2500 payload ranges

[Tulecreeper]

No it is not real. My gas engine Laramie has a payload of 2938. I have seen a truck on a dea.er lot that was optioned identically to mine except it had the CTD. It had a payload of 2108. The only Ram 2500 with a payload of 3500 or higher is a Tracesman gas engine truck..probably a single cab or a 2WD. Even in a Chevy 2500 you would have to go with a gas engine to get a 3500# payload, though at an auto show I did see a Silverado 2500 crew cab high country diesel with a 3125 sticker....but no way close to that on a Ram.

My advice is that if you are towing heavy enough to need a diesel and you want a Ram, get the 3500.

Yep...or not, if you order specifically for cargo and towing capacity.

 

[dhay13]

Put 90k miles on anything in 2 years and the value is going to plummet.

True but not as much as the gasser. The CTD with similar miles were advertised for about $55,000 where the gassers with that many miles were around $40,000. We weighed the pros and cons of him getting the CTD and for the miles the CTD was worth it. Not by a bunch but it was worth it.

 

[Choupique]

Yep...or not, if you order specifically for cargo and towing capacity.

What's the details on that truck?

 

[Tulecreeper]

What's the details on that truck?

It's in my signature.

 

[Ratman6161]

True but not as much as the gasser. The CTD with similar miles were advertised for about $55,000 where the gassers with that many miles were around $40,000. We weighed the pros and cons of him getting the CTD and for the miles the CTD was worth it. Not by a bunch but it was worth it.

I'm not really seeing that as far as resale value. I tend to ignore "advertised" prices because everybody selling a decent used vehical believes whatever they have is gold. And dealers will often advertise high so they can then tell you you are getting a "discount" when they sell it to you for the real value. Just for grins, I went to kbb.com and got values for two hypothetical trucks. I used KBB because that represents an average actual selling price in my area. Both were 2018 2500 Laramie's with 60,000 miles and with no options selected other than color and engine choice. So otherwise identical other than gas vs diesel. On a private party sale, the top end of the range was 9,852 higher on the diesel than on the 6.4 gas. On trade in, the diesel was 6,024. So on the private party sale, thats right about what the difference is on a new truck and you actually lose a bit on a trade in. Now, if you assume top dollar for the diesel and lowest end for the gas (not likely) they are 14K apart on private party sale 12K apart on trade in...but you have to make a pretty huge assumption (top end for one and low end for the other) to get those numbers. Then, don't forget when you bought the truck new, you probably financed in the $9650(??) for the diesel engine so you would have some extra interest there.

Another factor is that for trucks purchased new today, no one really knows how fuel prices, Govt regulations, market conditions etc will influence used prices five years from now. In 2021 for example, I traded in to a GMC dealer a 2019 GMC Canyon that I had bought used from that same dealer. They actually bought it back from me for more than I paid them for it to begin with...but doing a similar trade today, that just wouldn't happen.. You just never know and things like that are not predictable. Personally, I just bought the truck that seems to meet my needs and desires the best, and resale is what it is. Also, I probably would not buy a used diesel unless there were maintenance records telling me exactly what had or hadn't been done to it.

 

[dhay13]

I'm not really seeing that as far as resale value. I tend to ignore "advertised" prices because everybody selling a decent used vehical believes whatever they have is gold. And dealers will often advertise high so they can then tell you you are getting a "discount" when they sell it to you for the real value. Just for grins, I went to kbb.com and got values for two hypothetical trucks. I used KBB because that represents an average actual selling price in my area. Both were 2018 2500 Laramie's with 60,000 miles and with no options selected other than color and engine choice. So otherwise identical other than gas vs diesel. On a private party sale, the top end of the range was 9,852 higher on the diesel than on the 6.4 gas. On trade in, the diesel was 6,024. So on the private party sale, thats right about what the difference is on a new truck and you actually lose a bit on a trade in. Now, if you assume top dollar for the diesel and lowest end for the gas (not likely) they are 14K apart on private party sale 12K apart on trade in...but you have to make a pretty huge assumption (top end for one and low end for the other) to get those numbers. Then, don't forget when you bought the truck new, you probably financed in the $9650(??) for the diesel engine so you would have some extra interest there.

Another factor is that for trucks purchased new today, no one really knows how fuel prices, Govt regulations, market conditions etc will influence used prices five years from now. In 2021 for example, I traded in to a GMC dealer a 2019 GMC Canyon that I had bought used from that same dealer. They actually bought it back from me for more than I paid them for it to begin with...but doing a similar trade today, that just wouldn't happen.. You just never know and things like that are not predictable. Personally, I just bought the truck that seems to meet my needs and desires the best, and resale is what it is. Also, I probably would not buy a used diesel unless there were maintenance records telling me exactly what had or hadn't been done to it.

Agreed you can't compare apples to oranges. This was 2 years ago and kbb on his truck was $35,000 with 95,000 miles on it. He got $29,000 on trade on a brand new 2021 2500 CTD Night Edition with a $68,000 sticker. When looking at similar CTD's with around $95,000 they were advertised at $55,000ish. Without actually going though with the purchase it's hard to get concrete numbers. This was also when lots were empty and finding anything was a shot in the dark. He went to a pretty large local dealer and they had 2 trucks on their lot. They only had 9 new vehicles where the sales guy said they normally had 300 so that likely played a role. Either way...not many people want a 2500 gasser with 95,000 miles but most wouldn't bat an eye at buying a 95,000 mile CTD

 

[jejb]

I'm not really seeing that as far as resale value. I tend to ignore "advertised" prices because everybody selling a decent used vehical believes whatever they have is gold. And dealers will often advertise high so they can then tell you you are getting a "discount" when they sell it to you for the real value. Just for grins, I went to kbb.com and got values for two hypothetical trucks. I used KBB because that represents an average actual selling price in my area. Both were 2018 2500 Laramie's with 60,000 miles and with no options selected other than color and engine choice. So otherwise identical other than gas vs diesel. On a private party sale, the top end of the range was 9,852 higher on the diesel than on the 6.4 gas. On trade in, the diesel was 6,024. So on the private party sale, thats right about what the difference is on a new truck and you actually lose a bit on a trade in. Now, if you assume top dollar for the diesel and lowest end for the gas (not likely) they are 14K apart on private party sale 12K apart on trade in...but you have to make a pretty huge assumption (top end for one and low end for the other) to get those numbers. Then, don't forget when you bought the truck new, you probably financed in the $9650(??) for the diesel engine so you would have some extra interest there.

In 2018, the CTD option was $8700. Go back and figure out, as a percentage, how much better the CTD held its value compared to the rest of the truck. I've found over the years that diesel engines almost always return close to 100% of the option price when sold/traded in.

I'm not making the argument that the diesel is always the way to go. It's not. But it does hold its value better than the rest of the truck.