generally bigger is better,it'll have more capacity.Look for the battery that has the most cranking amps output and reserve minutes
 

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Batteries are not all the same

I look for the things below
Cheap batteries hardly ever have the CA , RC , or Ah posted
Why they Omit it, is a puzzle to me

Group Size 24F ·
Car and Truck Battery Group Size : This refers to the battery size that will best fit the physical dimensions, terminal locations and type required for your vehicle.

Cold Cranking Amps (CCA) 750 ·
Cold Cranking Amps (CCA) measure a battery's ability to start an engine in cold climates. CCA tells you how many amps a 12-volt battery may support for 30 seconds at -17.8 degrees Celsius before the voltage drops to at least 7.2 volts per cell.

Cranking Amps (CA) 940 ·
“Cranking Amps” or “CA” refers to the number of amperes a new lead-acid battery at 32 degrees F (0 degrees C) can deliver for 30 seconds and maintain at least 1.2 volts per cell (7.2 volts for a 12 volt battery). To simplify, Cranking Amps determines how much power you have to start your car in most average climates.

(RC) Min @ 25 Amp 120.0 minutes ·
A battery's reserve capacity (RC) rating is the number of minutes a fully charged battery can supply 25 amps of power without dropping below a specific voltage. RC is measured at 80°F (26.6°C).


Amp Hours (Ah) 88.
A battery's amp hour (Ah) rating is a measure of how much current a battery can supply over a period of time. It's a key factor in determining how long a battery will last before needing to be recharged.
 
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It's a physically bigger battery,and in the world of batteries generally bigger is better,it'll have more capacity.Look for the battery that has the most cranking amps output and reserve minutes
Well, I’d say that Odyssey and especially that X2 Power would be plenty, wouldn’t they? I’ve never seen a battery that had over a 1000 cranking amps before and the X2 has 1,030.
 

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