2018 Limited 1500 battery issues.

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Well, I’d say that Odyssey and especially that X2 Power would be plenty, wouldn’t they? I’ve never seen a battery that had over a 1000 cranking amps before and the X2 has 1,030.
The AGM in my truck has well over that,but it also weighes 64lbs,and i'm not sure i'd try and fit it into the plastic battery box under the hood,as it might just end up sitting on the front tire if you hit a good sized pothole,lol.

  • 2150 Pulse crank amps, 1370 marine crank amps, 103 amp hours, 220 minute reserve capacity

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The marine cranking ampere (MCA) rating of a battery is very similar to the CCA rating; the only difference is that while the CCA is measured at a temperature of 0°F, the MCA is measured at 0°C. All other requirements are the same — the ampere draw is for 30 seconds and the end of discharge voltage in both cases is 1.20 volts per cell. or 7.2 volts for the whole battery.

Unlike CCA the pulse cranking ampere (PCA) rating does not have an “official” definition; however, it is believed that for true engine start purposes a 30 second discharge is unrealistic. With that in mind, the PCA is a very short duration (typically about 3 seconds) at a high rate of discharge.
 
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The AGM in my truck has well over that,but it also weighes 64lbs,and i'm not sure i'd try and fit it into the plastic battery box under the hood,as it might just end up sitting on the front tire if you hit a good sized pothole,lol.

  • 2150 Pulse crank amps, 1370 marine crank amps, 103 amp hours, 220 minute reserve capacity

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The marine cranking ampere (MCA) rating of a battery is very similar to the CCA rating; the only difference is that while the CCA is measured at a temperature of 0°F, the MCA is measured at 0°C. All other requirements are the same — the ampere draw is for 30 seconds and the end of discharge voltage in both cases is 1.20 volts per cell. or 7.2 volts for the whole battery.

Unlike CCA the pulse cranking ampere (PCA) rating does not have an “official” definition; however, it is believed that for true engine start purposes a 30 second discharge is unrealistic. With that in mind, the PCA is a very short duration (typically about 3 seconds) at a high rate of discharge.
Good God….lol.

But don’t you use that for racing applications? I’d hate to think I’d need a battery that powerful.
 

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Good God….lol.

But don’t you use that for racing applications? I’d hate to think I’d need a battery that powerful.
I got the biggest/baddest battery i could find that'd fit my aftermarket battery box,so i could run the cooling fan between rounds,and also to help with traction,lol. My 14's charging system has never had any issues with keeping it charged,and my little regular cab shortbox only has the 180 amp alternator. I added a cigar outlet to the box and the battery will run the engines cooling fan and a 12v air compressor at the same time with no issues,and i've ran the compressor and fan long enough to not only pump up the trucks tires,but also the tires on a few other cars when i'm at the track.So far i've never been able to draw it down to the point where the starters even slow. Long before there was a Tazor for the trucks,i modded a cheap relay that i pop in place of the factory relay to run the cooling fan.Modded the way it is,i can drive the truck and never have a check engine light,which you'll get if you just jump the terminals in the fuse box.
 

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Not to change the subject but if extreme heat is not good for a battery and being that I live in southern Oklahoma where we have a whole lot more extreme heat than we do extreme cold, do I really need that wool-looking “blanket” they put over my battery at the factory? I mean hell, when I lived in Colorado for 20+ years about 12 years ago, we had a lot more colder weather than this and I don’t ever recall having a battery problem from I guess a naked battery- but then again, I guess, didn’t they make better batteries back then?
 

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Not to change the subject but if extreme heat is not good for a battery and being that I live in southern Oklahoma where we have a whole lot more extreme heat than we do extreme cold, do I really need that wool-looking “blanket” they put over my battery at the factory? I mean hell, when I lived in Colorado for 20+ years about 12 years ago, we had a lot more colder weather than this and I don’t ever recall having a battery problem from I guess a naked battery- but then again, I guess, didn’t they make better batteries back then?
Actually the blankets purpose is to help insulate the battery from hot underhood temps,more then it's for keeping the battery warm on a cold night. You'll shorten the batteries life if you remove it, if you live where it gets hot
 
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Actually the blankets purpose is to help insulate the battery from hot underhood temps,more then it's for keeping the battery warm on a cold night. You'll shorten the batteries life if you remove it, if you live where it gets hot
Hmm…..
 

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This is why you will find that some are encased in an insulated jacket or plastic housing. This insulation allows it to go through its normal temperature changes slowly and can extend overall battery life.

One of the big mistakes that the do-it-yourself and professional mechanics will make is when they replace a car battery they will discard this insulated cover. This will also shorten the life span of the replacement battery. The car maker put this cover on for a reason so don’t forget to reinstall it.
 

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Well, I’d say that Odyssey and especially that X2 Power would be plenty, wouldn’t they? I’ve never seen a battery that had over a 1000 cranking amps before and the X2 has 1,030.
Starting a RAM or a M1A1 Tank, lol.
 
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Every time i read this,i think of Steve Dulich and Wiley Stevens when they were road tripping the Bang Shifting Cougar :Big Laugh:
Yes, I haven’t seen that one but that one where Rowdy Roddy Piper says that is one of all-time favorite movies… Lol.

I’m glad they incorporated it in the latest Transformers movie but I sure wish they would’ve said the whole quote and not just part of it.
 

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Rick lives in Nanook-land, where big batteries rule.

We were just @ -21 F but would have been much colder if we'd had some snow. If you need to start in this kind of cold, having sat out at work or stores, big batteries matter.

Down south, not so much. Heat kills them so I'd probably just use a flooded cell and buy new every 3 years. Up here in the cold they last 4-5 years. Cold preserves them, unless you leave a flooded sit too long and it freezes and cracks. Cold also slows the chemical reaction way down which is why you need bigger to overcome that.
 
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Rick lives in Nanook-land, where big batteries rule.

We were just @ -21 F but would have been much colder if we'd had some snow. If you need to start in this kind of cold, having sat out at work or stores, big batteries matter.

Down south, not so much. Heat kills them so I'd probably just use a flooded cell and buy new every 3 years. Up here in the cold they last 4-5 years. Cold preserves them, unless you leave a flooded sit too long and it freezes and cracks. Cold also slows the chemical reaction way down which is why you need bigger to overcome that.
was gonna ask what was harder on a battery more, if it was the heat cold
I’ve been meaning to ask what was harder on a battery if it was the extreme cold or extreme heat, I just haven’t got around to asking it until now but from what it sounds like to me, unless you’re in really really cold temperatures that are far below the zero mark that I’d probably have to worry more about heat killing my battery than these every-once-in-a-while 25° to 15° cold snaps, correct?

That’s the only thing I can think of(aside from batteries just not being what they used to) when you would get a lot more lifetime out of a battery back when I lived in Colorado as opposed to living down here where it pretty much stays hot all the time in the summer months.

But given my driving characteristics as I’ve talked about and being that I do have a lot more of an issue with extreme heat and I do extreme cold, would I really just be better off to get another plain lead acid battery and just accept it that I may have to change it every three years? But, even though I can get a Walmart AGM or even a Duracell AGM for less than what I paid for that Oreilleys battery, should I still be able to go the AGM route to get a little bit better performance, considering that I do have a sound system in this truck? I mean, I could go to Sam’s Club right now and for about $200, I could get a Duracell AGM that’s sporting 920CA/800CCA and for about $179, I can get an EverStart Platinum AGM that’s sporting 1000CA/850CCA.
 

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Hard in what way?

Hard on longevity = heat

Hard on performance = cold

There is no single criteria per extreme temperature. That's real world physics, not simpleton punditry.
 
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Hard in what way?

Hard on longevity = heat

Hard on performance = cold

There is no single criteria per extreme temperature. That's real world physics, not simpleton punditry.
Longevity, man.

Even while having a sound system, the only performance issue that I’ve had with either the factory battery or that O’Reilly’s battery is even with LED 9005s in my headlights, when I crank the bass up, my system still dims the headlights a little but again, I’ve never really had any problem getting the truck started except for when my factory battery crapped out at about three years and with my current battery acting the way it does under certain circumstances which, if I don’t do that, I don’t have a problem with it. And just for grins and giggles, I went out there in the driveway last night just to see what my battery voltage was and it was at 12.34 volts. I don’t remember what the starting voltage is when I put that battery in there, but isn’t that still considered as OK?
 

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Longevity, man.

Even while having a sound system, the only performance issue that I’ve had with either the factory battery or that O’Reilly’s battery is even with LED 9005s in my headlights, when I crank the bass up, my system still dims the headlights a little but again, I’ve never really had any problem getting the truck started except for when my factory battery crapped out at about three years and with my current battery acting the way it does under certain circumstances which, if I don’t do that, I don’t have a problem with it. And just for grins and giggles, I went out there in the driveway last night just to see what my battery voltage was and it was at 12.34 volts. I don’t remember what the starting voltage is when I put that battery in there, but isn’t that still considered as OK?
12.34 is about 70%. Look for the battery that gives you the longest "replacement" warrenty,as alot of them seem to be pro-rated after about a year or 2 these days.

 
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12.34 is about 70%. Look for the battery that gives you the longest "replacement" warrenty,as alot of them seem to be pro-rated after about a year or 2 these days.

Well then I guess in that case, it would be the Walmart AGM that’s a little bit cheaper because it’s got a four year free replacement. The Sam’s Duracell only has a three year.
 

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Well then I guess in that case, it would be the Walmart AGM that’s a little bit cheaper because it’s got a four year free replacement. The Sam’s Duracell only has a three year.
Pull the spacer in the battery box,then you can use a H8 or Group 49 battery,and have a bit more battery then the H7/94R battery.It might help with your sound system/dimming light issue a bit to. I'd also re-install the battery blanket if possible
 
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Pull the spacer in the battery box,then you can use a H8 or Group 49 battery,and have a bit more battery then the H7/94R battery.It might help with your sound system/dimming light issue a bit to. I'd also re-install the battery blanket if possible
Well, I found that H8 you were talking about on Walmart’s app for the exact same price as the H7 that has 900 cold cranking amps and 150 minutes I guess of reserve. Not sure what the warmer cranking amps is because it doesn’t say.

As far as battery size comparisons, the H7 is 12&7/16’s long, 7&1/2 tall and 6&15/16’s wide whereas the H8 has the same width and height but 13&15/16’s long.
 

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Well, I found that H8 you were talking about on Walmart’s app for the exact same price as the H7 that has 900 cold cranking amps and 150 minutes I guess of reserve. Not sure what the warmer cranking amps is because it doesn’t say.

As far as battery size comparisons, the H7 is 12&7/16’s long, 7&1/2 tall and 6&15/16’s wide whereas the H8 has the same width and height but 13&15/16’s long.
That extra 1.5" means alot when the batteries supplying a load,lol
 

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